[lilcece]

Rikayla, jennskie, and joycestar0821
AWESOME graphics you guys. they're H.O.T ^^

How can you claim that you are a fan of Henry or Zhoumi when they haven't really debut? You don't even know if they can sing well, dance well, or a great entertainer? The only time I saw Henry was as a violin player on Don't Don't! Whether he plays the violin well, I can't even tell. Who knows if that is live? Also Zhoumi, so far, I don't have a good impression of him. I saw him at the ZLY's album showcase. He seems too cocky to me. That's not really SJ's image. My mind is not going to be changed unless they prove otherwise.

The other five we know, because they are part of Super Junior! We know their talent and have been acknowledged for more than 2 years! I agree with a lot of folks, only these five: Hangeng, Ryeowook, Donghae, Siwon, and Kyuhyun are allowed to be associated with the name "Super Junior"! One comment that I read from a fan after she saw the image, cracks me up "The two are porters for the other five!".

For the so call fans of Henry and Zhoumi, don't have to be angry. Internet is free, we get to say what we want, and state our own opinion.

exactly. how can you judge them when they haven't even debut it yet? some of you
guys say that but are already turning into antis without even seeing both ZhouMi &
Henry offically debut. as for me, I don't know anything about ZhouMi, but the reason
why Henry is growing on me is because he actually has talent. whenever he has to
perform, he goes up on stage KNOWING that he has antis. not only that, he plays
with a lot of emotions with his violin and instead of giving up, he only push himself
forward.

The banner doesn't break the rules,
if it breaks your heart, that's another thing.
H & ZM break my heart in SJM, so we're even.

Zhou Mi
i think he so cute but i don't like him T^T

Super Junior only 13!!

aaa so handsomee ><
only donghae siwon hangeng kyuhyun and ryeowook ^^
only super junior ^^

so how about we not get this started again alright?



A REMINDER TO BOTH ONLY13 & SJ-M SUPPORTERS...

okay, I seriously need to get this off my chest. I've been trying to hold this in, but guys...

in case some of you haven't notice, this is Super Junior M thread. everyone and anyone can post here...
but it has to be SJM related. I admit, I'm pro ONLY13 but I have absolutely nothing against Henry or Zhou
Mi. as for my opinion on them becoming part of SUJU, I'm still a little uncertain and won't worry about that
until the time comes when SM himself ACTUALLY announce it. but as an E.L.F fan, I find it immature that
some of you are chanting "ONLY13" towards these two, especially in this thread where it's been confirm
that SJM is not Only5. whether you guys like it or not, it is official that Zhou Mi and Henry are debuting as
SUJU-M with the other five, so what can we do about it besides turning against each other and like what
Wendy said, making this situation into WWIII? I mean I understand how you guys feel about this new sub
group. some of you are excited. some of you are angry. some of you are even confused like I am. we can
clearly see who are strongly ONLY13 or SJ-M supporters just by looking at their signatures or comments
on this thread. I know there are a lot of antis here and people who are totally against Henry and Zhou Mi. I
completely have nothing against how you all feel... you guys have the rights to say anything you don't like
and negative about Super Junior M, if it makes you feel better.

JUST. NOT. HERE.

DO NOT post it here. feel free to do it through PMs, on another thread, in another forum, with your friends &
families. anywhere, but here. if possible, I just wish antis at the SUJU-M blog would stop what they're doing.
yeah, this is driving E.L.F crazy but why put all that hate and anger on Henry and Zhou Mi?! Hangeng, Siwon,
Donghae, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun's feeling matter just as much as E.L.F. do these antis even stop to think
about how the 5 of them feel when seeing these stuff written all over the blog a few days before their debut?
that's just pressuring them more, especially coming from us E.L.F. since we mean EVERYTHING to these
boys... it's not only uncomfortable for them, but for the rest of us too. I see a billion of viewers on this thread,
but I'm sure some of us are afriad or feel really uncomfortable to post here because of these disagreement
about whether Super Junior M should be this or that. if anyone should be blamed, it should be SM himself.
he's the one that's making us all go WT-?! therefore, go to Korea and bash him instead - -

