[wattagirl]

21 to 2NE1, YG Copied a Group�s Name?
YG Entertainment explained their side of the story over the 21 shock.

YG Entertainment expressed, "We recently announced that the girl Big Bang group would be called 21, as in to anyone. However, it was found that there was already a male singer that had debuted in 2005 with the name To Anyone. Honestly, we had no idea that someone had already debuted under this name." Yang Hyun Suk clarified that "When 21 appeared on tv, the subtitles even put the name as 2NE1. In their debut album, there is even a song called 2NE1 and this was a decision that was made before all the criticism."


He revealed that "YG's girl group was planning on being introduced as 2NE1 formally before their debut album went on sale, but we ended up announcing it because of this development. Therefore, we hope that there is no misunderstanding about this mishap." On this day, Yang Hyun Suk went into detail saying "2NE1 was supposed to mean 'to anyone'. However, there are other meanings besides that one in that name. Since there is already someone using 21 (to anyone), we will no longer use that meaning." Hm, maybe they're hinting at a certain legal age because that will certainly draw the attention of pedophiles male fans.


In reality, 2NE1 was also linked to the meanings "always fresh and willing to take chances like 21-year-olds and a group that will never lose to anyone (like blackjack)".

2NE1's members include Sandara Park who was popular in the Philippines, Park Bom who became known after filming a commercial with Lee Hyori, Gong Minji who is grand daughter of famous dance artiste Gong Ok Jin, and CL who is known for her outstanding talent and also carries the name of leader for the group. The album will officially go on sale early May and Lollipop is already drawing a lot of attention. Lick that lollipop girls!

http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_stor..._a_groups_name/

[Fanoo]

What about 2BE1?

There was a french band called 2Be3...it sucked =_=
And people might think of the meaning of SS501.

So now it's 2NE1.
Pronunced as "Two-knee-one"? Or as "Too-ne-one"/"Tune 1"?
Anyway, it's easier to find when we googlize their name.

I like the fact that the girls all have some fame even before the band was introduced.
With Sandara being famous in the Philipines, and some collabs here and there with some YG artists.
That's really clever.

They're coming back in May or so? April maybe?
They have to release their single on a 21st ^^

[vip_gd]

2NE1?

it isn't that bad, and just like that person said
less sites correspond to that name
NE seems like it stands for NorthEast. meh.
I don't like names that have words that looks like they stand for something.

i'm still pronouncing it 'twentyone' though.

[teenace]

There was a french band called 2Be3...it sucked =_=
And people might think of the meaning of SS501.

Lol I wasn't talking about 21's group name,I was talking about the joining of Big Bang's name and 21's.
Like Big Bang+2NE1=2BE1 or 2BB1?
am loving the name 2NE1 and hope it doesn't get changed,its way better then Toanyone.

[bystander]

So now it's 2NE1.
Pronunced as "Two-knee-one"? Or as "Too-ne-one"/"Tune 1"?
Anyway, it's easier to find when we googlize their name.

No, it's still pronounced like the number 21.
It's still 21, except the spelling-version is 2NE1. You can still call them 21 for short.

[naturalhonee]

i actually like the name change!
1. 2NE1 is more unique than "to anyone", making it easier to search for them
2. they still get to retain the originally intended meaning i.e. (their music is) for/to anyone.
3. the number "21" is also in their international name now "21 (2NE1)"


and you know whats funny? well not funny exactly...but smth positive perhaps!?
it's that this male artist known as '21 / to anyone' had some free publicity
at least all of us in here know of him now right? haha =P

[harloisandara]

"this was a decision that was made before all the criticism."
that line made me laugh hard!
LMAO!

21 = 2NE1 = sounds like two+(N+E=knee)+one
^was that a math formula??
it still will sound toanyone

i said this somewhere,
it like friedrice,
it still is rice
but it is just fried.

LMAO!

infairness, i like fried rice. LMAO.
it has a what we call TWIST.

i really like the name change. im satisfied.

at least when they will do their album. the fonts will be changed. haha.
because fonts on numbers are all the same.

they can modify it more.

P.S.: well. i saw another site which they do dehumanizing comments to our beauties.
so annoying.
what? SMALL BANG? so annoying. let's just see how they soon ride to our beauties popularity.

[ncly]

2NE1 is still cool

so from now on we write the girl's group name as 2NE1??? and pronounce it sitll like number 21?..

[elavip]

^ 2NE1 will be pronounced as two any one, basically the same thing as toanyone. their group name is still 21, only their english name 'toanyone' is changed.

loll poor webmaster, had to change their name on the site three times. does anyone know what the exact font they use for 2NE1 is?

naturalhonee, haha yeah. i'm sure people searched up his music to listen to too.
call me shallow but i was feeling bad for this guy until i saw his picture on akp =x

gah not again, topped a page. let me search for something to share ...

OH! the NE in 2NE1 means NEW EVOLUTION! "new evolution of the 21st century", or something like that.
wow. so much to a simple name.

and yg apologized for the name thing too.

[vip_gd]

loll poor webmaster, had to change their name on the site three times. does anyone know what the exact font they use for 2NE1 is?

ahaha i know
made me laugh
he must be like "YG!! make up your mind!!"

