[JJ.exot5ia]

hi there ^^ i read through the pages and some questions caught
my eye and i have a few of my own.

1. Everyone is talking about abs, how to achieve them and all... but for girls, it's not really pretty to have abs, i mean, you don't wanna look like a man. So, every time they talk about sit up s and stuff, i can always like imagine this girl (that i've actually seen before) that has like manly looking stomachs. So, i don't want that, how do you just keep it flat?

2. So... before doing the situps and such, i need to run and jump rope to make the fat go away right?

3. I have a weird thing with my stomach, like even though when i wake up, it is completely flat but even if i drink water, it puffs out. And it's not even like i have THAT much fat. Just a bit but not excessive so it shouldn't be puffing out that much. So, why is it that my stomach is lol... so sensitive? HAHA not sure but even water will just like make my tummy puff. And if i poke it (lol weird) it's not flabby or anything, it's like just... like my stomach is completely full. Even though i didn't eat anything and am hungry. T^T i dn't think i made sense....

4. How do you have a prettier butt? LMAO what exercises are used for getting a smaller, more lifted butt? i haven't seen this and have been wondering.

^^ hope someone can help!
Thank you advance <3

-Rebecca

[x_estherrrrrr_x]

im like you too.
everytime i drink water or eat, i get bloated REALLY easily.

i personally think abs are hawt on girls hahahaha.

if ur already skinny, im sure u already have a pretty flat stomach.
my friend has the same problem.. well all my super skinny friends.
they get bloated super easily..
i guess it just happens.

not really sure how to get rid of that.
and i dont think being toned would really help it either.

maybe someone else can help out?

[Anglian_Viking]

I'm currently too excited to sleep cause I got easter battle camp on Thursdays and i got nothing to do so i'm posting on soompi.

1. What do you mean manly, I can't get my eyes off a girls with abs, just like a girl trying to get their eyes off my abs lol. Once you got abs you'll probably be posing on the mirror just like me, damn there goes my secret, I hope I'm not the only one. I mean losing enough fat to see your ab muscles is one thing, being manly and turning into a body builder is another thing, women only get manly if they get testosterone injected into them as men have about 30 times the amount that women have on average. *Smacks himself on the head* Why the hell does so many girl think that it's so easy to gain muscle when you see men working out for months and month just to gain a bit of muscle.

2. You don't do sit ups just crunches, well I don't unless I'm doing fitness training with the army, it works your lower back muscles more than your abs. You just need to do some hit and shock exercise to lose weight and it's easy compared to gaining muscle considering your a girl. By doing sudden burst of anaerobic exercises like sprinting. power push ups, alternating lunging squat jumps, monkey crawling very quickly can shock your metabolism so hard that it burn 15 times more calories than continuous aerobic exercise. 6 minutes workout can make deplete all your carbohydrate and creatine stores that it feels like you hit a wall, your metabolism will speed up so fast that though out the day your body will burn about 40 to 48 calories for every kg you weigh just by resting after extremely intensive exercises.

20 second sprinting try to run atleast 140m
drop and doing 10 seconds power push up or clap push ups or 10 reps (you could do girl push ups at first so that your knee touch to floor but you still have to push hard enough that your hand lift off the floor)
jump up and start squatting for another 30 seconds (you can do this slowly and steadily with control)
get your hands on the floor and start monkey crawling for another 30 seconds (works your abs)
then get up and do alternating lunges for another 30 seconds (explosive leg changing lunges)
then start doing lateral jump for another 30 seconds
then another 10 reps of power push ups
finish off with a 20 second sprint try to run atleast 120m
no rest in between

The point of thing is to shock your body into burning off majority of the creatine and carbs off by sending blood from the liver straight to the legs and then to arms... so that your body has no time to adjust to a energy saving gear or rhythm some people call it. After exercise the body will start burning the fat throughout the day, you should be very uncomfortably painful while exercising and very tired and achy afterwards, it works quite well for me lost like 5 pounds in a week I only did it for a week last spring. Suddenly being a vegetarian is also a good way to loose weight by quickly changing the main sources of energy (fat from meat) with low GI fructose from fruit and fiberous carbs of veg would hit the metabolism hard too.


