[j o y spill!&;]

This will most likely be the only time I ever post in this thread, so I might as well say what i want.
One thing about the whole ONLY13 v.s PRO-SujuM is that alot of people on both sides aren't being open minded.
I am a ONLY13 member, I do support Suju-M;ONLY5. But I still keep an open mind toward the Suju-M/Henry/ZhouMi supporters.
I accept the fact that not everyone is going to support 13. I try my best to understand where non-13 supporters are coming from.
Sure, why should we be so angry at SM? i mean, he's only exposing Suju to China. And sure, 13's already big why not throw two other guys in it and it'll all be dandy with even more guys to fan girl over.
But we ONLY13 supports have our own reasons as to why we are only13.
And unless other people are not going to be open minded and try to understand where we're coming from, it'll never truly be understood why we stand by ELF & ONLY13.
And I don't see the point in arguing with other people who aren't going to even try to understand and think the entire world is going to run on their one-way street.
And funny thing is, I've met some ONLY13 supporters who didn't support ONLY13 for Super Junior, but were supporting it in an attempt to see Henry out of Super Junior and maybe even as a soloist or in a new original group. I don't know anything about Zhou Mi or Henry, but I give them a limit of respect. To be a trainee and to make it into SM must have been damn hard. And they deserve respect for that. If I get quoted by someone and replied to, most likely they're not going to understand what I'm trying to say. Simpler words may be needed, but oh well. I don't think I can do that.



And apparently, opinions are being banned on Soompi.
Oooh. A page top. How lucky.

[Panda17]

kellyalster i listened to some songs he sand in chinese.. and it's actually pretty good.. he is really confident that's why SM made him the MC for jang riin's new album conference.. he's cute ^^ sorry i don't know when it was taken.. by the looks of it probably recent years.. so he probably got better ^-^

i can't wait to see their new MV.. i really want to hear henry sing.. i mean he had less than 2 years of training and he already debuted.. he must be really good =D

I know! Thats what makes Henry so interesting at least to me. That guy is like a box of suprises. I mean his singing must be really something to be debuting just like that. His violin skills, the dancing, I'm just so curious. And he's the youngest one in the group. How cute. I'm loving him more and more

Lol, if time would just go by faster, I just want it to be April 8th already. I'm gonna watch that MV over and over.

But I'll admit, Zhoumi is getting me to. Like you guys said, his confidence and that fact both him and Henry can get on that stage knowing that they have anti's is like -wow- they have guts and the talent to pull it off.

[aznscrewball]

^ I think I remember my friend saying that Henry is really good at singing too.

[plurals]

PSH the hip thrust in the Don't Don vid was betterXDXDXD

Honestly, I'm a little worn out reading all these arguments.

We should formally establish the difference between Only13 and extremists.

If you compare those two well yeah. Don't don thrust are was extremer. U=Kindergartener, Dondon=Highschooler

Aren't we all.

There's always extremists in every side of a polarizing matter. Nothing anyone can do about it. just have to try to take it with humor.

Wow Zhoumi is a few weeks younger than siwon. He looks a bit older. Although i expected him to be younger (87er/88er) for some reason.

[Jamieâ„¢]

hey guys~ i found a clip of zhoumi singing in english <3 granted... his pronunciation is off.. but who cares.. he's gonna sing in chinese.. he have a pretty voice! <3

have a look here!

LOL zhoumi's English is so bad, that it's cute
his voice isn't very strong, but he has a nice tone

I love all the sarcasm. it's great.

[strawberry78]

hey guys~ i found a clip of zhoumi singing in english <3 granted... his pronunciation is off.. but who cares.. he's gonna sing in chinese.. he have a pretty voice! <3

have a look here!

translation



credits to suxing@sjchina livejournal

Wow I really love his voice there! So beautiful!!
Sure the pronunciation was a little off but it was kind of endearing. (to me at least)
Not like he has any reason to be perfectly fluent in english either~
I can't wait to hear him sing moreeee!
Thanks for sharing the translation, too. ^^

[dcleo1515]

I would like to know what game we're playing and when did we start playing it? Who are the players exactly? Is it a game between the PRO-13 folks and the SJM supporters? Who started this game anyway? And doesn't anybody find it awkward that we're angry at each other instead of the GREEDY SM WHO STARTED THIS ALL.

