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Boa Will Eat You Up! BoA is about to debut in the USA! Any opinions?

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (shortboy @ Oct 8 2008, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly..I've heard the whole track..and if I did hear it on the radio, I'd switch it immediately. As much as I like BoA, it's gonna be REALLY hard to break into the American industry with "Eat You Up." And her accent and pronunciation doesn't really help either. I expect there to be a lot of racist remarks torwards BoA after this one.

^Yes.
I really foresee this.
References to William Hung and all.
I know everyone thinks, "Her accent isn't noticeable! Look at Shakira - she has an accent!"
Asian accents are not sexy. People ridicule those with Asian accents. And yes - BoA's accent is noticeable. Native-born Americans will pick up on it almost immediately.
I wish her all the best but I don't really see this happening. If she doesn't explode onto the American scene then y'know... kind of saw it coming. But if she succeeds then it'll be a pleasant surprise. Not because omg! great music!
But I want there to be an Asian artist in the American music industry. I want my neices to be able to relate to someone else other than Brenda Song.
Hell, I'd be okay with deporting Tila Tequila and bringing BoA over.

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 08:49 PM

QUOTE (kissez* @ Oct 7 2008, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^Yes.
I really foresee this.
References to William Hung and all.
I know everyone thinks, "Her accent isn't noticeable! Look at Shakira - she has an accent!"
Asian accents are not sexy. People ridicule those with Asian accents. And yes - BoA's accent is noticeable. Native-born Americans will pick up on it almost immediately.
I wish her all the best but I don't really see this happening. If she doesn't explode onto the American scene then y'know... kind of saw it coming. But if she succeeds then it'll be a pleasant surprise. Not because omg! great music!
But I want there to be an Asian artist in the American music industry. I want my neices to be able to relate to someone else other than Brenda Song.
Hell, I'd be okay with deporting Tila Tequila and bringing BoA over.



I agree with you guys. First she HAS to get rid of that accent. The media will DEFINITELY hound her for that (that is if they think she's worth hounding). Maybe they should've sent her here to get rid of the accent without any korean staff around? well maybe some people that speak english w/o the american accent and also speak korean too....>.> that really helps learning and practicing a language.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 08:51 PM

yeah, i wish her the best but...
it's hard to make it in the american music industry. america is just....there's no word for it.
but it's gonna be hard.
and her song, i heard the preview of it. i live in america all my life and when i listen to her song, i didn't even know that she was singing in english until i listen to it after like, the 5th time. blink.gif
the most part i understand was 'eat you up'. 0_0
now, i'm listening to the song right now, i can understand the first part that she sings and then to her chorus but that's about it....

anyways, wish her luck but it's gonna be a hard path.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (Redwarrior @ Oct 7 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, i don't keep up with the American Music scene. Why? most of it sucks, has songs that degrades women, and almost the same beats in every song. That's mainly the reason why i turn to asian music. I'm not saying that all American music sucks but have you heard the songs playing on the radio everyday??? Sex-oriented, no meaning, and degrading a gender. Maybe BoA's song will be a hit (if it follows the "american trend") >.> i don't think this is related to anything anymore....sorry i tend to go off topic. Sorry if i offended anyone.


maybe you should stop listening to rap radio stations lol. the stations i listen to don't have songs like that smile.gif and it's like top 40 songs too. plus radio stations don';t really define all American music anyway.


on another note, i don't really like Eat You Up. it's jsut... idk, i don't really care for the beat and lyrics. not really anything innovating or exciting. i do like BoA though, so it would be cool if she did succeed. i hope she doesn't give up because most American artists don't even make it big on their first/second/etc. try as well. i definitely think she can do better than Eat You Up lol.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (Redwarrior @ Oct 7 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand that. But most of the songs are, and most of them being songs the majority of the population listen to (which is why they play it so much) I don't turn on the radio that much but it's my brother that usually has those songs. and a few friends (not to mention school dances and occasions).


oh yeah just to stay on topic, my korean friend doesn't think she'll succeed, but on the other hand he thinks Se7en will succeed....


Hmm...I get you..It does get annoying when everything you hear out of mainstream music is mostly rap and generic dribble....But then that's why we have youtube and IMEEM...If we didn't have those outlets then we wouldn't know about such underrated artists and bands...