3. Weak internal ab muscles, just suck up lots of air and hold your breath for 60 seconds so that your chest sticks out and your stomach is sucked up everyday day, the puff should shrink in a fortnight, if it doesn't shrink in a fortnight try harder.

4. Sprinting, lunges, squats the exercise I told you on point 2, Gaining muscle definition so your butt is firm would be so much harder than burning the fat, though it's way worth the attention when you actually have it.

-Your welcome

-Wing

[melo.breeze]

^^^^
I want to try that !!
LOL !! I copy n paste your tutorial
stick it up on my wall hahahaha

[tinil-galia]

Girls with abs are hot!
I doubt girls would get six-pack abs or eight-pack abs unless they get testosterones injected into them.
But, it could be possible due to genetics.

Do what Anglian_Viking said for toning.

[Anglian_Viking]

uzumaki_paosss Posted Today, 12:41 PM
^^^^
I want to try that !!
LOL !! I copy n paste your tutorial
stick it up on my wall hahahaha

I'm already dreaming about your sexy six pack (I love it on girls)
Yeah Say goodbye to your love handles as your going to murder them and say hello to your new hot booty... I meant body

tinil-galia Posted Today, 01:40 PM
Girls with abs are hot!
I doubt girls would get six-pack abs or eight-pack abs unless they get testosterones injected into them.
But, it could be possible due to genetics.

Do what Anglian_Viking said for toning. biggrin.gif
stick it up on my wall hahahaha

I'm sure you can see your abs if you worked out long enough, it's not really genetics and if it was down to genetics, what muscle do you think your working when your doing crunches?
Everyone has a six pack, it's just underneath the layer of fat for some people, girl will need to reach 12-16% fat to see their abs whilst guys need to reach 8-12% fat. Btw we don't count the two packs underneath the belly button so it's a 6 pack.

[watcher]

it works quite well for me lost like 5 pounds in a week I only did it for a week last spring. Suddenly being a vegetarian is also a good way to loose weight by quickly changing the main sources of energy (fat from meat) with low GI fructose from fruit and fiberous carbs of veg would hit the metabolism hard too.

i can't speak for you, but most people will not lose 5 pounds of fat in a week unless they were severely overweight to begin with. biggest portion of those pounds for the average person will all be water weight, with some in fat and some in muscle. [also, there's variation on how people weigh themselves... like clothes, when they pooped, etc]

people shouldn't get the wrong idea about the numbers, as they can be deceptive to what they really want.

[chery]

well there's another way to make your stomach flat... yeah you can do sit-ups but if you do it TOO many ties, you'll simply get abs.
the other way is stand up, move your feet a little bit, put your hands on your hips and turn left to right...vise versa.
left right, bend down stand up, left right..... that one gives you nice curvs(?) too xD
well it work for me.. so donno about you girls...

[Anglian_Viking]

i can't speak for you, but most people will not lose 5 pounds of fat in a week unless they were severely overweight to begin with. biggest portion of those pounds for the average person will all be water weight, with some in fat and some in muscle. [also, there's variation on how people weigh themselves... like clothes, when they pooped, etc]

people shouldn't get the wrong idea about the numbers, as they can be deceptive to what they really want.

