soompi forums: Dental School Thread - soompi forums

Jump to content

  • (18 Pages)
  • +
  • « First
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • Last »

Dental School Thread Anyone who is in dental or thinking about it!

#101 User is offline   KimcheeMace 

  • Doc Uisah sunsengnim
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 46
  • Joined: 16-June 08

Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (Jay Chou @ Dec 22 2007, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so i see all these medical/law/nursing threads.....how come no one ever made a thread about dental school?
i bet there are dental school students here, or people who are interested in going into this field.
this thread is for general discussion about anything related to dentistry.....and hopefully can help potential applicants answer any questions.
let's help promote dentistry!! rolleyes.gif

btw, i myself is a 2nd year dental school student =)





Hell yeah! Count me you "fellow colleague!" Which dental school you attending?
0

#102 User is offline   KimcheeMace 

  • Doc Uisah sunsengnim
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 46
  • Joined: 16-June 08

Posted 16 June 2008 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE (tinasarangg @ Jan 10 2008, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a second year, undergrad pre-dent too!
Yayy I'm glad we finally got our own thread.

I just shadowed two oral surgeons over break, and they were telling me dentistry is the best field to get into, especially if you want a private practice. It's worth it if you love what you're doing. The first oral surgeon told me he paid off his student loans and his practice within the first five years of his work, and the past 7 has been profit (he owns a practice in Dupont Circle, Washington D.C.).


Amen!! I'm a current dental student just finished my 1st year.


QUOTE
The second oral surgeon told me that the only this that is risky in this field is malpractice. He said that dentist have the most stressful careers because they get lawsuits left and right.


Is he talking about oral surgeons or regular general practicing dentists? Because I hardly hear of any lawsuits for general dentists. But for oral surgeons, that's a different ball park. Since they're specialists, they are held to higher standards.


QUOTE
littoqtxlinda, before you switch career paths you should REALLY consider shadowing a dentist, because I was thinking about going to med-school to study oncology, but after I shadowed, I know FOR SURE this is what I want to do smile.gif

Congrats Jay Chou for getting into dental school! Out of curiousity how well did you do on your DAT's? And...Organic Chem? I got a C+ in O Chem I and I'm wondering if I should retake the course unsure.gif


Medical school SUX! My friend is currently a med school student and he has CRAZY rotation schedules. He told me that he has rotations on Saturday and even Sunday mornings at 7AM. That's f--king crazy!

But in dental school, you never go to school on weekends. Except during 2nd year (hell year!) when you have to do lab work, and work on dentures. That's time consuming and what makes dentistry stressful.

But when you're practicing, you hardly do the lab work. The dentists pretty much sends out the work to be done at local dental labs (i.e. waxing of the tooth to make a crown).

0

#103 User is offline   lenda 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 567
  • Joined: 04-October 05

Posted 17 June 2008 - 05:48 PM

Does anyone's dental school offer a Lab Tech program? I go to LSU's dental school and I'm going into my 2nd year as a lab tech student, leaving me with another year until I graduate with a Bachelors. I totally love it, and I'm really happy that I switched to this instead of hygiene. I was also in Graphic Design before switching into the dental field.

The only thing I don't like making is dentures. Gosh they're so awful...
0

#104 User is offline   SophiaSan 

  • Autobots
  • Icon
  • Group: Friends of Soompi
  • Posts: 4,599
  • Joined: 18-February 06

Posted 29 June 2008 - 01:33 AM

hello! hahaha im fresh out of high school
and i'm planning to go into orthodontics
i know i have to do pre-dentistry first.
so what is that like? a series of courses like chem, psy, and bio right?
hard?
biggrin.gif
0

#105 User is offline   atalamarche10 

  • Member
  • Icon
  • Group: Friends of Soompi
  • Posts: 1,363
  • Joined: 04-October 05

Posted 16 July 2008 - 06:24 PM

^you're still young..
just try to do your best in those courses..and you can decide to apply to dental school from there