so please. ONLY13 supporters, stop bashing on Henry and ZhouMi. Super Junior M supporters, stop telling
everyone that you want Henry and Zhou Mi in Super Junior. do not come here if you're going to be immature
and post 'ONLY13', making everyone feel uncomfortable. as for SuJu-M supporters, please do not go over to
the Super Junior thread and talk about Henry, Zhou Mi, or adding new members. in addition to signatures, as
long as it's following the soompi rules, don't tell them what their signature should look like. if you feel anyone
breaking the rules, complain it to the moderators. this is a really sensitive topic for us E.L.F, SJ-M, AND Super
Junior. the three of us did NOTHING wrong so again, if you want to rant your anger or blame anyone, please
complain to Lee Soo Man himself. I do not want this thread to shut down because some of you decide to be
immature and decide to bash on our artists. as of right now, we are all anxious about SJ-M's debut & nothing
eles & about the rumors (addition to Super Junior members, Zhou Mi's personality, etc), they will continue to
stay as rumor- so Super Junior M supporters, let's ignore antis and support the seven boys, alright?

Thank you.

[Seadajinx]

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THank god thats what i wanna say the most go bashin' somewhere else ,but no here!

(LMAO.this thread has been stalkin' by lots of ppl )

[miridia]

*FLAIL* SJM!!!!!

Henry and Zhou Mi. *o*;;;

I was a bit iffy about this but now, I'm kind of excited for a debut? xD I'm just curious as to what they come up with. Besides, they're lookin' good in those new photos in the first post. <333 Shiwon looks beautiful. *o*;;

[abercrombiegirl]

i have a question? so are Henry and Zhou Mi in the group Super Junior? or are they only in Super Junior-M?

and i have to say, Henry is pretty cute!!!
I feel bad for him, cause he have gone throught such harship.
hope he can over come those hardship

Super Junior fighting!!!

love always,
Kitty

[kaizer21]

i have a question? so are Henry and Zhou Mi in the group Super Junior? or are they only in Super Junior-M?

As far as I know, Zhoumi and Henry are only a part of Super Junior-M, not Super Junior.

- 영운

[xoxoroo]

ahh, I feel so bad for Henry!
even though I'm pro-only13, I don't think people should be so rude to him :/
ever since he was in don't don, people have been really mean to him T-T.
&& I don't really know what to say about zhoumi...

I really hate how the only13 people take it out on zhoumi and henry, because as someone said before, it's not really their fault. mr. sm's gonna do whatever he wants, whether or not henry/zhoumi want to do it or not. >_>

and guys, is zhoumi's personality really that bad? because he's not gonna fit into suju-m [i don't want him or henry to be in the original suju] if it's really as bad as everyone says.

anyways..

Best Pants - Ryeowook
Best Hair - Henry/wookie - I like the color xD
Best Outfit - DONGHAE<3 :)
Best Pose - Ryeowook - his pose is so adorable
Best Facial expression - Donghae again<3
Best OVERALL - Ryeowook :D

[Jamieâ„¢]

and guys, is zhoumi's personality really that bad? because he's not gonna fit into suju-m [i don't want him or henry to be in the original suju] if it's really as bad as everyone says.

I don't understand where this rumor is coming from. unless anyone on this forum actually knows him, then how the heck do we know if his personality is bad or not. oh, and someone mentioned that he was cocky at zly's showcase.. umm were we watching the same vid? he may not have been a very good MC, but not once did I feel he was giving off an arrogant vibe.

[LindySzeto]

Judge SJ-M after their debut please?

I'm looking forward to their debut. Henry and Zhoumi deserves a chance. No one knows them personally and no one knows their intial potentials, yet. Actually, even when they debut, no one could possibly know how far or well Henry or Zhoumi can go concerning their talents. Henry already blew a lot of people away with his violin.

[riribl]

Yeah, I don't understand too why some people judge Henry and Joo Myuk only based on the rumours
Just wait they debut, and all of us will know what their personalities, talents, etc like

And I agree to lilcece, although I'm not really into to SJ-M supporter, trying to be neutral, but somehow several ONLY 13 posts and how some people judge & blame them (Zhou Mi & Henry) even before they debut make me feel irritated
It's not their fault they are in SJ-M. They are picked by LSM =.=

Just wait until they debut
I can't wait until their MV comes out XDD

[kellyalster]

This is my first time posting on any Super Junior thread...ever. So if what I'm putting here is wrong, don't hurt me, I'll fix it. And...hi.