It worked for me, last spring when I had some winter fat I weigh about 62kg let's just say 60kg to make the maths easier, I always measure myself in the morning after I went to the toilet and I'm usually just wearing what I sleep with so boxers or nothing. Here's some of the maths:

Lower rang value:
Let's just say I burnt 40 calories per kg of bodyweight (another easy number to work with) per week just from rest a day for like a week. So 60kg x 40kcal = 2400kcals a day x 7= 16800 kcal for the whole week

Now since fat is 9 kcal per gram we divide 16800 by 9 giving me 1866grams of fat, I know I could of burnt carbohydrates (that's 4kcal per gram) but it's unlikely as I always deplete chunks of carbs from the human body muscles can store 350 grams of carbs in the form of muscle glycogen and 90 grams from the liver whilst the body can typically store way more fat the carbs. Therefore just ignore the carb weight for now. 1866gram of fat times by 2.2 is about 4.1 pound if I burnt 100% fat

Upper range value:
since 40 is 10/10 48 is 12/10 so times 1866grams of fat x times by 2.2lbs x 1.2upper range= 4.9 pounds if I burnt 100% fat. Fine it's not quite 5 pounds

lol I don't bother with carbs so i'm going to neglect it since it's 4 calories and not 9 calories like fat I'll have to times it with 2.25 giving me a crazy number like 9.25lbs - 11lbs lost a week, but the body doesn't burn that much carbs while at rest compared to fat.

This doesn't include the carbs and phosphocreatine burnt whilst in exercise, daily activities or my vegetarien diet in the week I was only calculating the amount of fat burnt during rest. Even if I did add the calculations for my diet and daily activities I wouldn't remember cause it was so long ago, though the routines I had is still in my memory because it was the dominate factor in the weight lost that's been going on my mind for those weeks.



1. People who do not do high intensity (or fast twitch fatigable) exercises or used to low intensity endurance exercises will find it hard for their muscles and metabolism to cope making the body burn extra surplus of energy. I'm a cardio person that got lazy last winter months and got fat during christmas and really needed to loose the winter fat, as I'm more of a slow twitch muscle fatigue resistant person by doing hard intensity fast twitch muscle fibre movements without rest, i feel right out of my comfort zone especially with the build up of lactic acids burning all over the place. Thus giving me no time to fall into a energy saving zone/gear/rhythm what ever people call it as each exercise is under 30 seconds long.

2. By making lots(compared low intensity cardio) of blood flow very quickly all over the body from muscle to muscle it'll cause the blood vessel to muscles expand throughout the day, diverting more blood that carries nutrients to fuel the muscles than digestive organs such as stomach, intestines, liver, pancreas etc... making the calorie absorption in the body lower and more dependent on the bodies store.

3. Eating a vegetarian diet with a variety of foods that are high in fiber and water can trick the body into thinking it's full and it cuts out alot of the fat from meat. Ever lean meat has about 10% saturated fat stored within the cells, you can see the fats in the fat cell but the fat in the muscle cell are invisible just like the glycogen in the muscle that you can't see, if you relied on meat as your main source of energy supply it'll hit the bodies metabolism very high if you replaced it with veg. Your going eat quite alot of different types of food to get the perfect combination of complete protein, the more variety you have the harder to digestive system would need to work, . If your a regular meat eater when you taste meat alone for example your brain will make the bodies produce the optimum amount of pepsin, trypsin and peptidases to break down the protein (complete proteins meat) and lipase top break down fats. If you eat like a salad with olives, tomatoes, red kidney beans, cress, cucumber, cabbage etc that's going to confuse your brain.

1. They contain incomplete proteins so the brain will not be able to tell the pancreas to produce the right combination and amount of protease due to the inaccuracy of the taste buds not all of the vegetable would distributed evenly to land on the taste buds. Tip: if you want to digest foods better keep chewing your food so that it improves the accuracy reading of the taste buds

2. New vegetables in the salad would annoy your digestive system as they have different combination of nutrients, which the body have clue of what enzymes to make and send, so it's trial and error for the body at a cost of time and energy in the production. However pretty soon the body will get cell memory making it more efficient at digesting the food.

3. Some of the foods would be alkaline base such as the tomato, cucumber, cabbage etc... they will react with the acid forming water. Therefore making the body spend more time and energy producing more acid just to digest it.

4. As the routine only lasted a week with about 42 minutes for the whole process, muscle memory won't be a problem since the body has very little time to adjust for a efficient energy saving engine(can't think of the word). Think about it yourself.