AS for the topic I agree too...Me and my mom were just talking about BOa just a few minutes ago lol...She thinks an Asain American or Korean American has a better chance to succeed here in the US.



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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (colloquy @ Oct 8 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Being on a BIG label doesn't mean "jack" either... look at Utada Hikaru, lollllll.


QUOTE (Billie Poynter @ Oct 8 2008, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bar's at the right.


LMFAO laugh.gif

im glad ppl in this thread now discuss this maturely...not in some "i want you to know and if u don't agree with me,STFU" kind of discussions. sleep.gif

I do think her accent is very very strong in the song and the song is so so to me now.anyway i don't really mind is BoA fails in America,she can come back to Korea.biggrin.gif
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (jaefan @ Oct 8 2008, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im glad ppl in this thread now discuss this maturely...not in some "i want you to know and if u don't agree with me,STFU" kind of discussions. sleep.gif

No, no, no - that only happens in the Korean Celeb Photos section lol.

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:18 PM

^ lol speaking truth.


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^Yes.
I really foresee this.
References to William Hung and all.
I know everyone thinks, "Her accent isn't noticeable! Look at Shakira - she has an accent!"
Asian accents are not sexy. People ridicule those with Asian accents. And yes - BoA's accent is noticeable. Native-born Americans will pick up on it almost immediately.


good point. really. unless you're a creepy asiaphile.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE (kissez* @ Oct 7 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want my neices to be able to relate to someone else other than Brenda Song.
Hell, I'd be okay with deporting Tila Tequila and bringing BoA over.

HAHAHAH. I remember discussing in my Asian American History class and my teacher said that Asian's are portrayed as smart and someone brought up Brenda Song as was like "actually...Brenda's character's an idiot..."

And Tila for BoA laugh.gif. I'd totally be for that ahah.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:54 PM

there's too much stereotype in the states.

I know some people that would be surprised if an Asian fails a class or wasn't a nerd (unfortunately i'm one of the nerds so i'm not helping the stereotype...sorry)

that same stereotype is for asian entertainers too. so i think BoA and her fans have to be prepared for ALOT of bashing and hounding when she debuts.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (mll @ Oct 7 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Snap!

I think the song is really catchy. I think this song got alot of people's attention even if they hate it. Atleast its not a mediocre song. It has radio potential.


Uhhh yes it is
but I agree it has radio potential


QUOTE (Ray @ Oct 7 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Janet Jackson is a legend but is no longer relevant in today's music industry. No one wants new material from her, that's why her CDs bomb but her tour is going strong. She's a has been, stop putting her name in this thread.

BoA is new and has potential. In my opinion, Eat You Up will sound excellent on radio, like many Bloodshy & Avant productions, and hopefully it gets the plays for success.



Cher - Believe
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 - 1, it also hit #1 in over 28 countries. Grammy award winning, multi-platinum single. What a bad example you put in.


And, I think it's you who should keep up with American music, because Eat You Up is perfect because the American music scene is all about Electric style of music right now.


You are totally missing the point and wtf no it isnt about electric style of music right now

jesus! wacko.gif wacko.gif

yes the song was #1 but no one jumped Cher's bandwagon
and Boa isnt new blink.gif

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 04:11 AM

QUOTE (colloquy @ Oct 7 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Being on a BIG label doesn't mean "jack" either... look at Utada Hikaru, lollllll.



You cannot compare Boa to Utada. Utada didn't have any goal to break in therefore no support.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 04:31 AM

LazyAsian:

Management and label are two completely different things. And a management is not part of a label her in the western music industry anyway. So great if Max Gousse is BoA's manager, but that doesn't mean she's signed to a major label, your point does not make sense. In other words: That is only an assumption, it's not a fact that BoA's signed to Universal.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 05:50 AM

QUOTE (ginger @ Oct 6 2008, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see how these Korean performers keep going astray in the US. What ever happened at studying another's failures and learning from them? I feel like...the Korean music companies keep making the same damn mistakes with Rain, Boa, and Se7en. Bland songs. Bland videos. Sub-par English. They are rushing these debuts when their performers can't even give casual interviews in English...and yet they're expecting the American public to wet its panties in anticipation? It's like they have an IDEA of what music Americans will think is a big hit but it's just a weird, pale imitation.