0

#106 User is offline   hellohello01 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: 20-July 08

Posted 20 July 2008 - 12:59 AM

wow this is a cool forum :]

I actually have a question. If my lower div science gpa is a lot lower than my upper div science gpa will it look bad on applications? My school is known to have really hard lower div weeder classes (mainly 2nd semester of bio and physics) but I heard upper divs get a lot easier. I'm worried because I'm studying really hard for my 2nd semester bio lab and its a killer. My professor told me that 40% of the class usually fail each semester. We have 2 quizzes each week and the averages are 1.5 out of 5 points. So my second question is, will dental schools know that this bio class is really hard and take that into consideration when looking at my grade?
0

#107 User is offline   Krnuckfan 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 56
  • Joined: 05-January 08

Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:01 AM

^^
No, they will not consider that at all.
All they look at is the end GPA.
0

#108 User is offline   KimcheeMace 

  • Doc Uisah sunsengnim
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 46
  • Joined: 16-June 08

Posted 03 August 2008 - 09:17 AM

Take some basket weaving courses (meaning easy courses) to get some A-grades. You want to boost your GPA if they are low.

AADSAS calculates your science, non-science and overall GPA. They even get nit-picky and calculated undergrad and grad school GPAs.

Also do well on your DAT. If you don't do well the first time, take it again. But make sure you do a lot better the 2nd time around.

Good luck.
0

#109 User is offline   kinetic 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 107
  • Joined: 11-August 08

Posted 11 August 2008 - 10:59 PM

Heheh, it is nice to see dental students/applicants have their own thread.

I'm a second year dental student right now. If there's anything I can help you guys with, feel free to ask.

If you're going to dschool... best advice I can give you is that dschool is only as stressful as you make it to be.


0

#110 User is offline   unrealsilver 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1
  • Joined: 15-August 08

Posted 15 August 2008 - 09:12 AM

what are the charecteristics a dentist need?
For a dental student, does he/she need to have good hand skills?
what other skills does a dental student need?


0

#111 User is offline   Jay Chou 

  • K歌之王...是我
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,792
  • Joined: 04-October 05

Posted 16 August 2008 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE (kinetic @ Aug 12 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heheh, it is nice to see dental students/applicants have their own thread.

I'm a second year dental student right now. If there's anything I can help you guys with, feel free to ask.

If you're going to dschool... best advice I can give you is that dschool is only as stressful as you make it to be.

for dental schools in US, when do you start clinical training on real patients? 2nd year or 3rd year?
do you have to call up patients on your own?
there's like a patient pool where you get patients right?

for any dental students here, have you run into any difficult experiences when looking at patients?
0

#112 User is offline   kinetic 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 107
  • Joined: 11-August 08

Posted 20 August 2008 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (unrealsilver @ Aug 15 2008, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what are the charecteristics a dentist need?
For a dental student, does he/she need to have good hand skills?
what other skills does a dental student need?


Well... there are no definite characteristics that a dentist needs (unless you want to be successful). Success is measured in different ways. You can want to be the best clinician, businessman, etc... For example, you can be the best clinician in the world, produce great work, be a perfectionist, but if you're going to take forever on a procedure, you will make virtually no money and live on the streets (exaggerated)

A dental student does not need to have good handskills. He or she will develop that eventually.I think critical thinking is more important. The ability to be a more results oriented individual, rather than being set on being procedure-based. Personally, I think that a dental student doesn't need much skills (besides passing courses) when entering and the ability to keep their eye on the prize (and not get caught up in the unnecessary bureaucracies of dental school). There's the "real world" way of doing things and there's the dental school way. The dental school way is too bureaucratic and not realistic.

What skills do I value? The ability to cram and free up much of my time (easy 8-9 weeks, then cram time). Something overlooked a lot is salesmanship. A dentist needs to be a good salesman for your patient to accept your treatment plan. One more thing previously discussed is being able to look at the big picture and remaining results-oriented.