5. After exercise you would be breathing more oxygen and blood vessels in the lung would be larger and more efficient in absorbing oxygen and the heart would be working faster to re-supply the muscles and fuel them with nutrients for repair and growth. This is due to the excretion of vascular endothelial growth factor that enables new blood vessels, increase in the size of blood vessels and repairing. The more you breath the more burning fat and carbs there is. I would go on about fick's law and other growth factors and hormone but I don't think majority of you would understand so I'll save myself the hassle.

What a relief

Please excuse my grammar ans spelling

[watcher]

- i dont think the body burns fat at the rate of 100% at rest.
- HIIT/circuit training exercises don't boost metabolism effectively for the entire day. you do it in the morning, and it tapers off into the afternoon/evening
- despite the thermic effect of foods as well as the body's attempt to adjust it's digestive methods, the food you eat will still supply a portion of your total daily energy usage. [at the very least, you need to eat enough to restore glycogen to keep up the intensity of your exercise routine, which amounts to some fraction of your calories per day]

in other words, the math you put down is an ideal case in which your caloric intake is canceled out to 0 due to thermic effect and exercise, assuming you burn 100% of your calories in body fat and on top of that, you've worked out hard enough that you've reached the upper range of metabolic activity consistently everyday for the span of a week, and even at that, it's 4.9 pounds.

as i said before, i can't speak for you. sometimes, genetics plays a big role and some people can burn it off real quick. so i can't say that YOU cannot do it. but for the average person, this is not a reality. it's a dream, and they shouldn't be fooled into thinking these goals can be met. Numbers like these are generally seen when bodybuilders start cutting for competition.

also, you didn't really mention anything along the lines of your lean body mass and simply mentioned the scale. did you get an accurate measure of your body fat percentage? that tells a whole lot more than the scale will.

[Anglian_Viking]

- i dont think the body burns fat at the rate of 100% at rest.
-Sorry I meant calorie derived from fat is 100% just for simpler calculations, I know it's not but I can't be bothered to make things more complicated by adding a % portion for muscle glycogen and plasma FFA, plasma glucose.

- HIIT/circuit training exercises don't boost metabolism effectively for the entire day. you do it in the morning, and it tapers off into the afternoon/evening
-I did mine about noon everyday. The 40-48 calories per kg of bodyweight from daily recovery includes the calories from immediate recovery it'll reset some where in your sleep if it doesn't fully reset you'll wake up with morning after pains, which i had for the first two days. With extreme intensity and duration the post exercise burn is more intense than moderate intensity duration and could potentially last even longer than the morning after at up 48 hours. Arguments during recovery can postpone you for a maximum of 1 day extra lucky everyone around me were cheerful at the new year. Immediate recovery is up to about 4 hours long and it's when the body refuels the energy that's burn off and produces expensive phosphocreatine stores with some of our amino acids just sad it see like kcal just disappear in like 10 seconds . The first hour after HIIT whilst at rest and in immediate recover period your body consumes the most calories and carbs through out the daily recovery, it'll be equivalent to 142% your steady state jogging metabolism that's about 850 calories (600kcal burnt from an hours jogging x 142% = 852 kcal). That's why you'll see athlete's snacking on bar, bananas, sport beverage every hour after exercising, during the immediate recovery phase, they should snack about 1g of carbs per kg they weight every hour for 4 hours after exercise,.The main purpose of hit for many people is to increase the maximum VO2 capacity due to the excretion of vascular endothelial growth factor, which encourages growth of blood vessels throughout the the body especially for lungs, heart and muscles, more blood vessels more surface are in lung better VO2 and you can apply ficks law for diffusion to this. The new blood vessels would growing throughout the day. When you sleep the night after you had the 6 minutes of torturing HIIT exercise, your body will produce about 530% more growth hormones than the baseline, the growth of muscle are very expensive in terms of calorific value ask any bodybuilder.

