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#1651 User is offline   clicheterms 

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE (13!SuJuAmor @ Apr 9 2008, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Out of all the members of SJ M, Zhoumi is the only one I don't like. Although most people see this and immediately assume I'm bashing ZM, that is not true. There is a difference between not liking someone and actively disliking. I'm indifferent towards him. I've decided to reserve judgment since I'm not impressed with what he has shown so far, but he might have some awesome points we are unaware of at the moment. As for the crying, he had to know what he was going to face once it was announced that he would be part of SJ M, a group that has been receiving negative comments since they were announced. Having said that, I know that as people, it is sometimes hard to control our emotions, whether in public or private, so he should not be bashed for being vulnerable. However, if his crying becomes a regular occurrence, I can see how some people will take that as being 'fake'.
As far as the banners are concerned, I think that the whole point of being allowed banners to begin with, was to display our individualism and preferences. Therefore, people's banners will reflect what they believe in and care about, that's why there are banners supporting SJ M & banners supporting Only13. If I have a group, whether it be this one or any other, and only like three members out of five, I will have a banner with those three members, simple as that. It is unreasonable to want to force people to like all members. Even in Super Junior, there are fans who claim they only like one or three members, yet they are still allowed to post in forums.
This is to everyone, not just you. I cannot bring myself to hate people who are working hard to achieve their dreams, that is why I accept SJ M, but I cannot be forced to immediately love people I don't know. Getting to know the boys, seeing their personalities and their interaction with each other is what made me love SJ rather than just like their music. So I don't think it's unreasonable for me to take my time and decide for my own whether I like the new members. Not liking them does not make me a horrible person or a bad fan. I think Henry is the most adorable thing walking and crazy awesome with the violin. These are opinions I can reach on my own, thank you. I don't need anyone shoving them down my throat.

re: zhoumi. you are very right, and i agree w. you completely. however, i was addressing the fact that people still haven't had the chance to get to know him and yet immediately judge him. i'm not making anyone love him - in fact, i'm not all that attached to him either. but it's unwarranted comments that call him conceived and give him no chances to prove otherwise that bother me. it's a perfectly reasonable conclusion if he's already cried several times in the few days sjm has debuted but that's not the case, and, until then, there's no reason for people to call him "fake", especially if his time in the spotlight so far is a cumulative 15 minutes.
and the banners i was referring to are the ones that proclaim "the way sjm should be". it's not that way; deal w. it. i'm not saying they shouldn't have the banners, either. i was wondering why they would still be around here if they have a problem w. the way the group is. i didn't ask them to leave.

QUOTE (miss scarlett @ Apr 9 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About Henry, he is officially considered as Cantonese because his dad is Cantonese, from Hong Kong. His mom is from Taiwan. I do not think his mom is a native Taiwanese though. Since his mom speaks Mandarin, it is not a surprise that he understands more Mandarin than Cantonese, since mixed-language families usually blend more to the mother's side.
From what it seems to me Henry understands Mandarin quite well, it's just that he is still unable to speak it fluently.

have we heard henry speak cantonese yet? his mandarin sounds very local taiwanese, but i've yet to hear him speak canto to gauge his knowledge.

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 04:48 PM

does anyone know when they'll have a performance in china/taiwan!? id like to see them livee
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 04:50 PM

haa..i've been wanting to post here but idek..everytime i was about to post something there's always this little arguments going on sweatingbullets.gif
but anyways i just want to say that thanks to all the ZM erm..drama, he became my #2 fav after Donghae lol. and yes, it's really tiring to be him i guess..when he talks much, people would think he's an attention hogger (while in fact he is trained to be an mc and is one member other than hankyung that actually fluent in the language). when he shows a bit of his sensitive side, people still think he's an attention hogger. but if he keeps silent in the background, people would think he's not that outgoing or that he is simply a cold person *sigh* on a lighter note, i also love ZM's side profile tongue.gif
oh and i'm also glad that more people are loving the guuhh.. so adorable!Henry biggrin.gif it's about time!

about the banners..i do understand that no one can force someone else to like all 7 members and to put all 7 members in the pict, but i think more than the cutting ZM and Henry out, it's more about the words written there. I have my favs too from certain groups and I would make banners just w/ those favs, but I would never put something like "Jessica, Taeyeon and Yuri: how SNSD should be" or wtvr. and yeah, that kinda hurts here *points at heart* lmao.

