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#1 User is offline   chiluvskk 

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 07:58 PM

I'll be a freshman in college next year smile.gif and i just want to know how the science classes are, since i'm going pre-med.

how hard compared to high school science?
advice on studying, taking notes? (especially since i'm not so good in science T_T)

and any other advice and tips please

thank you !!! blush.gif

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Posted 29 December 2007 - 02:12 PM

Entry level science classes like Bio 101 or something are easy if you took AP in high school. If you didn't, you might have a harder time because it is more fast paced then what you are probably used to but its not impossible.

The higher level science classes most everyone finds difficult. But also, not impossible to make an A.

Just make sure you read and understand everything, using whatever method works for you. I won't mention my techniques because they are a bit complicated and unorthodox and will probably leave you confused. laugh.gif But I can't stress it enough. There is no time to play catch up in college, you will be left behind if you slack.
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Posted 29 December 2007 - 02:53 PM

Pretty much if you want high marks you HAVE to try much harder than you did in high school. You realize that soon you need to create a pattern of studying in order to keep up with the workload. In university they heavily focus on concepts, so make sure you understand the concept from many different angles, and if you don't go and ask your prof or a TA. Study groups also help lots!
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Posted 29 December 2007 - 03:49 PM

Studying in college is totally different from high school. I just think science classes in college is much more difficult so just go to office hours a lot and ask questions.

Bis 101 is in my opinion the easiest of the upper division science classes and after tat the difficulty just gets higher and higher so get tutoring and help right from the start. You might think you know the materials from the start but just get a head start before the materials gets too complicated.
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Posted 29 December 2007 - 04:22 PM

I agree with everyone else Science classes are hard. It is hard to get a good grade since the classes are graded on a curve, you basically need to compete with your fellow classmates. In upper level sciences classes, it is even harder to get a good grade since your competing with all the smart, hard working people since because all stupid, lazy people don't even make it that far.
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Posted 29 December 2007 - 05:52 PM

that's not true ^
some people do the bare minimum to get by, so they do end up in your upper div classes...it's not hard at all at my school to pass the lower div classes BECAUSE of the generous curves some teacher give. i've noticed my science classes tend to have the big curves that help me a lot..while my non science ones, curves barely exist. i know in organic chem, if you get at least 50% on an exam, you are most likely in at least B standing.

science classes in college are not necessarily harder, at least, the content isn't so bad, it's just a lot more information, which means more memorization, more concepts to grasp...so i guess the only way it's harder is that there's more of it, does that make sense? if i had to give advice, i'd say, keep up with the reading and do homework. regardless if the ratemyprofessors stuff says "oh you don't need to read to get a good grade," if you are planning to go into the medical field, you will need to know that stuff for the mcats anyway, so just READ READ READ. if it's your major, put like an hour or two at LEAST into reading/hw every night so you won't fall behind. i usually just read and skip lecture and go to office hours if i don't get something...lol.....oh yeah! and make use of office hours...who knows? you might need the professor to write you a letter of rec in the future.
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Posted 29 December 2007 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE (THEmerryJANE @ Dec 29 2007, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Entry level science classes like Bio 101 or something are easy if you took AP in high school. If you didn't, you might have a harder time because it is more fast paced then what you are probably used to but its not impossible.

The higher level science classes most everyone finds difficult. But also, not impossible to make an A.

Just make sure you read and understand everything, using whatever method works for you. I won't mention my techniques because they are a bit complicated and unorthodox and will probably leave you confused. laugh.gif But I can't stress it enough. There is no time to play catch up in college, you will be left behind if you slack.


sorry... this is only true for SOME people. for the most part, lower division classes are harder for almost everyone. Upper div courses are easier to manage (though the material is certainly not easier) only because the student learns how to study.


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Posted 30 December 2007 - 08:49 PM

about the curve thing, just depends on schools and which classes
my bio and chem class doesnt curve but physics does..so yeah.

it's not too bad, just keep up with notes nd the reading so u dont have to cram at once.

