[bambishanny]

so i've been trying to learn how, but i dont understand the technical part of "belting out."

some people say belting is taking the chest voice to up to the head voice range while others say its not.

does anybody here in soompi know how to belt, and if so, would you mind sharing tips or give out pointers on the technical aspect of belting?

appreciate it much <3

[yureru132]

Hi Shannon!!

I second this request!! To anyone out therrrree...

[osamayomama]

belting is basically screaming your high notes with out bringing the register up.
i dont know what others think but ive been thought that way. bringing your chest voice up to your head register will be a mix voice ^^
which is used for the same purpose as belting...but theres a point where u cant belt anymore.
so you mix your head register with your chest, and just scream ^^

[bambishanny]

^really...? 0_0

ive been taught that screaming and belting is different.

belting does not equal screaming...screaming will damage your vocals, and belting isnt supposed to damage anything....

or i could've been taught wrong =X

[osamayomama]

well yes its different but
it the same concept xD
just belt as in sing louder and powerful
belting is sort of like= screaming the "right" way

[fantastikk]

i have the same question!
i'd love to learn how to belt (correctly) d:

i've heard that belting is completely different from screaming. there's definitely a right and wrong way to do it. i'd ask a friend that's been trained about it, maybe ask him/her to demostrate.
because i've got a friend who takes voice lessons and last year at a choir camp they learned the basics on belting. idk if she continued training on it, but someone that's had lessons should be able to recognize the difference between belting and straining/screaming.

[yureru132]

I don't think it's anything related to screaming...

[osamayomama]

hmph....pple...
belting is singing a note powerfully
with out using other registers.
what do u do in order to hit high C belting?
you scream. the right way.

if any of u can belt with out screaming ill quit singing.

[ny-sw / ny_sw.]

^ Quit singing. If you want, I'll prove it, but belting is NOT screaming.. "correctly". At all.

Belting is chest voicing a note that's supposed to be in head voice normally..like above your first break.
So yeah, a C+.

Screaming and belting have nothing in common. You're constricting the vocal cords when you 'scream' and when you belt, it's the complete opposite feeling.. in fact, if you do constrict/push without proper air support (you need a LOT of air and it takes lots of energy) then you won't get the right sound you want.
It's also all on your vocal cords when you scream..

Just remember: completely loose and relaxed. If you feel yourself tensing up, relax. Belting well is mostly psychological.

[babiixj]

xD...shannon..u awesome woman u..haha...ur voice is madd amazing...belting..gosha..if u can do that...it'll bee...sooooo amazing..^^

but yeaa.....scream and belting r totally 2 different thingss...xD
when i think scream...i think of a rollercoaster scream..hahaha...like....when u get off the rollercoaster..ur throat hurt soo much cuz u were screaming too much...same thing in singing i guess....if u screamin while u singing..u def. gonna keep messin up ur throat & vocals...
(...it's the only analogy i can come up with right now...so bare with mee..hahaha...rollercoaster scream is exaggerating it...but it's the same concept..=P)

belting is like....singing in another level....a more powerful level...like yekki said...u def need ALOT of air & energy to use that chest voice...it takes alot of practice and control...i'm sure u can pull if off..^^...i think it's something that u kinda have to teach urself but know the basics ( i dunno..that's juss me..haha)...cuz like...u know ur own vocals..& u know what u comfortable with....juss start practicin using that chest voice of urs & get comfortable somehow....=].....but yeaa..i ain't no teacher...haha...so don't scold mee on this one shannon..xD....i'm still learning too..haha..tryin to pull like a christina or a mariah..=P....HAHA..yeaa..in my dreams...but a girl can try..right right??.xD

i love u!!..<3

[jzsun]

^ ooo~ christina's a nice example! :]

but yeah, i've always thought that belting
was the powerful version of head voice.
like it's what you use to sound more rich and strong.
and it's right before you hit your head voice register.

but then again... i don't really know anything
compared to like yekki and julie.

(ps. OMG IT'S A VSE ORGY 8DDD HARHARHARHARHAR... no x__x)

[johnnyphlo]

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[LK.]

hmph....pple...
belting is singing a note powerfully
with out using other registers.
what do u do in order to hit high C belting?
you scream. the right way.

if any of u can belt with out screaming ill quit singing.

wtf ? XD HAHAHA loser pssht .
If you quit singing , I will start to sing again [: HAHAH kidddiinngggg .

[StargazerBlue]

hmph....pple...
belting is singing a note powerfully
with out using other registers.
what do u do in order to hit high C belting?
you scream. the right way.

if any of u can belt with out screaming ill quit singing.

I think what he says is right. Terminology really doesn't matter, just as long as the sound you're talking about is the same. He showed me an example of his screaming and it (to me) just sounded like belting. Therefore it's not wrong, you just have trouble communicating.

Seriously, don't get so hooked up on what the term belting means. Belting is just singing powerfully up high. There are people that say you can belt in mix, some people that say you can only belt in chest, some people who call belting a refined form of screaming (which I think it is). If singing is speech refined a thousand times then why can't belting be screaming refined a thousand times? It's just how you look at it.

I don't know if you guys think that Xtina/Mariah belt or use mix. IMO Xtina is using a very compressed heavy mix (which pretty much is belting to me) while Mariah uses mix. Just for clarification.

Screaming and belting have nothing in common. You're constricting the vocal cords when you 'scream' and when you belt, it's the complete opposite feeling.. in fact, if you do constrict/push without proper air support (you need a LOT of air and it takes lots of energy) then you won't get the right sound you want.
It's also all on your vocal cords when you scream..

Just remember: completely loose and relaxed. If you feel yourself tensing up, relax. Belting well is mostly psychological.