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 04:51 PM

just wanted to post with the SJM member's threads... stop by ^^

I was just skimming back a few pages, and clicked who i was, but I didn't see Siwon's or Henry's?

I know Henry has a thread, maybe I just didn't go back enough or maybe I didn't see it ;___;


And I'm pretty sure Zhou-Mi doesn't have one yet. I can fix that 8D!

Anyways:

Hankyung韩庚(sj's Member) Pics

Choi Si Won Young Kang Bong Man From 18 V 29 (Siwon Thread)
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[official] Lee Donghae Picture Thread, Post Your Lee Donghae Pictures Here =)

★ [official] Kim Ryeowook (김려욱) ☆, Super Junior's Eternal Magnae ♡

Cho Kyuhyun Picture Thread~ ♫, ♡ the cutest magnae from superjunior

Henry Lau ---- Violin Boy's Official Thread
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I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:

if you have Zhou-Mi pictures, then please PM them to me. ♡

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 04:51 PM

I'm kind of slow but I just heard SJM's version of 至少还有你. I'm totally in love with that song. I can't stop replaying it and I don't usually listen to Chinese music.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 9 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:


^^ thank you, i think that will be a great idea. if more people are exposed to ZM, they'll understand him more and appreciate/maybe accept him.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (uyuki @ Apr 9 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like your banner I taking it. ^^ Super Junior M Fighting!

DO NOT QUOTE PICTURES! i see this is your new post, try to start
off with a nice start


QUOTE (nhbsakakude @ Apr 9 2008, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know i'll be honest and say that before this,all ur posts kinda make me a bit angry/sad
but this is the first time I really love u for saying this.. XDXD

yup yup~ haha i'll think outside of the box!

QUOTE (chickenwing @ Apr 9 2008, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
THEY CHANGE THEIR HANDS UP.. THEY USE 3 FINGERS NOW..

i like it this way too! differentiate!

QUOTE (jessicman @ Apr 9 2008, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

DONGHAE IS L O V E

QUOTE (16candl3s @ Apr 9 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

wahh~ great with their fellow dongseng! li yin <3
they must be happy to see some familiar faces!

QUOTE (jessicman @ Apr 9 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
0408 SOHU <Star Online>(I am not sure for this name) interview
part1:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/dbtCswFfgsA/
part2:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-ntCvlxbuk0/
part3:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LPjVxa94AYc/
another video by fans in 0408 音乐风云榜:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_ck00XMjM2MjQ4MzY=.html

i'll edit this when i finish watching <3

edit:

and yeah~ about zhoumi i figured what everyone else said
is the right thing. he's trained to be an MC, an entertainer
and even with his looks you can tell that he's the talkative
type. plus, someone other than geng needs to talk right? but
a lot of the fans are taking it in with a bad perspective. Although
i myself do think that zhoumi is a bit arrogant somewhat.
i can understand how hard it is for him, well not literally since
i'm not him but still.

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#1658 User is offline   BlaisePaige 

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:03 PM

I've been stalking your thread for a few days now. I was never into Super Junior hence, I'll be coming in from the cold. I'm familiar with some members like Hankyung. I first saw him on a video at YouTube where he had a solo stage in a Chinese variety show dancing to a Michael Jackson inspired number. It was so impressive that I had to goggle him!

I came across Kyuhyun after watching his duet of 'A Whole New World' with Charice. Another impressive performance that I had to goggle him, too! Henry, I came across him when my Canadian friend pointed his violin performance video to me. Now, that was impressive! Yeah, I goggled him, too!

From what I have seen, I'm very optimistic of this new group. I'm not familiar with the other members as much as I want to be but from what I have seen from these three-I can tell that the members all have their specialty and were carefully chosen to perform a particular role in the group.

There are other fans like me. Fans who are not familiar with Super Junior in general and Super Junior M in particular whose interest were piqued primarily by the composition of talents in this new group.