Remember people: "Don't go blaming me when somebody dies in his sleep."

What I meant about "The Game" was the circumstances in which all of this is happening. I see so many people blaming and bashing Henry and Zhoumi for something they have no control over. People are passing judgment before they even debut and I think that sad. A lot of ONLY13 or Anti-SJM people are making it sound as if Henry and Zhoumi forced LSM to put them in the group. If you understand how the music business works, you'd know that they have signed a legal document known as a contract which legally binds them to SM Entertainment. I am assuming under the legal document they have no say in which direction their careers are going right now.

"The Players" are the members of SJM, Super Junior, and also the fans. The LSM and company are like the referees and the commissioner of the league and he has all the control and everyone else is playing by his rules. I'm just saying don't hate on those that don't have any power because they can't change anything that's going on right now. It's not about ONLY13 fans against SJM supporters because that's not what is important right now. So don't get my words twist, Alright?

I just wished people wouldn't be so closed minded and just gave them a chance to show us what they've got. I know none of you would like it if someone passed judgment on you before they even had the chance to meet you. All I'm saying is give them a chance because you might be missing on something special. If we did that maybe there wouldn't be so much animosity.


Your "Don't go blaming me when somebody dies in his sleep." comment is creepy and disturbing. You should really think about what you say sometimes because all it does is make people think there's somethings wrong with you. Death isn't something to joke around about especially when you are implying MURDER, which I hope you are not hoping for any harm to be done to any of the members of SJM because I'm starting to question your morals. As a fan, even if you may not agree with something don't wish harm on others. At the end of the day were all human beings, well most of us are.

[JunEunHae<3]

*treads through the arguments carefully* I'm just here to show some support for my 5 boys!
Loving their new looks!!
Geng looks super hot with his leather jacket, he definitely has the whole bad boy vibe going..and how
Siwon don't know how I feel about the hair just yet but I'm looking forward to hearing more of his voice.. he underestimates his own singing potential but i love it... plus I wonder if he's going to do that hand move after his line lol.. I remember how all the boys were imitating him in Full House!
DongHae my love..i'm going to be in EunHae<3 withdrawal but his picture is so cute- i spy a little forHAEd!!!..ha! and his shoes remind me of Hyuk !!
Also, is he going to be the main Rapper?!?
KyuMangnae..looks so charismatic!his classic slouchy pose...the boy is all man now..but he's all yours 13!La'MISS:fairy However, his amazing voice needs to be shared with the whole wide world..i've never heard anything more soothing than when he sang Dahlpengee<3
RyeoWookie ilu..why are you so cute?!?! i love his style and his pose...ohh...and its been a while since I've seen his signature shoulder move

[thealien.]

Im going to ignore all this DRAMA (if i can call it that)
Because I myself is a supporter of ONLY13 and SJ-M;
but like lilcece said; im still a lil bit confused;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QxOoo-gNq84 -- He talks and sings 流沙 Liu Sha by David Tao. He talks really fast, so I can't understand much.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os3SznnJHOA -- He sings 愛的就是你 Ai de jiu shi ni by Leehom Wang and 流沙 again. Haha he's so giddy on stage.

He's a good singer; lol.
when he's performing on stage; his looks catches yours ;or maybe just mine; ATTENTION;
rofl;

hey guys~ i found a clip of zhoumi singing in english <3 granted... his pronunciation is off.. but who cares.. he's gonna sing in chinese.. he have a pretty voice! <3

lmao; his pronounciation isnt really that perfect;
but HEY! atleast he tried; -keke-

Can we all make this thread LIVELY with more HAPPY COMMENTS? =)

[inconnu!*]

Wow, I have such a big headache scrolling past all these arguments.

If you dont like what you see, please just scroll down and dont bother reading it.

Let people express their opinions but if it gets way out of hand, report it to the mod. Both ONLY 13 supporters
along with SUJU-M supporters are stubborn. This argument isnt going no where. Do you guys really want to see
this thread get closed down? >__>

Agreed.

The dance for U MV should be different than the Korean one, right? Well, I hope so, and a lil hip thrust would be mad sexy too.

Puahhaa. Hankyung does very... very sexy hip thrusts ;D

[i KITTY x3 =)*]

are they dancing at an airport in the caps? lol


hae's pose just screams rape me

and i shall.