[ncly]

hehe
i see i see

but then
still poor the other guy (the singer i meant)...

him = 21 (toanyone)
the girls = 21 (2NE1)

oh well, i still like the name anyways.


credit: ygfamily.com

[Y-VIP]

^ 2NE1 is better than ToAnyone!!! Yes, I'm happy! I feel bad at the same time happy for the guy with same name! He's getting popular now yet he must felt bad. maybe a blessing in disguise for both sides.

NE: New Evolution!!! Just like Big Bang in the beginning: The Revolution of Idol!!!

[xoxclaire]

^ I agree. I like 2NE1. Vairy unique! Me loves!!!

I have to fix my mp3 tag for Lollipop. Haha. For Last.fm

I really want to help fix the first post of our thread..
I've contacted Poop-Shoop-A-Loop but received no reply yet...
: /

[h1e7l3i4a]

idk what to say.... i was getting attached to ToAnyOne..

but yeah... 2NE1 is more searchable...
it'd make my fanLife easier.. hahahaha
\edit:
i was visiting the YGsite... when 21 popped up and i remembered how you guys kept on saying that you feel sorry for the webmaster...

i can't help but LOL....

[5.mystline]

They changed to 2EN1?? sounds awesome "TooAnyone" seems too weird.

[hellocatty]

YG will not change the name for �female Big Bang�

YG clears up about the matter of �female Big Bang� group 21 having the same name as another singer.

YG said, �It is such a shame that we didn�t thought of a singer with the same name. Even though we do not have any plans to change their name, we have plans to change the English name of �To Anyone (투애니원)�.�

�Though they have the same name, the meaning to the names are different. Hence we hope that fans will not misunderstand. Please continue to support the group.�

Meanwhile, 4-member group 21 prepares to debut in May.

k bites

PHEW. I was worried that he was just going to slap on "Sista" to avoid dealing with everything else.

21 is now officially 2NE1.

YG, YG... -shakes head-

source: http://star.mt.co.kr/view/stview.php?no=20...1&outlink=1

2NE1? I don't think its so bad. Its easy to search and I somewhat like the play on words. I'm getting use to it though. I would have preferred 2any1 but thats just me xD

Such a rough start for the girls...*sigh* I think it is still "21", but instead of it being "To Anyone", it changed to "2NE1".

I still don't think YG should rush such things - he should have just came out and said, "Yes, we will change it but give us some time." (<--- we still got a whole month left till their debuts). Fans will have a chance to stop connecting to "To Anyone", and YG can come up with something a little better? I am not so sure. I guess, if that is the case it'll just take me some time to get used to...

-ida



I honestly don't want to go to this extent, and I usually just ignore you. Do you know that what a fan does/say can indirectly affect their idols/groups' image? I mean, you coming in here and all the other threads - and leaving all these unnecessary comments. Does this make SNSD look good (?) and/or are they supposed to be proud of you? I am sorry, but please for the sake of your favorite group have some manners. The last thing you want is for people to judge SNSD on your behavior. Thank you.

I agree with everythingggg you said haha. We'd all complain a little bit about the wait but it would be worth it in the end. I'm still getting use to this name xD. and you took the words right out of my mouth about representing your group based on your behaviour some people..

^ 2NE1 will be pronounced as two any one, basically the same thing as toanyone. their group name is still 21, only their english name 'toanyone' is changed.

loll poor webmaster, had to change their name on the site three times. does anyone know what the exact font they use for 2NE1 is?

naturalhonee, haha yeah. i'm sure people searched up his music to listen to too.
call me shallow but i was feeling bad for this guy until i saw his picture on akp =x

gah not again, topped a page. let me search for something to share ...

OH! the NE in 2NE1 means NEW EVOLUTION! "new evolution of the 21st century", or something like that.
wow. so much to a simple name.

and yg apologized for the name thing too.

whoa the N and E stands for new evolution? okay thats just a bout 5 kinds of awesome. and the font is called "Queer" ^^

I knew there had to be some reason for this thread to jump 3 pages

[cindel25]

OH! the NE in 2NE1 means NEW EVOLUTION! "new evolution of the 21st century", or something like that.
wow. so much to a simple name.

Seriously?


About the name change: YG is good at making excuses. He should have done his research. Well, good luck to the girls.

[x__nga]

Toanyone as one word isn't even searchable. I did a google search and it automatically corrects it to "To anyone" with 287,000,000 results. "Twenty one" comes up with 16,200,000 results while 2NE1 only comes up with 15,200 results. I guess they just have to make sure the name isn't copyrighted or something like what happened with Rain having to be "The Rain" in the US.

I think this name conflict is a blessing in disguise.

haha i know right, personally i wasn't raving over "TooAnyone"
it was awkward for me, i love 21 meaning but not that
so 2NE1 is much better
it looks way better when typing too.

[crashandburn]

I also kindof think of this as a blessing in disguise. This makes them easier to search online and I like the idea of NE = New evolution. These girls are gonna bring something new and fresh in the kpop industry.

[Talesy]

So we're supposed to pronounce 2NE1 : "To Anyone" or "Twenty One" ? Even if it's pretty similar I'm a bit confused~