---------------------

for dental schools in US, when do you start clinical training on real patients? 2nd year or 3rd year?
do you have to call up patients on your own?
there's like a patient pool where you get patients right?

for any dental students here, have you run into any difficult experiences when looking at patients?

Clinical training starts in your second and third year. It all depends which school you go to. Calling up patients and scheduling depends on the school as well. All three of your questions are school dependent.

I have not run in any difficult experiences looking at patient(s) mouths. When you look at the patient's mouth, you take more of an authoritative figure where you have control of your domain. Some people are too shy or afraid (makes the procedure longer). You'll know when you are hurting the patient, so don't worry about that. Clinical training is a good way to work on your salesmanship abilities =)

Looking for patients depends on what you need to graduate.
0

#113 User is offline   nelly 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 986
  • Joined: 12-July 06

Posted 20 August 2008 - 11:39 PM

Hi, I just recently changed my major into pre-dental. I go to a community college since I don't have the money to go to those big universities out there. So does it matter if you go to a community college or not even if you have high gpa and grades?


0

#114 User is offline   Jay Chou 

  • K歌之王...是我
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,792
  • Joined: 04-October 05

Posted 22 August 2008 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE (kinetic @ Aug 21 2008, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's the "real world" way of doing things and there's the dental school way. The dental school way is too bureaucratic and not realistic.

how different is the "real world" way of doing things and the "dental school" way of doing things?
any examples?

actually in our dental school, some tutors really encourage us to spend more time teaching OHI to our patients. but in the real world that wouldn't apply right? there doesn't seem to be enough time for that in the real world.
and the way of doing endodontics is probably different as well in the real world compared to dental school. our dental school teaches us "lateral condensation" techniques only, and doing instrumentation with hand instruments. i would guess in the real world, dentists are using motor-driven instruments and filling canals with one big gutta percha (or some other things) instead of the lousy "lateral condensation" technique.


0

#115 User is offline   kinetic 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 107
  • Joined: 11-August 08

Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:14 AM

Well, they are not mutually exclusive and not always different. I believe that it is more of a mindset and framework of thinking. I am an individual who is very results oriented, and it does not matter how I get the result; On the clinic floor, they usually want you to do it one way, which may not necessary be the most efficient way.

I could be giving OHI's to all my future patients... but is it cost effective? Can I delegate it to other staff? or... why should we use this material, when the relatively higher cost may not justify the marginal benefit compared to other alternatives.

When I look at any procedure or what has to be done, it's very important to not just assess the potential outcomes, but also the cost, efficiency, liabilities, and other factors that may not necessarily concern us in clinic. Although we may or may not be able to get away with it for now, it is important not to forget the world outside of dental school.
0

#116 User is offline   Krnuckfan 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 56
  • Joined: 05-January 08

Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:38 AM

Are any of you guys worried about the debt that you are accumulating? The school I want to go to, the tuition is 50k a year, so 200k for 4 years of dental school + 50k from undergrad comes out to like 250k in loans that you have to pay off when you graduate.

Fresh grads usually work as an associate and make around 100k, but with taxes and living expenses, how much of that 100k can realistically go into paying off your loan? (my guess is like 30k). So 30k a year, that'll take like 10 years to pay off your 250k loan (interest).

If you want to start your practice, that's another 500-750k so you're looking at paying off a million dollars.

That's the only thing holding my off from deciding 100% to go into dentistry. You work your ass off during undergrad and dental school, and when you come out there's this massive weight dragging you down.
0

#117 User is offline   kinetic 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 107
  • Joined: 11-August 08

Posted 22 August 2008 - 04:02 PM

I hear you... Dentistry is an expensive investment. I am sure if dentistry is NOT the only business I will be going into, however, 250k can be amortized over 30 years (or look into plans that allow you to pay less in the beginning). This will allow you to accumulate more wealth/capital to invest. Student loan interest is tax deductible, there are methods of potentially being able to write off 100% of the debt (still researching its legality, and probably don't want to say anything)

Starting a practice doesn't have to cost 500-750k, that's an exaggeration. The latest and greatest equipment isn't always in your best interest. The only people you are making rich are the dental suppliers/equipment manufacturers if you believe you need every little hi-tech gadget.

