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#1 User is offline   maurreal 

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Post icon  Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:20 PM

Hi, i'm a junior in high school trying to figure out what major i should take in college.

Lot's of computer-related majors deal heavily with math and science yet don't seem to have anything to do with computers.

I'm looking for a major that deals MORE with computers itself and something not so heavy in the math/sciences. I already know basic programming languages like HTML, css, XHTML, and creating my own flash websites.

This major also needs to be in-demand and with reasonable pay. I also don't want to end up with a job that would get outsourced to third-world countries.

I'd appreciate any suggestions you guys might have for me smile.gif
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:42 PM

Computer Information Systems with a concentration in Application Software Development or Internet Programming and Security. I'm not in this major but the former deals with C++ programming, basic server development, and java. The latter sounds more to your liking, which can involve media development and web site design/construction.
As for the job-outlook for this major...I don't really know. =P
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#3 User is offline   maurreal 

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (thermopyle @ Apr 1 2008, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Computer Information Systems with a concentration in Application Software Development or Internet Programming and Security. I'm not in this major but the former deals with C++ programming, basic server development, and java. The latter sounds more to your liking, which can involve media development and web site design/construction.
As for the job-outlook for this major...I don't really know. =P


hmm... is computer information systems and information technology almost the same? O_O i'm a little concerned about the jobs being outsourced in the future, from what i hear >< mmm what other major would allow me to work more on software programming?
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:16 PM

QUOTE (maurreal @ Apr 1 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, i'm a junior in high school trying to figure out what major i should take in college.

Lot's of computer-related majors deal heavily with math and science yet don't seem to have anything to do with computers.

I'm looking for a major that deals MORE with computers itself and something not so heavy in the math/sciences. I already know basic programming languages like HTML, css, XHTML, and creating my own flash websites.

This major also needs to be in-demand and with reasonable pay. I also don't want to end up with a job that would get outsourced to third-world countries.

I'd appreciate any suggestions you guys might have for me smile.gif


do you have an example of which computer related majors deal with more math? as far as i know, you'll spend no more than 20~25% of your coursework in pure math/science courses for Computer Science (software) or Electrical Engineering (hardware). There are other engineering disciplines that use computing but are not based on it, like bio-medical engineering, but my guess is that you're nowhere near interested in this type of field.

The only thing you really mention are light programming scripts, so I'm gonna assume you'll be taking the software engineering route. A lot of software/IT jobs are being outsourced, but lately, it has slowed down to do the decreasing value of the dollar. it's more expensive to outsource while we're in a recession and the US Dollar is losing value internationally. But despite jobs being outsourced, tech is still alive and growing.

As for in-demand and reasonable pay, that really comes down to when you graduate. Tech should be doing all right 5~6 years from now. There's should be a high influx of new jobs as well as new grads by then. Depending on the quality of those grads, the pay might be good or bad. But in general, tech pays well enough to support a middle class lifestyle. Current grads fresh out of college earn roughly 50K USD on average. The salary should follow inflation pretty well, and if tech booms, money should be flowing. Chances of a bust are less after 2000, but there is also the danger of a deflating tech sector after such a boom.

Anyways, the tech-cycle keeps spinning. Those who can get the job done will survive the hard times and thrive in the good times. Simple as that.

Knowing how to make static websites are a good start, but there's so much more to it. If you're working with flash, get acquainted with actionscript. It should make life a bit easier once you take programming courses in college.

[edit] IT and CIS are used interchangeably among universities/colleges. Often times, schools will associate IT with engineering and CIS with the business school, but really, it's just a label.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 05:59 AM

QUOTE (thermopyle @ Apr 2 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Computer Information Systems with a concentration in Application Software Development or Internet Programming and Security. I'm not in this major but the former deals with C++ programming, basic server development, and java. The latter sounds more to your liking, which can involve media development and web site design/construction.
As for the job-outlook for this major...I don't really know. =P



hey, that's what im majoring in right now.


My only problem with this major is that I have to take Accounting. I like math but not when it's combine with words and in a sentence. Lol. And the class they recommended me are so pointless. Such as History. If they were teaching the history of business and computer, then yea that make sense but I have to take something about Western or World.

So yea, this major is really what that person said. It's really more toward both computer & business.


As for jobs, my co-worker's boyfriend is in this field and she said he make loads of cash and he's now in charge of the company he's working in.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:11 AM

I'm majoring in Computer Science and I have taken every Math course in my Uni.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 09:00 PM

yeah i heard computer science is really intense like a lot of people drop out of it too >-< thats why i'm so hesitant even thinking about taking it...
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 09:33 PM

yeah i'm confused like some other people here. Computer oriented majors is usually just computer science. For CS you usually only have to take a few math classes: linear algebra/differential equations, probability/discrete math, and algorithms. I know most cs programs use these classes are prerequisites to more concentrated fields in cs.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE (visuelz @ Apr 3 2008, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm majoring in Computer Science and I have taken every Math course in my Uni.


your university must not have very many math courses then
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 12:19 AM

Higher level programming requires a good amount of understanding in higher level math; such as Linear Algebra. It also requires high level problem-solving skills & logic. I'd suggest starting now and trying to become good at problem-solving and math. It's never too late.

Being able to translate thoughts/ideas into mathematical formulas and coherent code --> making algorithms =p. That is at the heart of Computer Science/Engineering.

As said the stuff you listed is extremely light in terms of coding. I'd suggest looking at C++, Java (not Javascript), C# etc. those languages and becoming familiar with them. However, if you don't want so much dealing with the math/sciences. Go for a technical college like Devry and learn how to make the stuff you want. Such as websites and what-not.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE (AngeloDS @ Apr 5 2008, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Higher level programming requires a good amount of understanding in higher level math; such as Linear Algebra. It also requires high level problem-solving skills & logic. I'd suggest starting now and trying to become good at problem-solving and math. It's never too late.

Being able to translate thoughts/ideas into mathematical formulas and coherent code --> making algorithms =p. That is at the heart of Computer Science/Engineering.

As said the stuff you listed is extremely light in terms of coding. I'd suggest looking at C++, Java (not Javascript), C# etc. those languages and becoming familiar with them. However, if you don't want so much dealing with the math/sciences. Go for a technical college like Devry and learn how to make the stuff you want. Such as websites and what-not.



I agree.
Also tech jobs will always be around in the U.S. Of course jobs will be outsourced, but that doesn't mean there isn't always going to be a demand for them here as well. The type of work you are looking for seems to be similar to a webmaster's. If that's what you want to do, there are several webmasters who are good at what they do and make a decent amount of money. Then I'd suggest self-learning as many languages as you can, particularly web-scripting languages and databases (MySql). You will probably also want to be comfortable with the Linux operating system, as that is what Apache servers run on.
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