[Tom0koChAnx0x91]

So I was wondering today, if any of you could list any real artist / singers (or rappers) from Korea for me?

Mainly because...I want to expand my Korean music to actually talented artist. lol Including ones that can actually sing (or rap something that isn't a rip off from some US undergroud rapper)

I have yet to listen to a Korean rapper (ex. female rappers) that havn't ripped a line or 20 from some underground rapper in the US. Quite amazing they even know who those underground rappers are but I guess they don't have to worry about that darn copy right law. lol and I have yet to listen to a singer in Korea that actually has the talent to take part in creating their own album and not just lend their cute little voice to a pointless song. That includes some of the more talented stronger vocals in Korea...anyone could have a good voice with the right training, not everyone can write a song that is actually able to sell I guess.

..And also because I'm wondering what people here consider an artist when it comes to music.

It Usually includes writing most of your own work, whether you're working with another writer with more experience (or on your own), it means taking some part in actually creating your own album and in some cases putting the music together, if you have a talent in playing something like the piano, guitar..ect. That is being an artist.

But I think most people on here think it includes being cute, that's always a first right. Lol..and having a above average voice, or a sucky one just as long as your cute / hotness makes up for it. oh and of course the dancing that has somehow found it's way into being more important in the MUSIC scene in Korea. And I guess a decent video with all the right clothes. And sometimes just having a cute persona on camera will make you sell. I guess this is why more singers in the US make millions while singers in Korea...sell as much as they're worth. lol

So please don't list sold products like SUJU and DBSG...And any other typical pop products digustingly similar to them if not the exact same concept, because that would just be plain going off topic.

[ginger]

There are some pretty cool indie bands in Seoul--it's a lot of punk and pop-punk, but it's still entertaining. I saw a band called "Galaxy Express" live and they were amazing--like an angrier version of the Hot Hot Heat. Check myspace, because these Korean indie bands all have frequently updated band pages. I would love to see a more folk-indie scene here, though. It seems like everything in Seoul is extreme--extreme pop, extreme hip-hop, and extreme rock. I just want some extreme Bob Dylan!!

-ginger

[edward1849]

Kim Dong Ryul, who recently released his top selling 5th album, wrote his own songs. Others I can think of:

JYP
Lee Seung Chul
Kim Gun Mo

etc. There are many....

[Siriel]

You don't have to write your own song to be an artist. That's the composer/lyricist's job. Celine Dion hardly ever write any of her song but she's one of the most wanted artist in the world. I think fot an artist (as a singer), the most important thing is that he/she should have a natural gifted vocal.

My red.: Big Mama. Their voice is undeniable. Some members also compose/arrange songs. They all take part in the music arrangement process of their album as what instrument should be used and how to use it the most efficent way to boost the song's charm.

[tokio]

SO TRUE IT IS HARD TO FIND ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF ARTIST/MUSICIANS IN THE KPOP MAINSTREAM INDUSTRY. But there are some artists who are in the mainstream who i think are truly artists...just like the ones stated above, i also put in Younha because she plays instruments as well i am sure that she has even written some of her songs off her album. Thats what i really love about her she has gained success in the mainstream but she is unique because not alot of the artist for example who are the big big stars really develop themseleves in that area of the business. ALot of the times i say they are entertainers rather then calling them singers. imo.

[Xaser89]

Like Younha for example , she has a talented vocal voice and she really can sing and play piano at the same time. She also write a few of her own songs and sing in Japanese although she is a korean.

[insignia]

No offense but I found the way you worded things a bit offensive. "Does Korea Have Any True Artist?" for example sounds like you're dissing the whole business. I also found this a bit offensive too: "I guess this is why more singers in the US make millions while singers in Korea...sell as much as they're worth. lol".

In my opinion, you've been too carried away with what's mainstream (big idol groups) and that doesn't seem to suit your taste. Before dissing what seems like all Korean artists, try a few less mainstream, maybe underground Korean stuff. There are plenty of "talents" out there.

lol and I have yet to listen to a singer in Korea that actually has the talent to take part in creating their own album and not just lend their cute little voice to a pointless song.

I guess you just haven't listened to enough because ClaZziQuai, Nell, and Epik High are some well known artists that take part in making their own album.

I'm also curious has to who you noticed copied what rhymes from whom.

[raiseplus]

this person is a japanese or a japania . obviously he or she is trying to be offensive.