I listened to the complete song and it didn't blow me away at all. I didn't even feel excited. It was just a repetitive beat with a noticeable accent.

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I wouldn't say BoA is a failure yet. She hasn't even debuted. I do agree that it is a bad time for BoA to market into the U.S. consider the economy is in a shaky state and music doesn't sell as well as it used to. However a lot of bland songs with bland videos, or songs with sub-par english seem to still get by in the U.S. music scene. People seemed to prefer to listen to the beat of the song rather than the actual lyrics and not a lot of people watch music videos anymore. If the song is catchy enough it'll get requested on radios and video play, which helps get the artist recognized.

Even if the artists that are from foreign countries don't debut to a instant success here, it doesn't make them a failure. You don't always get it right the first time, it takes several tries. BoA has a very strong work ethic and she's been studying English as well as training for years for this debut. I don't think she just decided one day "Hey I want to go to America and become a famous singer there."

I don't think there is anything wrong with foreign artists trying to break into the U.S. market. It's the fact there is potential to make more money here and to gain worldwide recognition as a result, which is why so many foreign artists want to break into the American music industry. If Rihanna just stayed in Barbados I doubt she would be making the money that she is earning today (or any other successful foreign artist for that matter).



QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Oct 7 2008, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand what ur saying about the club play, you have a good point but like I said that doesnt mean Boa will be a success because her song gets alot of club play...Cher "Do you believe" anyone?? unsure.gif
Like I said earlier I don't think alot of people in this thread keep up with the american music scene to understand what I'm saying.



However Cher did get a lot of radio play when that song came out and people were requesting it. Not everyone might have converted as a hardcore Cher fan but she did get a lot of recognition and over all it was a success. So I wouldn't say that was a failure for her. Bad example.

What I meant was that for BoA's song to be playing at clubs when she hasn't debuted yet, it's a good sign and start. I didn't say she would be an instant success.


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Posted 08 October 2008 - 07:41 AM

I'm a BoA fan since i was on the fifth grade and i found this song is not really good.
I know it's catchy, but it's too 'small' in the american mainstream.
she'll need a lot more to takeover.

i don't really like brit - she's a good girl gone bad. although ppl still looking for her comeback but i don't like how she dances and sings - i mean, some of her songs were good, but i don't like her MVs.

i've read a book called 'asia future shock' by michael backman and i found a good quote there -
it was when he submitted his son to a school, and he interviewed the headmaster.
The headmaster said that that school is teaching Latin.
michael asked if he's considering to teach asian languages. because, the asians are advancing through Europe and U.S.
the headmaster said NO. - i think i read about how they think that the asians are veryyy far away. like 'huh, do asians know internet? does it even exist there?'
then michael said, you're forcing children to learn a language that is almost extinct, and not teaching them the languages that will conquer the world about 20 years again?

i believe that most ppl in U.S. don't take interest in Asian ppl - especially the music. (of course they're not in this forum lol)
i think they need to be realized that the Asians are advancing.
i hope BoA's debut can do it.

btw EverCool, i know that you dislike BoA- it's okay. but you're talking about JRI just because you're a fan of hers. it bias.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE (Daiquiri @ Oct 8 2008, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't say BoA is a failure yet. She hasn't even debuted. I do agree that it is a bad time for BoA to market into the U.S. consider the economy is in a shaky state and music doesn't sell as well as it used to. However a lot of bland songs with bland videos, or songs with sub-par english seem to still get by in the U.S. music scene. People seemed to prefer to listen to the beat of the song rather than the actual lyrics and not a lot of people watch music videos anymore. If the song is catchy enough it'll get requested on radios and video play, which helps get the artist recognized.

Even if the artists that are from foreign countries don't debut to a instant success here, it doesn't make them a failure. You don't always get it right the first time, it takes several tries. BoA has a very strong work ethic and she's been studying English as well as training for years for this debut. I don't think she just decided one day "Hey I want to go to America and become a famous singer there."

