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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE(melkimx @ Aug 11 2006, 03:01 PM) View Post

i don't know where else to ask this and i don't want to make a whole topic about it

i'm doing the post-graduation job search thing and i feel like i'm getting pushed around a lot by these companies. like we'll schedule something, and the company will postpone or cancel last-minute or neglect to approve my suggestions for a time completely. i know it's their call and that i'm not supposed to ask for much, but is there any way for me to exert more control over the situation? i feel like telling them i have a schedule to work around too, and it's really unfair to me that they can't spare a few minutes just to tell me whether i should bother rearranging my plans for next week to come in for an interview! am i expecting too much? would it be unacceptable to try to counter the plans they make for me with something of my own?


usually, i try to get to know the HR staff member and/or recruiter when we initially discuss the job requirements/functions by asking questions and inserting random tidbits about myself. it's all smalltalk really, but it creates a friendly relationship and gives you more leverage when scheduling interviews. if i am not able to do that from the start, i usually call here and there to get scheduling info, and try to squeeze in other questions about the position i am applying for.

i guess it's my attempt to differentiate sincere interest from desperately wanting a job...and giving more attention does make them feel you're interested...

if all else fails, i brown nose them and say that i've been receiving offers elsewhere, but i really want to take up the opportunity at that company and give a completely valid reason so they wont think you're just making things up. some companies will let you go, but hey, you win som, you lose some, right? smile.gif


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heck if they cant even schedual u an interview and keep their promise, is it a company you want to work for?


i dont think bad HR necessarily adds up to a bad company. gotta look at the whole of the company, its goals, its services/products, its entire staff, etc to determine whether or not a company is worth working for. as an outsider, the company may just be understaffed to handle administrative duties. (i think HR is one of the first places to undergo budget cuts....but that's just from my limited experience...)
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:53 PM

So like... you know how they say Asians look younger than they really are? Is there anyone around here that thinks their face is starting to catch up to their age?

I looked in the mirror this morning and took some photos (I tend to believe the camera more than my mirror) and I wanted to cry. tears.gif
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE(hayabusa01 @ Aug 11 2006, 05:53 PM) View Post
So like... you know how they say Asians look younger than they really are? Is there anyone around here that thinks their face is starting to catch up to their age?

Yes, that's totally happening to me.

And moreover, I'm finding that my waistline is slowly keeping up with my age too.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 07:49 AM

QUOTE(melkimx @ Aug 11 2006, 04:35 PM) View Post

not really, but i don't think i can be too picky at this stage. and i feel like everyone knows it and that's why they can flake out if they want to.

oh well i guess i'll just wait a few days and see what they have in store for me... i don't want to be a pushover, but i don't want to demand that they talk to me anyway and hurt my chances. thanks.



I dont think it would hurt your chances, if anything IMO, it will help you. It shows you have determination and aren't scared to get what you want. You need to have some "balls" to back up your talk. There is a fine line between arrogance and self confidence. If you can back up what you say you can do, then what do they have to loose from hiring you?
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 09:03 AM

QUOTE(Laxntiga @ Aug 12 2006, 11:49 AM) View Post

I dont think it would hurt your chances, if anything IMO, it will help you. It shows you have determination and aren't scared to get what you want. You need to have some "balls" to back up your talk. There is a fine line between arrogance and self confidence. If you can back up what you say you can do, then what do they have to loose from hiring you?

well, the feeling i get when i talk to these people is that that kind of attitude isn't going to impress them but it could make things more difficult. of course i could be wrong, but i'm just going by my gut here. in this case, i did reschedule their plans with something more convenient to me, but i wouldn't have felt at all comfortable "questioning them very sternly" about their failure to follow through. you might have more experience than i do when it comes to job hunting, but i just doubt that that strategy would work out the way i'd want it to.

QUOTE(watcher @ Aug 11 2006, 08:35 PM) View Post

i dont think bad HR necessarily adds up to a bad company. gotta look at the whole of the company, its goals, its services/products, its entire staff, etc to determine whether or not a company is worth working for. as an outsider, the company may just be understaffed to handle administrative duties. (i think HR is one of the first places to undergo budget cuts....but that's just from my limited experience...)

you know, i'm very glad to hear that. because i've been seriously asking myself whether it's just a warning signal that i shouldn't be applying there when things like this happen. but yeah, if i'm in the position to do so, i'll try to get more out of the hiring experience like you mentioned.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 06:32 PM

i just got a 350 dollar italian suit jacket for 37.50. i love this whole tax free weekend concept <3...