- despite the thermic effect of foods as well as the body's attempt to adjust it's digestive methods, the food you eat will still supply a portion of your total daily energy usage. [at the very least, you need to eat enough to restore glycogen to keep up the intensity of your exercise routine, which amounts to some fraction of your calories per day]

in other words, the math you put down is an ideal case in which your caloric intake is canceled out to 0 due to thermicet ch that you've reached the upper range of metabolic activity consistently everyday for the span of a week, and even at that, it's 4.9 pounds.
-You do know that I did not include the calories burnt whilst exercising, daily activities and diet. I was only giving an example of how initially being vegetarian could help lose weight. I would expected my baseline metabolism and daily activities to cancel out the calories from the diet as I was pretty much balanced in terms of energy in = energy used after Christmas parties. I'm more likely to have burnt/deanimated off 90% triglycerides(9kcal) and 10% glycogen and protein(4kcal) of the 16800-20160 calories. 1680g-2016g of fat and 420g-504g proteins and carbs making it 4.62 lbs lower range and 5.544bs upper range making it an average of 5.084lbs. Since i did not calculate the calories intake from foods and calories expenditure from daily routine and exercise they should cancel out along with all the undigested and partially digested foods *cough* sweet corn, peas, mushrooms. beans etc *cough *

as i said before, i can't speak for you. sometimes, genetics plays a big role and some people can burn it off real quick. so i can't say that YOU cannot do it. but for the average person, this is not a reality. it's a dream, and they shouldn't be fooled into thinking these goals can be met. Numbers like these are generally seen when bodybuilders start cutting for competition.
-To be honest I wasn't really expecting to see that much result, but I did see my muscle definition show up so quickly when the fat moved out of the way, i didn't measure myself during the week only at the before I started and after I end. If I would of know that I've lost more than 2 lbs I would have slowed down as anything that's 3lb or more is bad for the wellbeing, I was almost puking after the routine in the first two days and exhausted and achy as hell throughout the weeks so I agree that it's does harm the wellbeing.

also, you didn't really mention anything along the lines of your lean body mass and simply mentioned the scale. did you get an accurate measure of your body fat percentage? that tells a whole lot more than the scale will.
-I don't really care that much about body fat % to be honest and I didn't have those fat and lean muscle measuring device or equipment. I just want to lose enough fact so I look good before the spring term the coming week. Who really cares about the body fat percentage, it's really the looks they are after. How many people measure their fat percentage and lean muscle mass? or even have the equipment to measure it.

It was nice writing to you, the more I write the more it help with my revision and memory Watcher is the best

For those who didn't know it's good to keep your brain active as the brain itself is one of the most energy demanding organs, our brain alone would be able to power a light bulb, I don't think it's possible but theoretically it can according to this guy.
The brain uses up 20% of the oxygen absorbed by the body, 25% of the calories and 40% of the glucose amazing eh?
Btw mix 1 table spoon of sodium bicarbonate, 2 tablespoons of glucose and 1 teaspoon of salt wit 1 litre of water and you'll be hydrated for longer, if you put too much salt eat some bananas to get some potassium in you, the sodium bicarbonate or baking soda could reduce improve on the anaerobic threshold.

Anyways see you next week cause I got to go to battle camp, the joy of getting shot and woken up at night with people shooting at us, with blanks of course and shooting at them back with blanks the very next day.

[x. suki]

i think girls with abs are hot XD
LOL i want abs ._____.
jst slight not extremely obvious ones =P

[ilovejaejoong]

whoa a lot of detailed people here. im sucking my stomach while replying because it's good for the tummy hahaha just buy HipHop Abs if you want abs.

[tinil-galia]

You can try doing the 8 minutes abs workout thingy + cardio. Lose the fats, gain some muscle.
I'm seeing some shape now.

I'm sure you can see your abs if you worked out long enough, it's not really genetics and if it was down to genetics, what muscle do you think your working when your doing crunches?
Everyone has a six pack, it's just underneath the layer of fat for some people, girl will need to reach 12-16% fat to see their abs whilst guys need to reach 8-12% fat. Btw we don't count the two packs underneath the belly button so it's a 6 pack.

