[bumpngrind]

Even when most of the popular K-Pop artists and groups were set up by SM Entertainment or YG Family and such. This isn't the case for a lot of artists, but for most, they are just set up by some company to make money, sell albums, etc.

Interested to hear the opinions about this.

[Christinaisweird]

Even when most of the popular K-Pop artists and groups were set up by SM Entertainment or YG Family and such. This isn't the case for a lot of artists, but for most, they are just set up by some company to make money, sell albums, etc.

Interested to hear the opinions about this.

sm and yg have different genres of music.
yg is a more of a hiphop/R&B and sm is more of a pop/ballad
and when jyp has artists go on variety shows they're more quiet and shy compared to sm artists
so of course they're set up to make money, etc. only b/c they're entertainers.
but doing that they spread the name of south korea and themselves like dbsk and big bang.
more korean artists aim for the oricon chart in japan is because it's the 2nd biggest music chart in the world.
so there are a lot of new rising artists that are debuting so young.
hope this helps

[Badboyz]

well when your at a point where other asian countries copy your songs and everything (e.g. vietnamese group copying DBSK rising sun)
I think it shows how high k-pop is in the world market.

[xdanceonx3]

Korea is far behind america in talent, imo.
Not that there isn't any talent in korea but they definitely aren't up to par as america is.

[bumpngrind]

well when your at a point where other asian countries copy your songs and everything (e.g. vietnamese group copying DBSK rising sun)
I think it shows how high k-pop is in the world market.

That doesn't equal talent though..

[Sango2893]

sm and yg have different genres of music.
yg is a more of a hiphop/R&B and sm is more of a pop/ballad
and when jyp has artists go on variety shows they're more quiet and shy compared to sm artists
so of course they're set up to make money, etc. only b/c they're entertainers.
but doing that they spread the name of south korea and themselves like dbsk and big bang.
more korean artists aim for the oricon chart in japan is because it's the 2nd biggest music chart in the world.
so there are a lot of new rising artists that are debuting so young.
hope this helps

I think she meant that it's like they are just in a group,just to make money and that's it,not as if they just want to make music because they love music just for the joy of it. I think that's another big difference between American Artists and K-pop artists not saying k-pop artist don't love music,it's just most of them were spotted at a young age and then trained for years to be into an artists where in America a lot artists (not counting American idol) had to struggle and make cd's in their basement,or stand on the corner and sing all day.(just examples) to get noticed by some big exec,where in the end they MIGHT have a chance in being successful.

[mashimaro_is_luff]

well, SM and YG is not all Kpop has to offer.
Talents existed in every music market, but more often than not, they're overshadowed.
there are talentless artists who are way more famous than a true talent in both America or Korea.

SM and YG are like factories. They take in raw material and train it into valuable gold.
I think SM has stated again and again that they're not solely about music. They trained singers, actress, models and entertainers.

I think all companies want to make money from their artists. It just depends on their ways to make it. Most of SM and YG's artists are young, so obviously, even with a passion for music, most of those people are not so sure about the industry, and most of the time, they were turn into money-makers.
To them, this phrase is like a "training-period" to understand themselves better and their passion. What they do after their big "umbrella" is the fate of the true talents.

[flyaway.]

Well, if you're talking about talent... there is bound to be talent in every market.
It just depends on whether or not they get the chance to shine.
Anyways, talent or not... in the end, it's all about preference, isn't it?

[KaoriHoshiko]

Depends on the artists isn't it?
Some are very talented, but some are talentless.
It's all about each person's opinion, one might think that singer is talent but other might think he/she suck.
I think it's mostly about individuality's opinion.

[EverCool]

i think its the top in Asia but like someone said its has a long way to go before r it can compete with America.

[crazyfrog]

depends on which area you mean.

in terms of singing abilities, yes, they're quite good even on stage.
in terms of creativity... not so much...

[orbiter84]

The US of A is so huge, if it doesn't have some talent it'd be weird rrrright....

Methinks Korean entertainers are brilliant because even those idol groups can carry a tune (most of the time). Awesome singers are everywhere in the industry. I think a "common" Korean singer may be able to make it as a "huge star" in the chinese industry...

Have you seen some chinese pop idol groups? I think they will get stones thrown at them if they try to sing live.

(No offence to the chinese entertainers though, I think there are alot of gems in there that definitely are worth listening to... I grew up listening to some of the best amongst them.)

Somehow I think there are just some groups of people who are genetically predisposed to better vocal prowess. Like people from Philippines; look at where Lea Salonga went; from Broadway's Les Miserables to Miss Saigon to Disney's Aladdin & Mulan... and so many concert back-up singers are from the Philippines; so many jazz bands that play in hotels feature awesome voices from Philippines...

And Taiwan aboriginal people, they have these powerful voices that really rock.

I think Koreans are one of the groups of people who are just born with something a little extra in their genes...

... or maybe it's just me...

[aneng]

I appreciate K-Pop than American bands and everything. I don't know why. But there are bands and singers in Korea who just shine because of their beauty not because of talent but that is just few people. Singers from Philippines are really talented, they are the one who really has talent to sing. They're so much better from American singers.