Hopefully, fans will finally be united behind this new group but if that seem to be impossible because of the prevailing mindset be rest assured that new fans will be coming in from the cold. =)


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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 10 2008, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just wanted to post with the SJM member's threads... stop by ^^

I was just skimming back a few pages, and clicked who i was, but I didn't see Siwon's or Henry's?

i know there's a Henry thread somewhere but i don't have link since i'm not keeping track of that

but there's a Siwon thread it's actually his acting thread but can post solo pictures of him there too

Choi Siwon acting thread <3
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (jessicman @ Apr 9 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
0408 SOHU <Star Online>(I am not sure for this name) interview

part1:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/dbtCswFfgsA/
part2:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-ntCvlxbuk0/
part3:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LPjVxa94AYc/


thanks for your links ^^
i loved watching this interview.. it was much funnier and way more entertaining..
donghae and ryeowook was so cute ^^... and hanggeng <3

lol i have a question about one part of the interview though..
you're going to have to excuse me cuase my mandarin isn't very good..
but when they were told to draw sumthing that repsented beijing... what did henry draw? i think the mc dude said it.. but i didn't really catch it...

btw... i can't believe how fast the thread is going.. lol
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:24 PM

wahh..i really like their song 'the one' and 至少还有你
they sound great^^ ahaha....and they are soo cute
during the sohu interview. donghae always seems
to put a smile on my face. and henry is just soo
adorable too^^. lol. SJ-M FIGHTING^^
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:24 PM

well, I hope sjm do really well in china. actually, I'm sure they well.
and I loove their choreo for u, it's hot.

so about zhoumi, at first, I thought he was alright. cause he was cute.
and then I heard his rap, and I was pretty impressed. but then..that
interview @___@ it was awkward to cry o___O really really awkward.
the MCs must have felt soo uncomfortable. anyway, so I don't know
what to think about him. I dont like him but I dont hate him. kind of
indifferent. I think I'll have to get used to him more.

I think the reason why a lot of people dont like zhoumi is because he's
kind of like..completely new to us. we've seen henry and obviously, we know
and love the other five very well. so it's hard to accept zhoumi. but I'm
sure he'll gain more fans in due time.

and man, I'm slow. I still havent heard their olympics song.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:24 PM

can't wait to see them
henry looks sooo cute~^____^
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:24 PM

QUOTE (clicheterms @ Apr 10 2008, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and let me say something mean and ask why all the hxc only13 fans w. their ridiculously disrespectful banners are still hanging around here.


Before you say anything about other fans, I think you should think about what you yourself are saying first as well. When you're putting it like that, does it really make you any better than those Only13 fans? I don't mean this to ONLY you, but to everyone who keep calling other fans by names or say mean stuff about each others' opinions.

Someone said some pages back - "Don't like all 7 members, then don't post."

What kind of attitude is that? This is a thread for everyone. And writing stuff like that really doesn't make you any better than the Only13 supporters.

Some Only13 supporters can be mean and have a bad attitude, yes. But please think about how you yourself are behaving first before saying stuff about them. If you think they're mean, disrespectful, immature etc, then don't lower yourself to their level you too. Show that you're more mature than them instead.

All I want to say is that calling each others by names really doesn't make one seem any better, this goes for BOTH Only13 supporters and SJ-M supporters. If you really feel like you have to pick on the Only13 supporters, then do it with a friend via PM or msn. Or if you feel like you hate the SJ-M supporters so much, then tell that to a friend via PM or msn. I just want to keep this thread clean.

There are actually some fans who are Only13 supporters but that are still supporting SJ-M as well, or some Only13 fans come here to get information about the 5 original members, and since this is a thread for everyone, I want them to feel welcomed here too. So please respect that.


I'm sorry if it feels like I'm bringing this whole thing up again, but I hope someone gets my point..

