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Posted 17 September 2008 - 08:46 AM

okay a little history.
i used to do hardcore running on treadmill during jan - march, 400km throughout the 3 months and hurt my knees. I cut down my running, and finally took a break from the gym in july and august (ok, i still play cheat by running outside, and teaches kickboxing weekly.)

Now, i'm back to the gym in sept, resuming all my activities slowly..
my back hurt
it hurts so bad that even if i walk, i could feel the pinch of pain, on and off.
and it hurts even more when I
1. walk down the stairs
2. taking big steps up
3. sitting down
4. standing up
5. stretches my leg
6. bending down
7. squats (i noe i shouldnt be doing this.)

I've seen 2 doctors.
The chinese doctor told me that my spine is twisted, so she adjust it back for me
The western doctor told me , no big deal, prescribe me with muscle relax pills, vitamin pills and ask me to lose weight. saying that i could be too heavy, thats why it affects my knee and back.

He advise me to exercise more and eat less
the thing is that, i'm a exercise freak, i have no time for even more exercise..
i don't eat much, but i know i'm eating the wrong type of food like plenty of bread..

Now i'm in doubt
What's wrong?
Is my back ok? Which doctor should i trust?!?!
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 08:52 AM

Go to a chiropractor or a physiotherapist.
They will get your lower back in check.
It's probably from running a lot. Either that
or you lifted something incorrectly that was heavy
or you sit oddly. Either way do what I said in
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:50 AM

yeah best thing to do is probably go to a chiropractor. I have this problem sometimes, but then I started losing weight now I have no problem with it what so ever.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:17 PM

whhatt your doctor said for you to exercise more?!?! nonono....... the exercise is causing your lower back pain and exercising more will only make it worse. My friend used to exercise a lot. She was also a pro ice skater and her lower back started to hurt a lot.. but then she continued exercising and what not. It caused a small stress fracture because she kept on straining her back. I suggest you see a chiropractor as well. Also do not exercise in the meantime, seriously. Your back needs to heal. Let it rest, but still eat healthy.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 06:35 PM

If its possible, I'd see a chiropractic neurologist (different than your average chiropractor), he/she will be trained to see if there is any neurological basis for your pain- like a pinched nerve, and also correct it through things like physical adjustments/physical therapy/ recommending exercises for you to do on your own.

I've had back problems pretty much my whole life (I have a mild case of lorodosis-which means the inward curve of my spine is more extreme than it should be and throws things out of alignment causing lower back pain), and have found that chiropractic neurologists were the most effective when dealing with my pain.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (hunny @ Sep 17 2008, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
okay a little history.
i used to do hardcore running on treadmill during jan - march, 400km throughout the 3 months and hurt my knees. I cut down my running, and finally took a break from the gym in july and august (ok, i still play cheat by running outside, and teaches kickboxing weekly.)

Now, i'm back to the gym in sept, resuming all my activities slowly..
my back hurt
it hurts so bad that even if i walk, i could feel the pinch of pain, on and off.
and it hurts even more when I
1. walk down the stairs
2. taking big steps up
3. sitting down
4. standing up
5. stretches my leg
6. bending down
7. squats (i noe i shouldnt be doing this.)

I've seen 2 doctors.
The chinese doctor told me that my spine is twisted, so she adjust it back for me
The western doctor told me , no big deal, prescribe me with muscle relax pills, vitamin pills and ask me to lose weight. saying that i could be too heavy, thats why it affects my knee and back.

He advise me to exercise more and eat less
the thing is that, i'm a exercise freak, i have no time for even more exercise..
i don't eat much, but i know i'm eating the wrong type of food like plenty of bread..

Now i'm in doubt
What's wrong?
Is my back ok? Which doctor should i trust?!?!


You either have a bad posture or you're putting improper pressure on your spine through other means (do not use messenger bags. If you own any, burn them). Key to preventing back injuries, is.....wait for it....to have a big BUTT. Having solid gluts will support your spinal base, thus reducing the pressure required on your spinal column. Do less cardio and try focusing your training to your core muscles (abs and lower back), along with your a$$ (lunges, squats). I'll give you a $1,000,000 if this does not fix your problem.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:45 PM

^fwah! Ive got no messenger bag.. Ive got big butt too, guess its full of fats. Ill try that by working on my core muscles.