Debt is only a hassle when it starts to impede cash flow for reinvestment, limiting long term growth. If you have nothing better to do with your money, by all means, pay off your debt. If you do, then use the money for that. You could possibly get away with extending your student loans till the day you die and prevent collections against your estate.

100k - State Income Tax - Federal Income Tax - Payroll Taxes - Living Expenses - Insurance (if applicable) - Property Taxes (if you own land)...

Don't expect much if you go the associate route. That's why it's important to be focused on your speed while in dental school. If you're slow, you're going to be broke.




0

#118 User is offline   lovebum4life 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 362
  • Joined: 29-April 07

Posted 26 August 2008 - 11:01 AM

Question do you have to take or be interested in Chemistry to follow in a dentistry career path..I'm interested in Dentistry but I hate Chem..someone told me the two go hand in hand sad.gif
0

#119 User is offline   Jay Chou 

  • K歌之王...是我
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,792
  • Joined: 04-October 05

Posted 26 August 2008 - 01:47 PM

QUOTE (lovebum4life @ Aug 27 2008, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question do you have to take or be interested in Chemistry to follow in a dentistry career path..I'm interested in Dentistry but I hate Chem..someone told me the two go hand in hand sad.gif

nope....there's not much relation between chemistry and dentistry
you don't even learn chemistry in dental school.....even when you're taking basic sciences the first few years.
you learn mostly anatomy, histology, microbiology, physiology, that kind of stuff.
then afterwards it's more clinically based.

QUOTE (kinetic @ Aug 23 2008, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hear you... Dentistry is an expensive investment. I am sure if dentistry is NOT the only business I will be going into, however, 250k can be amortized over 30 years (or look into plans that allow you to pay less in the beginning). This will allow you to accumulate more wealth/capital to invest. Student loan interest is tax deductible, there are methods of potentially being able to write off 100% of the debt (still researching its legality, and probably don't want to say anything)

Starting a practice doesn't have to cost 500-750k, that's an exaggeration. The latest and greatest equipment isn't always in your best interest. The only people you are making rich are the dental suppliers/equipment manufacturers if you believe you need every little hi-tech gadget.

Debt is only a hassle when it starts to impede cash flow for reinvestment, limiting long term growth. If you have nothing better to do with your money, by all means, pay off your debt. If you do, then use the money for that. You could possibly get away with extending your student loans till the day you die and prevent collections against your estate.

100k - State Income Tax - Federal Income Tax - Payroll Taxes - Living Expenses - Insurance (if applicable) - Property Taxes (if you own land)...

Don't expect much if you go the associate route. That's why it's important to be focused on your speed while in dental school. If you're slow, you're going to be broke.

education is always the best investment

0

#120 User is offline   kinetic 

  • Member
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 107
  • Joined: 11-August 08

Posted 26 August 2008 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (lovebum4life @ Aug 26 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question do you have to take or be interested in Chemistry to follow in a dentistry career path..I'm interested in Dentistry but I hate Chem..someone told me the two go hand in hand sad.gif


Chemistry helps in understanding dental materials and improvising certain things such as making casts (if I need to speed it up), understanding how to work with materials better (instead of what they tell you is the "best way", and so on... it helps, but biochem will probably help u more.


The post regarding education being the best investment... It's a good and relatively safe long term investment, but not always the best investment and you also need to make comparisons between professions (i.e you can get a ph.d in asian studies, but what will you do with that and will you even make money. Business doesn't really require a degree but it's a risky endeavor
0

Share this topic:


  • (18 Pages)
  • +
  • « First
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • Last »

2 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users