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:26 PM

omggg XD
im listening to their
至少还有你 and The One
songs..

wow. i love them so much O_O
i really like 至少还有你 myself.. it sounds sooooo freaking good..
man.. when is their cd coming out X_X;;

henry sounds so cuteee
and dang.. hangeng sounds so good!! XDDDDDD



and 13!SuJuAmor:: i dont know why but i still cant find reasons for me to like zhou mi..
like.. i like his singing and his voice and stuff. but theres something about him that i feel like i cant accept him yet =//
but like henry.. at first i didnt like him when he first came out in the don't don mv.. but later on i started to really really really like him..

[OMG. I JUST GOT TO HANGENG'S SOLO in the bridge IN THE ONE. AND IT SOUNDS SO FREAKING GOOD XDDDDD and zhou mi sounds really good too >3<]

.. dang.. how can ryeowook sound so freaking good >3< xDDD
but yeah.. i love henry now. but i think i still need time to accept zhou mi. i mean i dont hate him. in fact, i like him, but thats only because of his singing. other than that im still not impressed.. i still havnt see the reason why i shuold like him. u know? xD i dont know how to explain it. but im not saying zhoumi should leave sj-m or anything. i just hope in the future, he can make me like him more =] XD
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:27 PM

Hi Shenlu smile.gif

I understand what you are saying also. Thank you for being understanding of what I was saying.

It's all good! tongue.gif

And let me say Henry is sooooo adorable! biggrin.gif

But man, did Siwon look very sexy in the MV, when the girl walked by and he grabbed her. His look was like "I want you!"

Oh and wanted to add that let us not forget that Donghae and Ryeowook are emotional people also.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 9 2008, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just wanted to post with the SJM member's threads... stop by ^^

I was just skimming back a few pages, and clicked who i was, but I didn't see Siwon's or Henry's?

I know Henry has a thread, maybe I just didn't go back enough or maybe I didn't see it ;___;

And I'm pretty sure Zhou-Mi doesn't have one yet. I can fix that 8D!

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I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:

if you have Zhou-Mi pictures, then please PM them to me. ♡


Henry's thread <3

Yeah I've had it bookmarked in my favorites lol. ^^

I have no objection to a Zhoumi thread, I think it'd be nice if you started one smile.gif


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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:32 PM

Vattenboll, the problem is not that only 13 fans cannot post in here, but it is what they post in here that is offensive.

Oh and agree with the name calling because I did it earlier in a post and my fellow SUJU fans called me out on it and they were right! smile.gif
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:33 PM

where's the video of zm crying? o_o;
this thread moves so fast i can't keep up T__T lol

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:35 PM

exotsiax13: I'm just saying that there are subs for SJM available in the future. Of course you can also sub.

News article. smile.gif Please no bashing on the article.


SJ-M debuts in the midst of oppositon, Han Geng responds



April 8th, SJ-M's members were officially chosen; this also includes the original Super Junior members: Han Geng, Siwon, Kyuhyun, Donghae, Ryeowook, there's also two new Chinese members --- Henry and Zhou Mi. At the Music Feng Yun Rank news center, Han Geng introduced the new members. One member is from Wu Han, singer Zhou Mi and the other from Canada but now coming back to his home country, Henry. April 8th was SJ-M's debut and also first time performing in China so it has caught a lot of attention.

But ever since SM Entertainment said to have a SJ-M group and adding new members, there were a lot of opposition from the fas. From BeiFang Online's netizens, a lot have commented that they don't wish to have new members, but of course they are fans who welcome SJ-M to China and wrote "Anticipating you all to perform with flying colors! SJ-M jiayou!".

Because of this situation, Han Geng yesterday made a response: "About the creation of SJ-M, there are people who oppose and there are people who support. What we have to do is to continue to work hard. We prepared this for a long time and will give our best to everyone. At the same time, we also need everyone's support and care. When I was in Korea, I was cared by a lot of the other Super Junior members, we're like family. Now, I'm taking 6 friends back home, I'm really happy and I hope we can get everyone's support." SJ-M's Korean members all used simple Chinese phrases to say hi to everyone. From here you can see SJ-M has preparation for the Chinese market.

But the fans opposition still has not rested. Whether or not SJ-M will create something big like Super Junior, only time will tell.

Credits: BeiFang Online, Lucy@FLAWLESS for translations
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