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Posted 30 December 2007 - 09:10 PM

All my science classes have been super easy but it really depends on your professor, whether they curve your grade etc. I'm not good at science but I got an A in both classes (astronomy and zoology) because I had good professors. These were intro level to fill gen ed reqs so yeah, not challenging at all.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:26 AM

Depends on what science classes you take and what you're good at (and occasionally the professor/school you go to).

It is different compared to High School. Don't expect getting A's easily like in High School. It's a bit more difficult to get high grades unless you put in a lot of hours of studying/work. The speed at which you learn and the amount of information you need to retain is a bit overwhelming at first but it's all manageable biggrin.gif.

The core classes are the most difficult imo; mostly because they are weeder classes. This would be like Biology, General Chemistry, Physics etc..

The introduction classes are easier =).
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 02:43 PM

Professors usually will do curves in most science classes like Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics, and Biology; but that depends on the professor or the department. Also, from my experience, most teachers can't teach well. They know the material very well, but they just can't teach it. So, always ask your professors questions if you have any. Also, expect to study the material at least once a day.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (DKYang @ Jan 2 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Professors usually will do curves in most science classes like Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics, and Biology; but that depends on the professor or the department. Also, from my experience, most teachers can't teach well. They know the material very well, but they just can't teach it. So, always ask your professors questions if you have any. Also, expect to study the material at least once a day.


I agree most professors can't lecture so you're pretty much on your own in studying but the professors will curve if the whole class does below average, just study on look over the materials everyday and don't cramp the day before the exam, cramping only helps some people but most will not benefit from it
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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:54 PM

Most science classes are curved, so it'd be hard to get a D/F unless you don't study. Because of the curve, you'll realize how many people are smarter/dumber than you too. hahaa.

Anyway, if it's for bio, I suggest reading the material before the lecture and try not to fall behind. Use lecture as a review to clear up things that were confusing when you were reading.

Chem - I suggest doing the problems over and over again so you're used to it. In my case, falling behind wasn't that bad because chem was a lot easier to learn than bio. Oh chem <3

I heard that second year winter quarter is when Bio majors get weeded out (for my school anyway) because of Ochem and Biochem. I think around 450 people changed/are changing majors from the end of last quarter.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 12:29 AM

Based on my first-year university experience taking mostly science and math classes, I would recommend something other than pre-med as an option for you if you aren't strong in science and if you don't especially like it. Even if you are reasonably good at science and math in general, you may find you struggle a bit in first year science courses after high school because the studying and discipline required are greater and at large schools the classes all the pre-med wannabes take are often 'weeder' courses designed to discourage the ones who don't have what it takes. The dropout rates for pre-med hopefuls are relatively high first and second year, and the schools often like it that way because it helps keep class sizes down at the upper levels. (Not to mention that it lets people know that hey, if you can't do decently in a first year bio or chem course even after studying a lot, maybe you're not cut out to be a neurosurgeon after all.)

As for grades in science classes first year, they can vary really widely from school to school, department to department, and course to course, as people have said. The general consensus at my school is that they're difficult in general, but I've heard from other schools that they're easier. Some places don't curve no matter how brutal the tests are, others give stingy curves, some are really generous.

Some people say that you can do just as well skipping lectures and substituting extra reading, but after trying it I've found that unless the lecturer has absolutely nothing useful to contribute, I do better and know my stuff better when I just suck it up and go to class. You get the material presented to you in more different ways, there're sometimes opportunities for questions, and the decent professors give helpful tips or alternate ways of thinking about the material that you don't get from reading the textbook You also don't have the option of "reading" the material when you're actually daydreaming/surfing the internet/texting friends or whatever, and you're less likely to fall behind (falling behind = you're in trouble now). What works best for me is 1) reading the lecture material in the textbook briefly before the lecture, 2) actually going to the lecture and taking notes, 3) reviewing any parts of the notes I took that I think need to be pounded in more to stick later the same day, and 4) rereading the textbook material. Rinse and repeat, then add lots of practice problems. Even if the problem sets aren't ever technically due, DO THE PROBLEM SETS. I started doing way better when I did more of the problems for every class and put more effort into attempting each one on my own and making a note of all my mistakes. Sound time-intensive? It is.
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