I don't know if it's been posted here yet, but I posted it on Zhou Mi's thread. skyoflovee on YouTube put up some videos of him, if you're curious about his abilities:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QxOoo-gNq84 -- He talks and sings 流沙 Liu Sha by David Tao. He talks really fast, so I can't understand much.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os3SznnJHOA -- He sings 愛的就是你 Ai de jiu shi ni by Leehom Wang and 流沙 again. Haha he's so giddy on stage.

He's actually not bad. I like his taste in music. (David Tao is my hero.) I'm sure he's trained a lot since 2004, so he's probably tons better. About his personality, I don't know, I don't care...a lot of popular and/or talented people out there are jerks, it's a fact of life. I just say...don't worry about it yet. It's not fair to judge him based on his presence at ZLY's debut thinger or his performance from a whole FOUR years ago.

Just chill because SJM is going to happen whether you like it or not.

[kamoku]

awesome super junior debuted on my cousins bday
and SJM is gonna debut on my bday
hangeng seems so excited for sjm
so i'm looking forward to it
and i can't wait to see/hear violin boy henry sing
or can he rap?

Best Pants: ryeowook - everyone has either weird or tight looking pants o.o
Best Hair: henry - it looks so fluffy and i wanna pet it
Best Outfit: ryeowook
Best Pose: siwon
Best Facial Expression: siwon
Best Overall: ryeowook lol he's not even my fav but he reminds me of jaejoong looks good in the pic
i'll wait till they debut to put out my opinions on them

[XxAznZtatXx]

Well said lilcece ^^

At first I was like "no way, I don't want this to happen xO " since I'm also a SJ fan, but now when I actually think about it, I'm really looking forward to SJ-M. I feel bad that some people won't buy their products just because they're ONLY 13. Even though the members will know the reason why, wouldn't it break their hearts that their first debut in China is a failure, though I feel they'll somehow succeed. I support them and can't wait for their album! ^^

Best Pants - Ryeowook
Best Hair - Henry
Best Outfit - Donghae
Best Pose - Ryeowook?
Best Facial expression - Siwon
Best OVERALL - Siwon

[La'MISS:fairy]

The Internet is a place for freedom of expression. Unfortunately or not, this is a forum and there are rules to be followed. And whether your posts literally state it or not, some of them obviously scream 'ONLY13!!' pretty loudly.

No matter what, people will never stop talking about this issue,
and be brats and report certain people for something ridiculous too.

You have to deal with it at this point.

I've told people to stop arguing numerous times,
but all of you continued to do whatever you want.





Oh, I can't wait for them to debut.

[Storytime]

Jeez, some of the ONLY13 and ANTI-SJM comments are really . It's one thing if you're not going to support them, it's another to have sickening banners to go along with it. SUJU would probably be disappointed to have fans like that.

Anyhow, I do hope SJM gets their chance to shine. It may not have been the best decision to add Henry and Zhou Mi, but there's no reason for anyone to dispise them when they haven't even seen their capabilities. I'm going to keep a positive outlook for when they debut.

[viv_smi98]

I just say...don't worry about it yet. It's not fair to judge him based on his presence at ZLY's debut thinger or his performance from a whole FOUR years ago.

Yeah, I agree. I think if Zhoumi really does have a bad personality, it'll become obvious sooner rather than later.

These guys already have enough pressure, all 7 of them, so let's try make it as easy as possible for them ALL at this point. I hate that it came this far, but it's done now. So let's be gracious about it. Because kicking and screaming have never solved anything.

[strawberry78]

This is my first time posting on any Super Junior thread...ever. So if what I'm putting here is wrong, don't hurt me, I'll fix it. And...hi.

I don't know if it's been posted here yet, but I posted it on Zhou Mi's thread. skyoflovee on YouTube put up some videos of him, if you're curious about his abilities:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QxOoo-gNq84 -- He talks and sings 流沙 Liu Sha by David Tao. He talks really fast, so I can't understand much.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os3SznnJHOA -- He sings 愛的就是你 Ai de jiu shi ni by Leehom Wang and 流沙 again. Haha he's so giddy on stage.

