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#1 User is offline   marcelohjj 

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:29 PM

ive been wondering for quite some time which way is better to brake.
my friend says engine braking is better cuz it saves brake and gas to stop
my other friends says engine braking consumes more gas cuz the engine revs high
im confused, so sometimes i slow down with the engine and sometimes i use the brakes
let me know which technique u use and why
thx
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 07:12 PM

Engine braking is illegal in most suburban areas, so IMO that rules it out easily.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 07:43 PM

Which is more expensive, a new clutch or new brake pads? The answer to this is clutch. So use ur brakes.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (90th.degree @ Aug 6 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Engine braking is illegal in most suburban areas, so IMO that rules it out easily.


that only applies to semi trucks because its loud...

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my other friends says engine braking consumes more gas cuz the engine revs high


your friend is wrong, if you are off the throttle then your fuel injectors shut off if you are in gear

i usually use a combination of both. if i see a red light ill coast in the current gear (engine brake) then use my brakes as i get closer.

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:35 PM

wth is engine breaking?
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE (soju @ Aug 6 2008, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wth is engine breaking?


Using your engine to slow you down...

I coast in gear until 1500 rpm then neutral to a stop.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:45 PM

you mean just shifting in neutral and gliding?

or gassing it @ low rpm's. i can't imagine anyone doing this on a regular basis... seems like it would kill the engine.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:12 PM

engine braking is essentially slowing the car down in gear. Downshifting from 5th to 4th to 3rd etc til u get to a stop. It depends how fast you are going, the slower u are going the lower the gear you use to slow down.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:52 PM

Most of the time I use brakes. Clutch and internal components will wear out with high stress. Once in a while I'll use engine braking to slow my car, as long as the rpm's don't go above 4000. Engine braking will require more gas as you are rev matching to the correct rpms in that gear. Regular braking requires none at all.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 02:56 AM

if you really wanted to engine brake, wouldn't you just shift to your highest gear?

Why go through 4 3 2,1
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 06:36 AM

QUOTE (TyneeTom @ Aug 7 2008, 03:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you really wanted to engine brake, wouldn't you just shift to your highest gear?

Why go through 4 3 2,1


Lower gears means higher RPM's which require more compression and takes the energy from the vehicles speed. That's why you slow down faster the higher you are in the RPM range when you're off the gas pedal. The excess heat from the engine is then released through the exhaust system.

QUOTE (marcelohjj @ Aug 6 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ive been wondering for quite some time which way is better to brake.
my friend says engine braking is better cuz it saves brake and gas to stop
my other friends says engine braking consumes more gas cuz the engine revs high
im confused, so sometimes i slow down with the engine and sometimes i use the brakes
let me know which technique u use and why
thx


The reason why you use compression braking down a hill rather than holding the brakes is because brakes arn't designed to dissipate heat well (especially after long term use of holding it down a hill), where as the engine already has a way to dissipate the heat through the exhaust system.

I use a combination of both.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 12:40 PM

it would use more gas to engine break.. for every gear drop your rpms are goin up... and beside its not good for the clutch. imagine your cars weight going against the engine as it struggles to keep up.. that jerk you feel is not good.
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 04:32 AM

QUOTE (soju @ Aug 6 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wth is engine breaking?

A sign you won't be doing much engine braking.
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 04:39 AM

my oxygen sensor went out a few days ago, and i was wondering if it had anything to do with using the engine to break.
i notice myself using the brakes more often after reading all replies. which is kool, i shift to lower gears in emergency stops.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 05:54 AM

QUOTE (viper2788 @ Aug 7 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it would use more gas to engine break.. for every gear drop your rpms are goin up... and beside its not good for the clutch. imagine your cars weight going against the engine as it struggles to keep up.. that jerk you feel is not good.


You don't jerk if you're driving right...
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE (viper2788 @ Aug 7 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it would use more gas to engine break.. for every gear drop your rpms are goin up... and beside its not good for the clutch. imagine your cars weight going against the engine as it struggles to keep up.. that jerk you feel is not good.


1. you obviously didnt read what i wrote. engine braking uses zero gas. if you are off throttle in gear the fuel injectors are OFF

2. you don't have to downshift to engine brake, you can just coast in your current gear

3. your engine is not struggling to keep up with the cars weight

4. if you feel a jerk you don't know how to drive

5. learn something about cars before you post wrong information

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE (marcelohjj @ Aug 8 2008, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my oxygen sensor went out a few days ago, and i was wondering if it had anything to do with using the engine to break.
i notice myself using the brakes more often after reading all replies. which is kool, i shift to lower gears in emergency stops.


No. O2 sensors commonly go out.
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE (Leembei @ Aug 8 2008, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A sign you won't be doing much engine braking.


of course not captain obvious
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 02:25 PM

if i am on the phone or feeling lazy i use the brakes, if im not feeling so lazy i just downshift a few times to a stop, especialy going down hill i dont wanna constantly wear my brakes so i just shift to low gear and coast down nice and slow. etc.

also if ur racing or doing other stupid shizz as u go into a turn i usualy downshift to slow down right before the turn, reving higher, thus giving me more horse power to power out of a drift, slide, or just gripping the road. making it safer on those hilly roads. remember when turning, using the brakes does not help with the turn, downshifting and stepping on the gas helps ur car not to slide out of control. be smart be safe dont do it neways @@
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 08:08 PM

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remember when turning, using the brakes does not help with the turn


ummm ever heard of trail braking?

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downshifting and stepping on the gas helps ur car not to slide out of control.


there is this thing called power oversteer that tends to happen if you just step on the gas

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