[drewdo]

The banner doesn't break the rules,
if it breaks your heart, that's another thing.
H & ZM break my heart in SJM, so we're even.


GAIA최고!▬♡ 나를 봐, G규짱 says:
it's 357 x 187
what was NOT used in width
was added to the height
and if you subtract 175 from 187
which is 12
and add it up to 357
it doesn't even reach 400
I've had BIGGER banners
[X] - XYZ; says:
oh, i didn't know you can do that XD
GAIA최고!▬♡ 나를 봐, G규짱 says:
no one ever stated it
but it's logical.
it's also only 35k
and they allow 40k

Ah, OK. I didn't know that you can do that keke.
I'm a suju listener but i'm not a total SuJu fan so this whole 13 and SJ-M thing is none of my concern.
as long as it's great music i'm ok

[mintiful]

cute ryeowook.

[inconnu!*]

^ Is it just me or does Ryeowook's hand gesture seem... awkward? o_O And the shoes make him look so
puny ... Hahha its like almost the size of his face, hahahhaa.

[YnNhiTrn]

Aah~ I really think Ryeowook look nice~. The others too, like Henry~, they look good too~<3. ^__^

Aah~, I really wish that Henry and Zhou Mi could have debuted elsewhere for their own sakes, lol. But I'm willing to cheer them all the way unless SJM's music really sucks. XD; But even then, their personalities will probably make up for it.

[The Zhou Mi rumors... I'll see if they're true myself. But I like his voice already even if his english completely fails. Now only Henry's voice is left to check out. ^^]

Since I didn't see it posted, I'm putting up Zhou Mi's picture, okay? ^__^

His face... is really too much like Shiwonnie's! XD

Feel free to hotlink? I'll just reup, but I'm sure it won't come to that? XD

[As a person, please treat him kindly? XD; If he proves to be a jerk, then of course, who can argue against facts~? Let's wait until then? lol, I'm terrified of many of you~]

[Duckie5464]

^ Is it just me or does Ryeowook's hand gesture seem... awkward? o_O And the shoes make him look so
puny ... Hahha its like almost the size of his face, hahahhaa.

LOL I don't notice that (his shoe is almost the size of his face). Overall I think he have the best pose and the cutest. He just stands out.

I just hope SJM will be a success and I can't wait to see the MV. Wonder who will do the rapping part since Eunhyuk and Kibum won't be doing it.

Probably Donghae...???

[lavenderwingz]

why does ryeowook shoes look so big on him?? o.O i dunno if it's the color of the shoe w/ the background color of the pic, but it makes him look really small..teehee


i love all their outfits for suju-m!! but henry's trousers looks a lil weir don him..or is that me??

[Panda17]

Lol, I was just about to post the Zhoumi and Ryeowook pics but they are already posted.

Thanks YnNhiTrn for Zhoumi's pic. Personally, I thought he looked the best out of all. Ryeowook looks cute himself too.

[5imply_5wt]

周觅: 大家好吗? 我是SJ-M的周觅.

作为中国人,在祖国出道向大家问候我非常地高兴.

我会努力的,还请大家多多关注我哟~

Zhoumi: How's everyone? I am SJ-M's Zhoumi. Since i am chinese, i am very happy to introduce myself to my country. I will try my hardest, i hope everyone will like me.

려욱: 안녕하세요? 슈퍼주니어-M 려욱입니다.

중국에서 슈퍼주니어-M으로 새롭게 데뷔한다고 생각하니 무척 떨리네요.

중국 팬 여러분! 4월 8일에 만나요~

厉旭:大家好吗? 我是SJ-M的厉旭.

只要一想到这样在中国以SJ-M的身份重新出道我就无比地激动.

中国的歌迷们! 我们4月8号见喽~

Ryeowook: how's everyone doing? i'm SJ-M's Ryeowook

just at the thought of debuting in china as a SJ-M member makes me very excited
Hello chinese fans!.. we'll be seeing each other on April the 8th~



pictures credit as tagged

[Gunfire]

Super HOT.
I love Hae. I drool over him, and I must add that I love his shoes. LOL.
I love RyeoWook and Henry's poses. Kinda awkward but hot. Hahah.
I really can't wait for their debut. OMG. Henry, you're so young.