I guess we need to work hard to get our abs to show.
Thanks for correcting me. HAH, I wasn't sure about this.

[lananhcali18]

wow Anglian_Viking! you really know what you're talking about.

As for losing weight, i lost 5lbs last week just eating protein & no carb diet with lots & lots of water. I'm using ab roller right now and it works great. My ab hurt a lot but it mean i works hard on it. about 50 rep each day. It doesn't take long - like 2 minute but trust me, you really work during that short period. I hate sits-up & crunches so this work for me.

[watcher]

also, you didn't really mention anything along the lines of your lean body mass and simply mentioned the scale. did you get an accurate measure of your body fat percentage? that tells a whole lot more than the scale will.
-I don't really care that much about body fat % to be honest and I didn't have those fat and lean muscle measuring device or equipment. I just want to lose enough fact so I look good before the spring term the coming week. Who really cares about the body fat percentage, it's really the looks they are after. How many people measure their fat percentage and lean muscle mass? or even have the equipment to measure it.

there's nothing that tells a better reflection of truth than measuring your results. anyone who is really serious about diet and exercise should log their results/routine/diet. it's the most effective way to do handle your progress and figure out how to go the extra mile to get a maximum effect.

For those who didn't know it's good to keep your brain active as the brain itself is one of the most energy demanding organs, our brain alone would be able to power a light bulb, I don't think it's possible but theoretically it can according to this guy.
The brain uses up 20% of the oxygen absorbed by the body, 25% of the calories and 40% of the glucose amazing eh?
Btw mix 1 table spoon of sodium bicarbonate, 2 tablespoons of glucose and 1 teaspoon of salt wit 1 litre of water and you'll be hydrated for longer, if you put too much salt eat some bananas to get some potassium in you, the sodium bicarbonate or baking soda could reduce improve on the anaerobic threshold.

Anyways see you next week cause I got to go to battle camp, the joy of getting shot and woken up at night with people shooting at us, with blanks of course and shooting at them back with blanks the very next day.

homemade gatorade... haha... nice
and good luck with battle camp.

[fihe]

2. You don't do sit ups just crunches, well I don't unless I'm doing fitness training with the army, it works your lower back muscles more than your abs. You just need to do some hit and shock exercise to lose weight and it's easy compared to gaining muscle considering your a girl. By doing sudden burst of anaerobic exercises like sprinting. power push ups, alternating lunging squat jumps, monkey crawling very quickly can shock your metabolism so hard that it burn 15 times more calories than continuous aerobic exercise. 6 minutes workout can make deplete all your carbohydrate and creatine stores that it feels like you hit a wall, your metabolism will speed up so fast that though out the day your body will burn about 40 to 48 calories for every kg you weigh just by resting after extremely intensive exercises.

20 second sprinting try to run atleast 140m
drop and doing 10 seconds power push up or clap push ups or 10 reps (you could do girl push ups at first so that your knee touch to floor but you still have to push hard enough that your hand lift off the floor)
jump up and start squatting for another 30 seconds (you can do this slowly and steadily with control)
get your hands on the floor and start monkey crawling for another 30 seconds (works your abs)
then get up and do alternating lunges for another 30 seconds (explosive leg changing lunges)
then start doing lateral jump for another 30 seconds
then another 10 reps of power push ups
finish off with a 20 second sprint try to run atleast 120m
no rest in between

The point of thing is to shock your body into burning off majority of the creatine and carbs off by sending blood from the liver straight to the legs and then to arms... so that your body has no time to adjust to a energy saving gear or rhythm some people call it. After exercise the body will start burning the fat throughout the day, you should be very uncomfortably painful while exercising and very tired and achy afterwards, it works quite well for me lost like 5 pounds in a week I only did it for a week last spring. Suddenly being a vegetarian is also a good way to loose weight by quickly changing the main sources of energy (fat from meat) with low GI fructose from fruit and fiberous carbs of veg would hit the metabolism hard too.

that sounds scary