[ShyGSTGurl]

Hi I've been hearing about this analytical writing placement examination that will be held on May 10th all over California. Does passing this test mean the same thing as passing the AP exam? Which means we will get college credit? If so isn't there no point if we've already passed the ELC requirements?

All students who will enter the University of California directly from California high schools in fall of 2008 must take the Universitywide Analytical Writing Placement Examination unless by April 1, 2008, the University has on record for them a test score that satisfies the Entry Level Writing requirement:

* 30 or better on the ACT Combined English/Writing test; or
* 680 or better on the College Board SAT-II Writing Test; or
* 680 or better on the College Board SAT Reasoning Test, Writing section; or
* 3, 4 or 5 on either Advanced Placement (AP) Examination in English; or
* 5 or above on an International Baccalaureate High Level English A exam
* 6 or above on an International Baccalaureate Standard Level English A exam

I fulfilled the bolded requirement.

[Aozora122]

It's not the same as passing the AP exam and you don't get college credit for passing it. It's just a placement test that you have to take to determine whether or not your writing is at college-level. If you take a class that say has a writing GE, if you don't pass the writing placement test, you don't get the writing GE for that class. You also need to meet the requirement if you plan to take any intro English class and passing it is required for a number of classes as well. You get a couple of tries to pass the test but if you don't, you'll have to take workload English. You'll probably have to take placement examinations in math and chemistry too if you want to take any of those classes, which you would take during orientation or at the beginning of fall quarter. You should have received a letter by now, or will soon, from the university telling you whether or not you have to take the exam. Since you said that you already satisfied the requirement with a 680 or higher on the writing portion of the SAT, you shouldn't have to take it. If you did, you'd have to pay like $65 and lose a saturday morning right after a week of AP testing. I got a 660 on the writing portion so I missed the cutoff by just 20 points Just make sure that the university has and confirms your SAT scores and other scores like the ACT if you took it and any AP exams. I've had a few issues with the university not having my academic records correct so save yourself the trouble and make sure that they are correct before school starts. I hope this helps!

[cee-es-jay]

* 30 or better on the ACT Combined English/Writing test; or
* 680 or better on the College Board SAT-II Writing Test; or
* 680 or better on the College Board SAT Reasoning Test, Writing section
* 3, 4 or 5 on either Advanced Placement (AP) Examination in English; or
* 5 or above on an International Baccalaureate High Level English A exam
* 6 or above on an International Baccalaureate Standard Level English A exam

i was so relieved when i found out that i didn't have to take it. whew!

[jinnyblue]

gosh darn it. lol i think i got 670 on my written portion for sats. now i have to fork over 65 bucks to take it cuz of 10 measly stinking points... grr >=/

[hungrycollegeboy]

I'm lucky I passed the AP Exam. My roommate didn't and he had to take 2 extra classes and a writing lab to be considered "at" college level writing.

So, save yourself some time and money by doing well on those AP tests

[bBy_sT4r]

i've already fulfilled it with my SAT score~
thank goodness

[vc1188]

I don't know about the other UCs, but at UCI, if you pass the AWPE or have already met the requirements (680+ on SAT writing etc.) you can skip the first course in a three-part writing series. But yeah, besides that kind of a perk, there are no other benefits really.

I didn't have to take it, but all of the people around me who took it HATED it. There's only one part to the AWPE-- an essay. And I think you get something like.. three hours to write it.

For those who will be taking it, definitely check out this for sample essays for each score.

[WendiiE]

is the writing test worst than the SAT/ACT writing? because my writing skills are not that good.

[x teehee]

I'm not really sure if I need to take it or not...has everyone who needs to take it already gotten notification? I haven't received anything

[l0vel0vek0rean]

Ahhhh you're so lucky~~heheh that's what you get for being good at English~XD
jkjk~yeah I got the letter, and I have to take it @ my high school for no fee~*phew*
I was looking at the sample passage they give you, it was so hard to read....O.o

[vc1188]

is the writing test worst than the SAT/ACT writing? because my writing skills are not that good.

I guess it depends on how you look at it, as well as what you're better at. Some people might have gotten lower Writing scores because of the grammar/multiple choice section - maybe that's just not their strongpoint. Others got their scores dragged down because short-essay-writing wasn't their forte. So if you're the kind of person who bombed the grammar section but did well on the essay, you should do well on the AWPE.

I, for example, got a 780 on my writing section. I got a perfect score for the multiple choice, but like, a 9/12 on the essay hahah. So I definitely wouldn't do well on the AWPE

[f0reveralways]

its only for kids going to the UC's right? not private schools?

[clauric]

my advice...if you think you are going to fail this test...take an english 101/105(varies from community college) over the summer..if you pass that class, you can fulfill this requirement..so you better enroll asap once you know the result..

[Aozora122]

honestly, i didn't think that the exam was that hard. i passed first try. you just have to write one essay based on a passage that you have to read. you get like 2-3 hours to do it, i don't exactly remember, but it's plenty of time to write a sufficient essay. just makes sure that you go over the sample essays on the AWPE website. THEY DO HELP. the prompt is fairly specific in what it asks for so just focus on what it wants and you'll do fine. even if you fail, the exam is offered again once school starts.

[Vindictive]

i love how the exam is on my birthday haha.

getting up at 7am to get ready and go to milpitas is the best thing ever!

if you see a hobo wandering around.. 'tis me!

i didn't fulfill any of the requirements so i have to go take the awpe.

[x teehee]

lame, I have to take it D: is it difficult? how is it setup?

[x_nana]

if only i scored 20 points higher on my SAT. now i have to take it on the day of prom.

but looking from the link vc1188 gave, it doesn't look all that bad. plus we get 2 hours to write it.

[visters]

Hey..So i failed as an asian..I got my result back from the test today and failed! idk how! maybe it was the fact that i spent like only 40 minutes on it out of the two hours given..but i have been taking ap classes and 40 minutes felt sufficient for me..I really do not want to take a class for it at davis! So i may just do it over the summer. I took both ap english tests and am pretty sure i passed but now im totally doubting my writing skills. wahhh..

i am confused by what the uc's sent me. it said that if i got a c or higher on a transferable class, like ap english comp, that i could count that. Does this mean you have to pass the ap test to get the credit? i got a b+ in ap english and am hoping that once the college receives my transcript i will be omitted from taking that damn workload class..gr

please let me know!

thanksss.

p.s. gah i feel like i epically failed, so yes..please withhold your remarks..>_<