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:54 PM

i'm one of those twentysomethings who were on a 4+ year college plan .... well i finally graduated last friday.

and it's my birthday tomorrow.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE(chula @ Aug 14 2006, 08:54 PM) View Post

i'm one of those twentysomethings who were on a 4+ year college plan .... well i finally graduated last friday.

and it's my birthday tomorrow.

double celebration for me biggrin.gif



congrats!

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there ya go....enjoy! w00t.gif
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:46 PM

Now that I'm back from Vegas, I miss all the free alcohol. ;_;
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:02 AM

maybe i should take off the "Bilingual- Korean" part of my resume.. i'm only decent on a conversational level.. and all these jobs are calling me about positions that involve translation of documents that involve all this technical/medical jargon..... with BIG money.

i've never regretted not being able to speak Korean well so much in my life.
i'm fuming at myself for not being more proficient.

i need a few drinks. sleep.gif or a job. someone get me a job....
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE(watcher @ Aug 14 2006, 10:39 PM) View Post

congrats!

*orders a doubleshot of petron*

there ya go....enjoy! w00t.gif


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Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE(shiwi @ Aug 15 2006, 12:02 PM) View Post

maybe i should take off the "Bilingual- Korean" part of my resume.. i'm only decent on a conversational level.. and all these jobs are calling me about positions that involve translation of documents that involve all this technical/medical jargon..... with BIG money.

i've never regretted not being able to speak Korean well so much in my life.
i'm fuming at myself for not being more proficient.

i need a few drinks. sleep.gif or a job. someone get me a job....


Awww,
Don't feel so bad. I think that applies to a lot of 'bilingual' people out there, including me. I wouldn't be able to translate difficult medical/technical terms - heck, who uses those terms on everyday basis anyways?

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE(hayabusa01 @ Aug 11 2006, 06:53 PM) View Post

So like... you know how they say Asians look younger than they really are? Is there anyone around here that thinks their face is starting to catch up to their age?


Hmm...what I usually hear is that Asian women look their age (or older), while it's the men that look young. =[
For example, I'm 20 (I'll be 21 next month woohoo!! tongue.gif)and my hubby is 26, but people (almost everyone) think we BOTH look 21-22ish.
I find this to be true with alot of older Asian couples as well. Women will be in their late 20's yet they look 37-38ish and the men are in their 40's but they look like they're in their 30's. Not to mention it's the women that get all dressed up and "pretty" and the guys sit around waiting doing almost nothing to accentuate their look except a comb in the hair. huh.gif
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Posted 16 August 2006 - 06:30 AM

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Not to mention it's the women that get all dressed up and "pretty" and the guys sit around waiting doing almost nothing to accentuate their look except a comb in the hair. huh.gif crazy.gif


Well, this approach doesn't work for ALL guys, I'm sad to say.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 06:58 AM

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 09:28 AM

Well I don't have internet at my house, still.

I was recently asked if I would like to volunteer to go back to Iraq for another year, after 6 months I'd earn $1000 extra every month I'm there.

I said no.

Also the recruiters are beginning to pester me about re-enlisting, offering me money among other things to re-enlist. I haven't come to a decision yet.

But I need a drink and I'm all out of scotch at my house.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE(Evigilant @ Aug 17 2006, 01:28 PM) View Post

Well I don't have internet at my house, still.

I was recently asked if I would like to volunteer to go back to Iraq for another year, after 6 months I'd earn $1000 extra every month I'm there.

I said no.

Also the recruiters are beginning to pester me about re-enlisting, offering me money among other things to re-enlist. I haven't come to a decision yet.

But I need a drink and I'm all out of scotch at my house.




Noooo dont let them send you back!!!! *clings to your leg*

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Hm....our next door neighbors are getting a divorce or somethin....I dunno....the wife just up and bought a house in Texas by her parents' house....so the Husband just volunteered to go to Iraq.....cwazy






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Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:40 PM

Man, I need a drink. It's been a long week, online and offline excl.gif
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 04:30 PM

all those recruiters can talk about is money, money, and money.
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 05:59 PM

i ate a lot last weekend so i was feeling a little chubb chubb.

drank the ultimate diet drink for two days and dropped 6 lbs

ultimate diet drink = maple syrup + lemon juice + water + caynne pepper.

taste so bad but works so well.



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