[lOveXJSoo]

There's plenty of talent in korea. Unfortunately, most of the most popular mainstream singers don't have it; they're famous because they're entertaining.
Some of the best talent in Korea is not as recognized because they aren't outgoing or funny or don't go on shows a lot. ARGH

I love Korean music and all, but I have to say talent-wise it's way behind American music (though way ahead talent-wise compared to most other asian music industries. My Chinese friends tell me all you have to do is be good-lookin to be famous in China, although I've heard some talented ones like WangLeeHom)

Do we even have to compare Alicia Keys, Chris Brown, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, Fall Out Boy, Ne-Yo, etc to WonderGirls, BigBang, Super Junior, SNSD, Rain, Hyori, Chae Yeon, and so on? NO COMPARISON. it's almost embarrassing.

Most of them would never EVER make it in the American music industry, talent-wise. I don't know why Rain's even trying. JYP himself said he never produced Rain because he was musically talented, but in order to produce an icon.

On a happier note, singers like Seeya, Sgwannabe, certain members of BigBang, certain members of DBSK, and certain members of Super Junior (as in KRY), Yoobin from Wonder Girls, Lim Jeong Hee, and so many more have talent equivalent to that of American artists.

[inyeon.]

Talent? Well, I think yes and no. Some artists are very talented, but some just have really attractive images. Overall, I do think the talent is close. Singing wise, its alright. I do think koreans artists have a talent with dance though. US music isnt all that great either. Some singers are pretty bad live. o_o

[kiwistar]

yes. why else would I be listening to it over other types of music?
It depends on preference, as always
I think korean celebs are better at dancing, they're closer to their fans, and are better at showcasing their personalities through variety shows and such, making them more attractive. They also have to deal with overwork/overstress more, because of different factors. They go through a lot...Korea has a problem with illegal music downloading and crazy fans as well as anti-fans.
There are so many factors to take into consideration when comparing different music scenes.

[I<3SunSunYeMi]

believe it or not,K-Pop talent is actually on top of Asia,with Japan of course
most of them are actually very good in live singing,i'm only talking singing
if sing and dance at the same time,its so different
but some of them are good live singers

[Lishathestain]

On a happier note, singers like Seeya, Sgwannabe, certain members of BigBang, DBSK, and Super Junior, Yoobin from Wonder Girls, Lim Jeong Hee, and so many more have talent equivalent to that of American artists.

ok im not trying to be mean here, other than SuJu KRY, i don't get how the rest of SuJu have talent equivalent to that of American artists.

Every artists in a music company are for money.
If not, then heck why would they sell albums, just wait 1-2 minutes people would already have them on the internet.
It's just that some of them are more talented and more passionate about music than others.
DBSK to me is THE ultimate boyband because they have the looks and the talents. they can sing, dance, and write musics.
and even though JJ&Junsu are the main singers, they don't really take all the attentions away from the other members, like how in BSB most people don't even care bout Kevin and Howie, and in Nsync, Justin and JC are pretty much the ones w/ all the fans.
but even w/ all that talent, i don't think DBSK can make it in the states. the boyband era is over in here.

but really there's too many artists in the US. some are more talented than what they have in Korea, some.. not really
anyway, i stop listening to american artists (most of them) just because the medias killed it for me. it gets boring.

[yienyienyien]

It depends on what "talent" means to you. In the States, producing your own music > singing live. In Korea, the number of entertainers/artists > real musicians who produce their own music. I wouldn't say the korean music industry is the best in Asia cause IMO, the japanese music industry promises much more and has a bigger market. In Korea, I think looks and charisma seems to be very important factors (?)

[Sam Sik]

well when your at a point where other asian countries copy your songs and everything (e.g. vietnamese group copying DBSK rising sun)
I think it shows how high k-pop is in the world market.

Get your facts straight. They didn't steal anything from DBSK.

Now, no, in terms of business and the music industry there is no chance that K-pop would even TOUCH the American music industry. The Japanese are slowly migrating in such as Jrock bands doing a few tours in America. But it's still not enough. I'm sorry fangirls, but I truly believe that groups like Suju or SNSD don't have that much talent. They are entertainers. And they do the job well. Hell, I can find more videos on Super Junior unrelated of their music. Nobody on this forum ever talks about their music. They always talk about how cute they are or how pretty they look. Why is it so easy to find a video on Super Junior's dormitory adventures compared to trying to find Justin Timberlake's house. Why is Ft Island's thread flooded with pictures instead of discussion about their music. The mainstream groups of Korean music are based on image. Just like the Visual Kei industry in Japan. It's image, image and more image. Yeah, sure Wondergirls (whom I am a huge fan of) make catchy music. But they aren't extremely talented. JYP managed to have amazing marketing skills, picked up some girls that can decently sing and voila you got yourself a famous group. Bi (Rain) isn't that great either. He has talent. But since he's doing a billion different things at a time, he has no time to become good at anything.

The only group I really respect in the Korean music industry is Epik High. Those guys have talent. And I know they won't ever make it into American industry, regardless of Tablo's genius messages in his first album that everyone for some reason pushes aside because "awww Tablo is so cute in that photoshoot!"

K-music wouldn't make it into the American industry because America won't accept diversity in their music. Like the other person had said after me.