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The Darkside Of Fairy Tales Ever wonder what the REAL Red Riding Hood tale went like?

#1 User is offline   hungrycollegeboy 

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 12:52 AM

Have you ever wonder what the true endings of those childhood fairy tales were?

We did a discussion on this in my Humanities class the other day and I thought it was really interesting.
Disney took some of these stories and edited them so that they'd be suitable for kids.
But have you ever wondered what they cut out?

Here's the REAL version of Red Riding Hood (don't worry it's a PG animation): IT'S A MUST WATCH
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Snow White:


Ah, Snow White. It's such a feel-good, family classic, isn't it? The dwarves hi-ho, Snow White only dies/goes comatose for a teeny little bit, and ultimately, all is well in the kingdom with minimal hardship, at least for the fairest of them all.

But there have been many ways that the Queen tried to kill Snow White, and many ways that the poor, less-fair lady died herself. Along with that epic, poisoned apple, there was also a comb with poison, because I guess hair sucks up poison well, and before that, a little asphyxiation by means of a too-tight dress -- that Queen, she had crafty, murderous ways. But her own tortured death was even craftier. Her doom has come in a myriad of ways, from falls, to death-by-overexertion, to the most creepy: "a pair of heated iron shoes were brought forth with tongs and placed before the Queen. She was then forced to step into these and dance until she fell down dead." And the people of Buffy thought that dancing oneself into a cinder was scary...

Sleeping Beauty:

When the tale was published by Charles Perrault, there were two parts. The first is what we're familiar with -- cute baby, gifts, a curse, the spinning wheel, sleep, and then the saucy kiss. (And believe it or not, while the X-rated version came much, much later, there was sex in the earlier tales as well.) Anyhow, not so scary. But then there's Part 2. The Prince's mom is a Queen who comes from Ogres, so he first keeps his ex-Sleeping paramour a secret for a few years, until he has a few kids and is going off to war. His wife and children stay with his mother while he goes off to fight.

The Queen promptly sends the three off to a secluded house. She comes to visit and demands that her steward cook the little 4-year-old named Dawn for dinner. But he wimps out, so he hides the child away with his wife, and makes the Queen a lamb. A week passes, and then the Queen gets a craving for the other kid. He kills a goat this time, and saves his butt again as he whisks the other youngster off to his wife. But this Queen is insatiable and wants her daughter-in-law, who is willing to oblige, thinking her children are dead. They keep disappearing while grandma happily eats her gourmet dinners.

But the Steward confesses, gets sneaky yet again, and all is well. That is, until the ogre Queen comes upon the hidden family and decides to cook them all in a stew pot. But the flesh-hungry Queen is foiled when her son comes home just in time. She throws herself into the stewpot and is eaten by the snakes, vipers, and creepy things she had thrown in there to cook with her daughter-in-law and grandchildren.

Hansel and Gretel:

A family is starving, so the evil mom says: "Hey, let's send the kids out into the forest so that we have enough food for ourselves." But the buggers come back, because they leave a trail of pebbles that lead them back home -- a reason we should never teach our children, the insidious food-stealers! So dear old mom tries again, and the kids only have breadcrumbs, so they're stuck in the forest. They come upon a house made of bread, with sugar windows. Their little mouths begin to salivate, and they start eating the house. The old woman who owns the house takes the kids in, which seems awfully nice for a woman who just found kids eating her lovely home. That is, until she makes Gretel her servant, and fattens up Hansel so she can eat him. But then Gretel kicks her old butt into the oven, and the kids are free. They find their way home, and conveniently, their mom has since died of "evilness," so they live happily ever after with their previously mom-whipped dad.

There's not too much actual horror in this, beyond the burning of the old woman, but imagine her cannibalistic dreams, or the children's evil mom's fears about starving while they frolic. Or, maybe the old woman has done this before, and they find half-eaten children piled up in back. Who knows!?

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:50 AM

lol. i have this book that contains the other version of hansel and grettel
and im familiar with the snow white thing.


eww. the sleeping beauty is creepy.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 02:47 PM

Lol about the Snow White thing, I think there is really a show that shows when the Queen tries to poison Snow White by the use of a comb and the tight dress and she didn't succeed with those two so she tried using the apple haha.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 02:52 PM

theres also the original story of the little mermaid
but i forgot what happened though
i had to read it in english during my senior year of HS lol

http://hca.gilead.org.il/li_merma.html
if your really bored and would like to read the story
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 02:55 PM

I already knew all these since my friend was into this sort of stuff. sweatingbullets.gif Still interesting though.