And, chiropractic.. Ive never heard of that before... Ive gone to physio and they work nothing for me (my knees, not recovering.) so I dont trust physio anymore..
I cough today and my back really hurts A LOT when I cough

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 12:05 AM

this thread is useless without accurate pics of your lower back and back - legs waist etc. chop off your head, paste happy faces over your chest if thats necessary ~
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 01:20 AM

^ lol i don't get your point.seems unnecessary.

I think you should see a chiropractor and sit/walk in proper postures.it sounds really really serious.sad.gif

i do think its the over exercising which caused the problems and pain in the first place.Stop for a while.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE (kinein @ Sep 18 2008, 04:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this thread is useless without accurate pics of your lower back


I disagree.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 05:36 PM

^^ i think u're kidding tongue.gif if i really take a photo of my back and it reveals that theres something protruding out of my skin, wow, that must be pretty serious and I might be in the hospital now and probably paralyze..
Ive just consulted another doctor and he advise me to RUN LESS, and slower. I was running yesterday, and when I accelerate, my left butt feels crap pain and brings a chill to my spine and mid back, and when I maintain on the speed, it feels better with just a pinch of pain on and off.
Why did my butt feel pain?

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 07:31 PM

It sounds more and more to me like a pinched nerve of some sort. Are you seeing a specialist now? Going to medical doctors for things like this might not be great just because it really isn't their expertise. I still reccommend a chiropractic neurologist if you can find one- best of both worlds-trained in physical adjustments and neurology as well. They can be pricy though.

You really don't wanna mess around with back injuries, I know you like to exercise, but you might want to hold off a bit until you get things sorted out. Also, try using a machine like an elliptical or an AMT instead of running- they both have little to no impact and are less jarring to your joints.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (TygrrLilly @ Sep 18 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sounds more and more to me like a pinched nerve of some sort. Are you seeing a specialist now? Going to medical doctors for things like this might not be great just because it really isn't their expertise. I still reccommend a chiropractic neurologist if you can find one- best of both worlds-trained in physical adjustments and neurology as well. They can be pricy though.

You really don't wanna mess around with back injuries, I know you like to exercise, but you might want to hold off a bit until you get things sorted out. Also, try using a machine like an elliptical or an AMT instead of running- they both have little to no impact and are less jarring to your joints.


I completely agree. Normal doctors are horrible
at diagnosing sports injuries. I had a back injury
and my doctor said if it starts to hurt a lot then I should
get surgery and plates put into my back. My chiropractor
and physiotherapist fixed me up quite well. You need to find
people who are specialized in the field. They will help you
the most. These being the chiropractors, the physiotherapists,
the chiropractic neurologists etc. I think it's too early to say
if it's a pinched nerve, none of us are trained medical professionals
and even if we were, we'd have to physically diagnose you.
To me personally it sounds like you may have herniated
the discs in your back but i'm not sure at all.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:03 PM

hey, i will advise you to stop or your exercises now.... no jogging, treadmill or whatever... when such injuries are concerned, i will trust chinese physicians more... western doctors will only give you painkillers... painkillers no use... do you have those sinsehs around... those that specialised in sprains, fractures etc? i hurt my back last time... and i went for many sessions with the sinseh... coupled with light swimming... it takes arnd 2-3 months to cure... but at least you know you are 'certified healthy' to continue your exercise regime... cool.gif
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (Makaveli @ Sep 18 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I completely agree. Normal doctors are horrible
at diagnosing sports injuries. I had a back injury
and my doctor said if it starts to hurt a lot then I should
get surgery and plates put into my back. My chiropractor
and physiotherapist fixed me up quite well. You need to find
people who are specialized in the field. They will help you
the most. These being the chiropractors, the physiotherapists,
the chiropractic neurologists etc. I think it's too early to say
if it's a pinched nerve, none of us are trained medical professionals
and even if we were, we'd have to physically diagnose you.

To me personally it sounds like you may have herniated
the discs in your back but i'm not sure at all.


Bolded for truth, I know I threw it out there, but its just pure sounds-like speculation on my part. Go see a specialist and don't force yourself to stretch/bend when it hurts- you might make it worse.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:44 PM

im a workout nut who stretches and last year my lower back was hurting me for months. And being a guy that loves basketball so... much that i continued playing until one day i guess i made it worse to the point i had a hard time moving/getting out of bed/even coughing hurts

first i iced it and what not.. only help very little.

then i went to an asian chiropractor and did electro-stimulation therapy for a while. It worked, but it didnt last very long in relieving the pain.

so i went to my friend's dad whose also a chiropractor. he told me to do these specific stretches, and after a month later the pain went away.
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