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The New Militant Atheism Have you ever met an Evangelical Atheist ??

#1 User is offline   RLF 

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 07:42 PM

Have you ever met an Evangelical Atheist ??
Atheism is making another comeback raising its head in a new and vigorous attack on religious belief. Do you believe in God? How strong is that belief? Can it withstand any attack? They will mock you, nothing is sacred, including your feelings~

http://reddingloavesandfishes.com/forum/in...php?topic=916.0
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:32 PM

I think that God let these things happens so He can strengthen His faithful followers. Some will fall away and some will rise to be stronger.
To answer your question, nope. I haven't but I have heard about them.

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." - John 15:18

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You shouldn't bother with this kind of issue. I know it is important to do something about it, but I think that it's better off to deal with them when they come to you.
It's bad to attack them when Christians DO attack other people as well. Also, I realize that a lot of Christians don't REMEMBER this verse when people ask them if they believe in God:

But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. "Do not fear what they fear; do not be frightened. But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect" - 1 PETER 3:14-15!!!!!


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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:49 PM

QUOTE (desperation. @ Apr 20 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that God let these things happens so He can strengthen His faithful followers. Some will fall away and some will rise to be stronger.
To answer your question, nope. I haven't but I have heard about them.

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." - John 15:18



Yes, I have chatted with several on the internet, they are very conceited , and can be very very hurtfull. sad.gif On the link I provided you can watch 2 youtube videos that give lots of information about them, and their leaders...My name is Chris, and I direct a Christian emergency food pantry in California...


"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;"
1 Peter 3:15
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:18 PM

^ Well if you have strong beliefs in God, then it shouldn't deter or hurt your beliefs in God.
QUOTE (sushiwhore @ May 3 2008, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
exactly STEVEN YOU ARE MY HERO prince charming or w.e he was omg STEVEN IS MY HERO my brain is failure O_O

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:53 PM

QUOTE (Stevent @ Apr 21 2008, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ Well if you have strong beliefs in God, then it shouldn't deter or hurt your beliefs in God.


I do have Strong Beliefs~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY_n7yRka_Q
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 01:38 PM

Thanks to all for their comments, Im very interested in your opinions... dry.gif
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 02:36 PM

I read an article (I think it was in wired) and they interviewed a militant atheist. He was like "all people who believe in god are insane, and they should put them in jail if they teach their kids about god"

Best thing to say to one of these people.

"THere's more proof there is a God, then their isn't"

Proof of God - Bible if nothing else, Historical Documentation (even diehard athiests take the Bible as a version of history)

Proof of no God - opinion


honestly... you're not half as special as you think you are.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 04:23 PM

lol

since when was atheism "attacking" religious belief?

there are way more religious fanatics than atheist fanatics - don't try using some examples of some extremes to prove your point sleep.gif

I mean, neo-nazis are often DEEPLY RELIGIOUS but they're in no way a representation of the religious world, are they?
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE (lumiyooni @ Apr 21 2008, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol

since when was atheism "attacking" religious belief?

there are way more religious fanatics than atheist fanatics - don't try using some examples of some extremes to prove your point sleep.gif

I mean, neo-nazis are often DEEPLY RELIGIOUS but they're in no way a representation of the religious world, are they?



True lumiyooni, anybody can hide behind Religion to do their "Dirty Deeds"

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

2 Corinthians 11
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 05:42 PM

I don't really care what others believe or say to me.

I don't go to church nor care about religion,

but for me there's a god that loves me smile.gif
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 05:46 PM

Oh please, there are plenty of theists who are infinitely worse than any atheists I've known. Of course there are going to be radicals, no matter what beleif system you follow. So if you don't like what they're saying, unless it's hurting you directly you can suck it up.

These people are complaining about atheists books coming out, yet who complains about the countless religious writers out there? What right do people have to complain about a title like The Delusion of God when a theist will willingly tell you you're going to hell if you don't believe in their deity? I fail to see how that's any better.

QUOTE (dancingbymyself @ Apr 21 2008, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Best thing to say to one of these people.

"THere's more proof there is a God, then their isn't"

Proof of God - Bible if nothing else, Historical Documentation (even diehard athiests take the Bible as a version of history)

Proof of no God - opinion

I lol'ed.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Malice_Kaiser @ Apr 21 2008, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh please, there are plenty of theists who are infinitely worse than any atheists I've known. Of course there are going to be radicals, no matter what beleif system you follow. So if you don't like what they're saying, unless it's hurting you directly you can suck it up.

These people are complaining about atheists books coming out, yet who complains about the countless religious writers out there? What right do people have to complain about a title like The Delusion of God when a theist will willingly tell you you're going to hell if you don't believe in their deity? I fail to see how that's any better.



How about mutual respect ?? Perhaps thats better. Lumping all religions to be the same "damaging garbage" by the militant atheist is a lie, id like to see them preach that in a Islamic Mosque , it would be their last... w00t.gif Can you say that about Christianity ?, including fundamentalists ??

I lol'ed.


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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:40 PM

i sense troll
trying to start controversial threads.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:40 PM

^^ huh? o.O why's your quote different from what she wrote
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:45 PM

Yes................
one of my friends told me, "you're first on the list!"
I was like, "What list?"
& he said, "a list of atheism converting!!!!"
& I was like... "You know what? You're first on my list too!! Ha! Ha!" [I'm Christian]
Lol, so I tried to convert him... but he's so stubborn!!
I'm on hiatus on converting him xD
Will get back to it soon!!!!!!!! >:]
I never found out why I was first and he never tried to convert me... yet.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:46 PM

^ WTH - _- i'm agnostic and I don't go around trying to "convert" people

I hate it when christians try to convert me -_ -
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:50 PM

^ hmm?

Malice_Kaiser 's post is the same as it was

I think RLF accidentally included his/her reply in the quote lol
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (lumiyooni @ Apr 21 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ hmm?

Malice_Kaiser 's post is the same as it was

I think RLF accidentally included his/her reply in the quote lol




Sorry, hope this is better, no troll, just very interested in this... tongue2.gif


How about mutual respect ?? Perhaps thats better. Lumping all religions to be the same "damaging garbage" by the militant atheist is a lie, id like to see them preach that in a Islamic Mosque , it would be their last... Can you say that about Christianity ?, including fundamentalists ??

Response lumiyooni ??
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (lumiyooni @ Apr 21 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ WTH - _- i'm agnostic and I don't go around trying to "convert" people

I hate it when christians try to convert me -_ -

Ahhhhhhh!
I'm sorry if I offended you! I didn't mean atheists try to convert people T^T
I mean, this one friends tried to!

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:03 PM

^^ um
I never said that I agreed with the stuff about militant athiesm
I'm just saying that they're just a bunch of ------s who in no way represent the atheist community
I respect people's religions and as long as they don't "bible bash" me, I won't try to "convert" them into being agnostic

^ and :3 not as offended, since you didn't mean to be so
but it's just that people always try to "convert" each other
theists are always trying to convince people to believe in a certain god/gods and a lot of atheists/agnostics/etc. in return try to convince them why they shouldn't belive in that god/gods
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