[*kyuhyunnie*]

Rappers:
Crown J
MC Mong
JinuSean
YG
Lexy
Tasha
Druken Tigers

Singers:
Lee Soo Young(my fave)
Kim Ji Eun(best voice)
Younha
Big Mama
Eru
Wheesung

[jackthe]

obviously u have just been introduced to korean music or something but ur pretty stupid if ur basically comparing korean idol music industry to korean artists... um... use ur brain once in awhile. first of all u dont even kno the simple difference between artists and idols. second of all why in the world would u want to expand the korean music industry??? rofls wat r u some korean entertainment management company..???? let the korean ent. worry about those things n u worry about ur own,, something that'll actually get u somewhere in life. dont write a paragraph based on useless info and use some naiive analysis,, usually when ppl want to sound like a smart a.. they usually use pretty good backup info n no spelling mistakes..
n how in da hell is dbsk not artists?? they can sing better than any idols. they can write and compose their own music.. give me five good reason why they arent. n i'll bow down to u ... it bettter be good on something no1 can even defend on.

ppl usually get the idea when they come into a soompi music forum filled with asian teens they'll end up finding idols to be on the top list of popularity but i guess in ur case ur brain didnt function enuff to understand that..

or u just joined this site yesterday to write this paragraph..rofls r u DAT DESPERATE?

care to explain what
seotaiji
byun jin sup
kim gun mo
lee seung chul
jaurim
epik high
dbsk
jo pd
lin soon hee
sg wannabe
seeya
crying nuts
no brain
boa
parkhwayobi
kim c
kim jang hoon
eun ji won
ok joo hyun
yang pa
big mama
lin
seo moon tak
jadu
maya
lim jung hee
horan
park jung hyun
so chan hwea
do eun young
baek ji young
wax
gabby queens
j
lee soo young
lin ae
byul
lee so ra
gumi
zia
may
rose
roo roo
butterfly affect
nova sonic
the classic
vos
fly to the sky
dynamic duo
def con
nok saek ji dae
lexy
1tym
bu whal

and etc have been doing with their career??? atleast krn music doesnt base on sex n getting it down n dirty... n i kno that u kno wat im talking about. if u can even comprehend that clearly.

[deeta]

You don't have to write your own song to be an artist. That's the composer/lyricist's job. Celine Dion hardly ever write any of her song but she's one of the most wanted artist in the world. I think fot an artist (as a singer), the most important thing is that he/she should have a natural gifted vocal.

My red.: Big Mama. Their voice is undeniable. Some members also compose/arrange songs. They all take part in the music arrangement process of their album as what instrument should be used and how to use it the most efficent way to boost the song's charm.

Sorry, I just wanted to comment on this. I have quite an opposing opinion. I think to be considered an artist is that you have to sculpt and mold your own artistry, and for music artists, one of the ways is to compose or write your own songs. They don't have to have big voice. Sure, natural gifted vocal plays a huge part, but just having that (like you mentioned in your Celine Dion example) means that they're singers, instead of artists. But you know, to each his own!

Anyways, my Korean Music knowledge is very limited, consisted mainly of Mass Pop. The ones I could think of right now is JYP, Tablo, and I'm bias, but Lee Min Woo/M (he writes lyrics, composes 8 out of the 12 songs in his 3rd album, and he choreographs his dance moves as well).

ETA: BTW, why are people taking offense from the thread? If you disagree, then state why, don't go on saying stupid and stuff.

[iyeiluj]

i've always thought that kim jo han is an amazing artist...

[Olivia*sSlave*]

SEOTAIJI
end of story
seotaiji is the only one you really need to know

[chiyo]

^

word. seotaiji = genius

there are... actually there are artists like that in every country. you just have to look into the underground section ^^

there´s a few artists, who write/compose their own songs in mainstream as well.

- JYP (he does like everything, write, compose, sing, dance, do his own choreographies, producing, and even training and managing his own company) being the most famous i guess.
- 1tym (Teddy and Baekyoung do producing and composing)
- BigBang´s Gdragon does some producing

jackthe named quite a long list ... but no need to use words like "stupid" etc. the threadstarter was just asking questions, she didn´t intend any harm...

[kOoHII]

geez some people need to chill and stop playing the race card while getting all worked up about wording!

my pick goes to clazziquai. alex and horan's voices are different (though i wouldn't say GREAT)...but their music is a fusion of all types of genres. they're able to somehow combine all these different genres and make their own signature music that actually sounds pleasant to the ear.

another pick would be jyp. he is an awesome performer (i don't know anyone who has the same amount of energy and enthusiasm as he does except for maybe the yg family folks)...writes good music that actually become hits...and he has arguably produced classic songs for the kpop industry (i.e. don't leave me, honey)

[Tonyc402]

and yet some people on this site say chinese music is unoriginal .... HAH! yet they dont even put their whole feet in the water.

People should be more open minded

[jackthe]

jackthe named quite a long list ... but no need to use words like "stupid" etc. the threadstarter was just asking questions, she didn´t intend any harm...

i call ppl stupid because they ARE stupid. i dont say it just because i feel like saying it. truth hurts.

[spirit uhwey]

hm never mind. wrong post

[kOoHII]

i call ppl stupid because they ARE stupid. i dont say it just because i feel like saying it. truth hurts.

stupid people don't know they're stupid...they think all others are stupid


but amen to this thread. as someone pointed out...we often criticize others for having unoriginal music but what about kpop? i love how the topic poster made us think again...are we being hypocrites also? are we simply manufacturing/packaging artists while criticizing other countries' musicians for being talentless? i'm sure there are a lot of talented singers in every country...but this topic goes to show that not all of kpop is all that it claims to be.

[PH4T]

i've always thought that kim jo han is an amazing artist...

^Kim Jo Han is amazing. I want to add Lena Park to the list.
She's underated, but her ballads are crazy.