I just read the whole little mermaid story. I thought it was sad. She endured so much for him and he ended up with someone else.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 02:59 PM

yea, stuff that DISNEY does always make it seem like "happily ever after", but a lot of the original stories are different. especially Little Mermaid (since I read Han Christian Andersen's version way before) .. andersen wrote a lot of weird fairytales o__o
people were surprised when I told them that little mermaid sacrificed herself in the end instead of happily living with the prince o-O;;
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 03:17 PM


I love reading different versions of fairytales, especially the sinister ones. They're so much better than the Disney movies with their stupid happily ever after crap. I remember reading Anne Rice's version of Sleeping Beauty. It scared me, and the cover already tarnished my innocent memory... But I think I might read it again if the cover was changed. It's Alice Sebold's books with the rape, but the cover didn't scare me and I loved the book. (I should probably stop rambling about books now)

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 03:30 PM


i knew it! i knew nothing had happy endings.. mellow.gif
that little red riding hood story was kinda freaky... but interesting.
they just totally cut out the part with the corset and stuff in the disney version
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 04:07 PM

In Cinderella, to make their feet fit into the glass shoe, the two step sisters cut off their toes biggrin.gif.

Brother's Grimm version. Just awesome.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 04:25 PM

Yeah I always knew about that. I think it's really cool/interesting, ... the brothers grimm movie was about that.

Hansel & Gretle always scared the shitt out of me.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 04:30 PM

We studied Little Red Ridding Hood last year in English.

Red, the most symbolic colour. laugh.gif Those who know the ACTUAL verison know what I'm refering to. wink.gif


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Posted 03 June 2008 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE (x_TaintedLove @ Jun 3 2008, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love reading different versions of fairytales, especially the sinister ones. They're so much better than the Disney movies with their stupid happily ever after crap. I remember reading Anne Rice's version of Sleeping Beauty. It scared me, and the cover already tarnished my innocent memory... But I think I might read it again if the cover was changed. It's Alice Sebold's books with the rape, but the cover didn't scare me and I loved the book. (I should probably stop rambling about books now)



Ouu I own the sleeping beauty books, they're so sexual =P haha but that's what I liked about them.
The parts where the sexually aroused the girls, then right before ... stopped .. omg cruel.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 04:35 PM

The little mermaid was just sad.

Just like disneys version, the prince falls in love with another girl (not under an enchantment) and in order for princess ariel to not die, she has to cut out his heart and throw it to the sea, but becase she loves him so much, she doesnt and basically commits suicide by turning into seafoam, never being able to enter heaven.

=( it made me cry, it did. ^^;

and - didnt sleeping beauty get raped during her years of sleeping...dom? XD;;;;


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Posted 06 June 2008 - 03:56 AM

yeahhhh... i've always been a fan of the original stories. (who needs the disneyfied cartoons anyway? with their stupid happily-ever-afters, lol tongue.gif) the grimm versions are always dark and gory, while the hans christian andersen versions are just plain sad... tears.gif (i mean, little mermaid turns to sea foam because mermaids don't have souls and therefore can't ascend to heaven? now that's just depressing.)

anyone who wants to take the original SNOW WHITE tale to a more macabre level should check out Neil Gaiman's short story entitled "Snow.Glass.Apples". Gaiman is the master of the twisted mind, and this story is NOT for the faint-hearted. you'll never. ever. look at snow white (and her "evil" stepmom) the same way again. crazy.gif
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Posted 06 June 2008 - 03:02 PM

i get interested in the darkside of fairytales since i watched Dn angel last episode "Ice and Snow"..
im actually wondering if that's a real book since i wanna read it. lol

anyway, im abit off topic.
im quite familiar with the Snow White dark side.
though i wanna read all the darkside of the fairytales, puahaha! XD
thanks for sharing.
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Posted 06 June 2008 - 06:25 PM

about Hansel and Gretel...that's how i read it when i was a kid! dang it's not the happily ever after version? i was satisfied with the ending...

but yeah...little mermaid was the one which made me not wanting to watch or read anything with sad endings....and i was really really young when i first heard the story (mom bought the cassette without realizing such horror - to me)
i think i still can find the drama cassette somewhere in my house
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Posted 06 June 2008 - 07:04 PM

We used to have a collection of the Brothers Grimm fairy tales, but I don't know where the book is right now. I also owned a collection of Hans Christian Andersen's stories which included the Little Mermaid, The Snow Queen(?), etc. but I lost it. : (

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 07:12 PM

You know, I have NEVER thought about them that way!

I thought the most gruesome fairy tale I have ever seen was Pan's Labyrinth, but then again, it's not a fairytale but a gory fantasy. o_O

I'm very intrigued now! I'm probably going to be the only one of my friends so into this!
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Posted 06 June 2008 - 07:43 PM

I really didn't get how the corset made of iron had any relevance to the story.
I guess all the 'strength' she gained trying to bash through the corset did nothing for her in the end.
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Posted 06 June 2008 - 07:50 PM

i really want to read them, grusome as some of them sound
the sleeping beauty one would give me nightmares

ive heard about the snow white ones though, i think those sound pretty cool
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