[cutepeaches]

http://www.motorauthority.com/porsche-accu...-lap-times.html

The GT-R has beat the 911 Turbo in almost every independent test so...

[visuelz]

If this is true, Nissan is going to be in for a very big lawsuit.

[v8subie]

"He said Porsche took a standard GT-R bought in the United States and running on regular road tires."

[OMGHIyori2U]

probably bought a GTR in CA running 91 octane, and shipped it over there, using a non-professional driver to drive.

Why would u bring a US spec GTR over to Europe anyways? I don't know if Europe gets GTRs over there but different country specs can make a difference as well.

If they bought a US spec GTR over there, they should've bought a US spec 911 over there as well.

If u ask me, the Porsche guys are just sore losers.


Plus there have been different car magazines who have done tests as well on different tracks comparing the two, and the GTR beats them every time.

[azn akira]

if they lied then why does the 911 turbo get beat in EVERY comparison test?

not to mention a time of 7:54 is just downright slow by todays standards. i'd bet they were sandbagging when they drove the gtr

also the usdm gtr and jdm gtr run different tires

[mikez]

probably bought a GTR in CA running 91 octane, and shipped it over there, using a non-professional driver to drive.

Why would u bring a US spec GTR over to Europe anyways? I don't know if Europe gets GTRs over there but different country specs can make a difference as well.

If they bought a US spec GTR over there, they should've bought a US spec 911 over there as well.

If u ask me, the Porsche guys are just sore losers.


Plus there have been different car magazines who have done tests as well on different tracks comparing the two, and the GTR beats them every time.

Well to answer your question, majority of the speed testing around the ring are done by non professional test drivers.

Only companies like BMW and porsche can afford to keep their professional drivers in their own countries months around the same tracking in a car's testing phase.

The ZR1, the Viper Club Racer, the CTS-V, the GTR, are all driven around the ring by the factory's development and testing engineers. Believe it or not, most of your favorite cars are being tested around the ring by average joes. Once you driven around the ring for around 2000 times, you will get the hang of it better than most lol

[viper2788]

i dont get it.. why does porsche feel compelled to re-test the gtr? jealousy much?

anyhow, ive seen videos on youtube about the gtr's nurburgring time.. with the camera in the car. isnt that enough proof?

[Laxntiga]

We all know it. If you want to be baller and show off, you get the German over the Japanese. However, if you want a car that better fits you, them Japanese make some spectacular cars. The GT-R being one of them. They truly set a high bench mark for Toyota, Nissan and any other Asian car company. Its always been struggle for yo rep hahahhaa.

Chicks n balla status = Porsche (pronounced por-shh-ahhh)
Straight up practical racing supercar = NISSAN GT-R

[Launchbackwards]

If this is true, Nissan is going to be in for a very big lawsuit.

lol no

[Adikt]

Lol haters much?
Love it or hate it the GTR is here to stay and...
I don't know what Porsche is trying to prove with this...

[azn akira]

The ZR1, the Viper Club Racer, the CTS-V, the GTR, are all driven around the ring by the factory's development and testing engineers.

actually the viper acr was driven by the FIA world touring car champion. i think they had a pro driver drive the gtr when it got the time, and i wouldnt be surprised if they had a pro drive the zr1 for its time too. most of the driving while the car is in development is not done buy a pro driver, but when they put the lap time down for press they usually hire a pro

[jbigdog123]

My only question is what type of tires were used by Nissan during the run at the ring. If they used stock tires (as well as other manufacturers) then there shouldn't be any issues but if they used race tires to gain advantage over other manufacturers (assuming they used stock tires) then it would be unfair and there should be an annotation to indicate it's run was with non-stock tires.

[mikez]

actually the viper acr was driven by the FIA world touring car champion. i think they had a pro driver drive the gtr when it got the time, and i wouldnt be surprised if they had a pro drive the zr1 for its time too. most of the driving while the car is in development is not done buy a pro driver, but when they put the lap time down for press they usually hire a pro

Oh really, thats cool how they got the FIA champ to drive the viper, since I saw the vid and it was pretty well driven for such a wild machine.

I just saw the video of the CTS-V last night, and the sub 8 min record for a 4 door sedan record was smashed by a field engineer... as compared to the professional times by the BMW test drivers lol

[azn akira]

He says there was no tweaking of any kind and the GT2 and Turbo both ran on regular Porsche road tyres, the Michelin Sport Cup.

i found that quote from a different article. the michelin psc are r-comps. also the turbo does not come stock with those tires, those are much better than stock tires. however the gt2 does come with those tires stock.

im sure this was a real unbiased test...

[youngnottheold1]

The fact that Porsche has come out and challenged Nissan is extremely interesting. The numbers of the GT-R were always surprising to me.. and they also lied about the hp numbers... so..

lets see what happens :popcorn:

[kuku]

Apparently, Porsche drivers must not know how to turn off the fancy Japanese traction control or something. I was watching a independent test from an 'average' guy on youtube. He posted a 5 sec 0-60 time in a porsche, yet a 4 second 0-60 time in a GTR.

On wikipedia, it says that the time was video confirmed to be 7.29 anyway.

[FFDk]

They just Jealous cuz the GTR beat them in almost every test.

[youngnottheold1]

On wikipedia, it says that the time was video confirmed to be 7.29 anyway.

yah but the question is about the tires. the video doesnt do a close-up on the tires or anything so..

[OMGHIyori2U]

anyhow, ive seen videos on youtube about the gtr's nurburgring time.. with the camera in the car. isnt that enough proof?

the question "lies" (pun intended) with the tires. The youtube vid doesn't show what tires the GTR was using. Porsche accuses Nissan of using r-compound tires instead of the stock tires that came with the GTR.

[mikez]

Also you must know by, by changing the FPS of the video, the rate its playing can be edited slightly (if you remember the thing called VCR, you can record 80 min movies on a 40 min tape.. same idea) therefore they can overlay a timer on the edited video to show they did the ring in a quicker time.