Screaming and belting both use the voice yes? And they both use air, yes? Therefore they do have something in common.

A scream is constricting your vocal cords but as long as the constriction isn't in your throat, and ONLY your vocal cords (I call it compression or squeeze in the vocal folds, it's the sort of coordination needed to engage mix but with a lot more chest mixture) it's not dangerous. I don't know why you think that belting should be completely loose and relaxed because obviously it's going to require support and it's going to require vocal coordinations which require the vocal cords to be engaged. And if the vocal cords are engaged it's not exactly the feeling of relaxation, because it's going to sap a lot of energy to keep your vocal cords IN that coordination. Belting should really feel more like a powerful sustained shout (without the high larynx, and with proper compression in your vocal cords) up in the higher part of your range.

Of course it's going to take time. The best advice that anyone can really give is practise, and practise some more, and keep experimenting until you get it right. You're bound to make mistakes along the way. If you're really interested about it consult a professional who knows what they're talking about because I find some of the advice on Soompi is really unreliable (as lots of people don't actually take training and practise by themselves, and sometimes give WRONG advice).

[oreoo]

ask changmin how to belt?

[ny-sw / ny_sw.]

Screaming and belting both use the voice yes? And they both use air, yes? Therefore they do have something in common.

A scream is constricting your vocal cords but as long as the constriction isn't in your throat, and ONLY your vocal cords (I call it compression or squeeze in the vocal folds, it's the sort of coordination needed to engage mix but with a lot more chest mixture) it's not dangerous. I don't know why you think that belting should be completely loose and relaxed because obviously it's going to require support and it's going to require vocal coordinations which require the vocal cords to be engaged. And if the vocal cords are engaged it's not exactly the feeling of relaxation, because it's going to sap a lot of energy to keep your vocal cords IN that coordination. Belting should really feel more like a powerful sustained shout (without the high larynx, and with proper compression in your vocal cords) up in the higher part of your range.

Of course it's going to take time. The best advice that anyone can really give is practise, and practise some more, and keep experimenting until you get it right. You're bound to make mistakes along the way. If you're really interested about it consult a professional who knows what they're talking about because I find some of the advice on Soompi is really unreliable (as lots of people don't actually take training and practise by themselves, and sometimes give WRONG advice).

Before I start, not to be an ass or anything, but I have had lessons for three years now (and counting) so I'm pretty damn sure I know what I'm talking about.

Of course if you overanalyze it like that then anything could have stuff in common. Talking and singing both use the voice and air.. but aside from that they don't have anything else in common. So, yeah. Way to stretch to just negate everything I say.

It should be loose in your vocal cords.. generally people tend to think that compression means that it's okay to shout and place your voice on your folds. There's definitely a difference (been there, done that.) Yes, you will need a bit of compression (what singing doesn't?) .. but thank you for clarifying.

Terminology actually really does matter but for the sake of argument, or whatever, fine, he's correct, but I just felt the need to clarify.

I don't know if you actually intended to be this rude but I'm actually pretty damn offended. That personal attack was completely unnecessary.

On a completely different note - Shannon, I LOVE YOU :] <33
You're going to sound so freaking amazing once you learn how to belt, haha. :]

[osamayomama]

i dont get how anyone can belt with out shouting.
i mean yea belting should be comfortable but
you are hitting your highest note with out using your head registers.
how can u not scream? btw my def. of scream is way different from u guys jsut to tell you.

[yureru132]

Hm.. I think terminology is very important, otherwise it can SERIOUSLY SCREW PEOPLE OVER if they don't interpret it the way you do. Thus using more precise words in vocal jargon is better..

[osamayomama]

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lol post something let me hear you belt with out screaming ^^

[Solly]

Okay my lovely people... lets all sing the kumbaya song while holding hands!

*takes out the ukalele*

Haha, anyway, back to Shannon's question~ umm... found this on a website... seems reliable...

Screaming can be very damaging to the vocal chords and those who practice it are invariably limited in their career as the toll is taken on the voice. There is a difference between 'Increasing Power', 'Belting' and 'Screaming'. 'Increasing Power' - is the natural way to improve your vocal strength, its a slower process which if done properly will not harm the voice. It requires correct breathing, learning to control the muscles that support the diaphram to produce airflow and using the lungs capacity. Swimming is an excellent exercise as the breathing required for crawl and breaststroke aids timing and control which over time allows you to use our lungs to their best efficiency and there are exercises for correct breathing in the Vocalist.org.uk Breathing Exercises section. 'Belting' is the production of volume by forcing air through the vocal chords at high pressure. Similar to 'Screaming' it can be very harmful to the voice. It is possible to learn how to 'Belt' without harming the vocal chords too much but totally inadvisable for anyone but experienced singers or students who are receiving tuition from a singing teacher who can monitor and advise their progress. 'Screaming' is not advisable!! It causes damage to the voice and can cause 'Nodes' on the vocal chords which require an operation to be removed and loss of voice. Please don't get me wrong - I've done the odd 'scream' myself and there are several singers who use this to effect, however, it does damage the voice - those who 'Scream' regularly have a limited vocal life and often suffer problems throughout their career. You can achieve a similar (and far safer) effect by learning to sing correctly and gradually building up your vocal power. Find a singing teacher, vocal coach or workshop in your area who caters for rock/pop singers and who can guide you through a healthy learning process - yep it takes more time and effort but your voice is worth it! If you 'Have To' scream during a particular song make sure that it is placed at the end of the set list or as the last song before the break. Rest your voice completely after the song - avoid talking and drink plenty of water during the day and performance to lubricate the voice and prevent dehydration. Hope this helps Tracey Vocalist.org.uk Webmaster

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