He's actually not bad. I like his taste in music. (David Tao is my hero.) I'm sure he's trained a lot since 2004, so he's probably tons better. About his personality, I don't know, I don't care...a lot of popular and/or talented people out there are jerks, it's a fact of life. I just say...don't worry about it yet. It's not fair to judge him based on his presence at ZLY's debut thinger or his performance from a whole FOUR years ago.

Just chill because SJM is going to happen whether you like it or not.

Thanks, I hadn't seen the first video before. I like his voice, it sounds nice~ =)
Wow, all that was 4 years ago?? The way people were talking about it, I thought it had been more recent...
So yeah I think after 4 years, there's no way he can't have NOT improved. I mean I don't think SM would throw in some incompetent noob and hope for the best... I'm sure there were other potentials, but Zhoumi had to have been chosen for a reason ^^
Once we get to see him, I don't think I'll be disappointed... and hopefully it will become clear to others as well.

Weeee the MV comes out tomorrow!!! Taking its merry little time.....
Once it's all out I can breathe a sigh of relief~~

awesome super junior debuted on my cousins bday
and SJM is gonna debut on my bday
hangeng seems so excited for sjm
so i'm looking forward to it
and i can't wait to see/hear violin boy henry sing
or can he rap?

I wonder if he WILL do the rap, which there's bound to be. O__O
Who else would do it, Donghae? Hmm..

[kyndoodle]

Jeez, some of the ONLY13 and ANTI-SJM comments are really . It's one thing if you're not going to support them, it's another to have sickening banners to go along with it. SUJU would probably be disappointed to have fans like that.

I totally agree with you. Not only are some of them offensive, but I would interpret them almost as being a death threat, so how is it ok to have them??? Since when is it legal to threaten to kill someone? Not to mention it's just plain immature, yet they are the same ones calling everyone else immature.

I hope they do well, and I hope Zhoumi and Henry also become active members of Super Junior as well as SUJU M. I applaud them both for continuing with their debut, even though they have so many ignorant people against them. If I was a Super Junior member, I would be embarrassed to have fans like these.


Oh....and BTW. Report me, ban me, whatever. I don't care. If everyone else can state their opinions against them, then I feel I should be able to state my strong opinions FOR them, but if you feel you must be immature and report me, then whatever. And seeing as our Mods for the most part seem to be against them (which seems a little biased to me) then I'm expecting it anyway. At least I get my say first. And also, for those of you who don't have a life other than sending people nasty PM's who say something you don't agree with, you'll just be wasting your time sending them to me nasty because I NEVER read them. I will just automatically block you.

[martysmiths]

Remember people: "DON"T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME."

I would like to know what game we're playing and when did we start playing it? Who are the players exactly? Is it a game between the PRO-13 folks and the SJM supporters? Who started this game anyway? And doesn't anybody find it awkward that we're angry at each other instead of the GREEDY SM WHO STARTED THIS ALL.

Remember people: "Don't go blaming me when somebody dies in his sleep."

[JJ.exot5ia]

No matter what, people will never stop talking about this issue,
and be brats and report certain people for something ridiculous too.
You have to deal with it at this point.
I've told people to stop arguing numerous times,
but all of you continued to do whatever you want.
Oh, I can't wait for them to debut.

i love you so much <3333333 you just make my day!
unlike most people~

and yes i'm sooooo excited for their debut~
and i'm soooooo going to support them like crazy~

again, i point out that this thread was made so that we can DISCUSS
our opinions on SUJUM because we can't in the main SUJU thread, so
ANY opinions concerning sujuM is fine. now you might think you see
something hidden in our comments, but who knows, maybe most of
you need glasses? did you ever see OMG I HATE HATE HENRY AND ZM?
nop~ so you have no right to blame us. people have opinions, just like
you are a supporter and we are supporters of a different kind~

donghae is hot <3

ps. oh do i see sickening banners~ i see sickening pictures too~ all over
this thread~ the only non sickening ones are the banners that i obviously
adore!

-Rebecca

[bbSooyoung]

Well said, lilcece, I completely agree.
I'm not going to say anything else though, I hope Henry and Zhou Mi are doing good. <3

I'm really excited to hear Henry sing, sakjfkasjfas <333 I wonder if he'll be doing rapping too? Hehe, i'm like dyinggg of anticipation, seriously, I'm extreeemlely excited for their chinese version of U.

Tonight, they're releasing Ryeowook and Zhou Mi's pictures right?