I don't think there is anything wrong with foreign artists trying to break into the U.S. market. It's the fact there is potential to make more money here and to gain worldwide recognition as a result, which is why so many foreign artists want to break into the American music industry. If Rihanna just stayed in Barbados I doubt she would be making the money that she is earning today (or any other successful foreign artist for that matter).






However Cher did get a lot of radio play when that song came out and people were requesting it. Not everyone might have converted as a hardcore Cher fan but she did get a lot of recognition and over all it was a success. So I wouldn't say that was a failure for her. Bad example.


What I meant was that for BoA's song to be playing at clubs when she hasn't debuted yet, it's a good sign and start. I didn't say she would be an instant success.


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Why is it when someone makes a statement you disagree with you have to make a snarky remark but when the same is done to you, you can't even come up with a decent rebuttal? I never said to leave but if you like making people miserable then by all means go ahead. I mean what else are you going to do with your time? Again your maturity level is pretty self-explanatory, seriously how old are you?



People are missing the point again! wacko.gif

Yes the song got alot of airplay and made the charts
I believe Boa's song will get radio play and make the charts as well not top 10 but she'll make the charts I believe....but just because on song does good doesnt mean everyone will be on your bandwagon.

I also think the fact that she's releasing a song that sounds similar to Britney's "Womanizer" at the same time is also is no no. I'm not being a Britney stan either because I really can't stand Britney but too many people are anticipating her comeback.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 08:23 AM

QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Oct 8 2008, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People are missing the point again! wacko.gif

Yes the song got alot of airplay and made the charts
I believe Boa's song will get radio play and make the charts as well not top 10 but she'll make the charts I believe....but just because on song does good doesnt mean everyone will be on your bandwagon.


Of course not everyone is going to become an instant fan or "join the bandwagon" as you put it. But usually if the song is successful more people take notice and sometimes they will download or buy the song. That might not be a definition of a fan but they are supporting that artist by buying the song or spreading the word around. For example, when Paris Hilton released her single, it tanked but people did take notice. People knew about her singing career, even if it wasn't a hit. She still garnered recognition for it. Yes, no one joined her "bandwagon" but they still knew about it.

Also if one song by that artist is catchy enough and people like it, they usually come back for more. Like Britney Spears, her song "Baby One More Time" was noticeable enough to bring her success with the target audience who then became her fans. Often times one song can do the trick (not always).
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE (Daiquiri @ Oct 8 2008, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course not everyone is going to become an instant fan or "join the bandwagon" as you put it. But usually if the song is successful more people take notice and sometimes they will download or buy the song. That might not be a definition of a fan but they are supporting that artist by buying the song or spreading the word around. For example, when Paris Hilton released her single, it tanked but people did take notice. People knew about her singing career, even if it wasn't a hit. She still garnered recognition for it. Yes, no one joined her "bandwagon" but they still knew about it.

Also if one song by that artist is catchy enough and people like it, they usually come back for more. Like Britney Spears, her song "Baby One More Time" was noticeable enough to bring her success with the target audience who then became her fans. Often times one song can do the trick (not always).


Yeah but in Boa's case this is different, I think she will be noticed in the states but my goodness
this is her debut and SM needed to do better, it's very bleh song.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:29 AM

i think that it could've been better.
i love boa dearly, but this song is just not her.
it's repetitive and she needs songs that are more addicting and powerful like girls on top, spark, bad drive. you name it.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 11:08 AM

In my opinion, BoA's "Eat You Up" isn't that bad, but I know, I just feel, that she can do better. In "Eat you up" it seems that she has a weak voice even though we know that it isn't true. Of course, there are many US singers who doesn't have strong vocals, but BoA is from another country and she has to prove that she worth's US listeners attention. The preview of US video majorly sucks. It looks cheap and boring. Except for BoA's dance of course. Her dancing skills always amazes me. Korean video preview was much better and it was an US level, but oh well...
Second, I don't think that her accent is so unbearable. Honestly, I don't hear it at all.There are a few moments where you can hear how it just "pop's out" but I choose to ignore it. The song is pretty catchy though when I listened to the whole song, I thought that beginning of the song and the beginning of verse two are a bit messy. I somehow don't like them. All in all I think this song is okay but still needs a bit of improvement if BoA wants to take over US.

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