[vectorzz]

OK well

I just got an email saying that they found one of my CS assignments was plagirized by my friend.
I did send him the code and he did "copy" alot of it but also changed alot of the code.
Apparently they have this really good program for analyzing code for similarities so...yea

I guess i just never thought it would happen to me

and i'm so angry and annoyed
it was late at night and we have a huge workload so i just wanted to help my friend and I checked
his code before he submitted to make sure it wasn't too similar, but he added a bunch of comments and changed lots of variable names so it looked
really different, in the end looking at the same code again, it looks really similar so it's pretty hard to argue against the administration

*sigh* and I've been doing really bad in most of my courses this term, CS was suppose to be the course that brought my average up but
I just got my 77% cs midterm back today and now this....

somehow I just feel like I'm really innocent
I mean I really worked hard on some of those CS assignments too staying up at night, now that assignment mark is going bye bye and I'll lose 5% on the course, plus the associate dean of the faculty will be notified and i'll have a permanent flag on my academic record

Anyone else have the similar experience?

gosh i feel like crap right now............
i don't know how I am going to survive the rest of the term with a 2.5% assignment + 5% = 7.5% handicap in one of my most hopeful courses

[yellow_munky]

Oh wow that really sucks!

I thought my life sucks at my uc because of the workload, but yours, wow. I really feel sorry for you. Fortunately, this type of thing have never happened to me and I hope that it never does.

I hope things get better for you though. Try to cheer though!

[joogrlpekaun]

It does suck, to be sure, but you can't really play the innocent card when you willingly gave your friend the code. You aren't in a position to feel angry at anyone but yourself, actually, because you knew what you were doing; you just thought nobody would notice. Unfortunately for you guys, that "help" ended up hurting you both. What I would suggest in the future in similar situations is that if you really want to help a friend, give the friend suggestions about what might work, but don't ever let anyone actually copy your work or part of it unless it's actually a group grade of some sort. I know you were just trying to be nice, but it's not worth the consequences.

Good luck.

[tsukemene123]

This sort of happened to me before. My friend asked to take a look at my essay for a writing class so she could get some ideas because she was having writer's block. Apparently she thought it was okay to paraphrase all of my sentences and, in one part, lift an entire paragraph, word for word, from my essay. This was incredibly stupid because we use Turn It In, which obviously red flagged our essays. I had to speak to my teacher about it and defend my writing. Luckily, my teacher was really familiar with my writing style and recognized it right away, and trusted me enough to tell my friend's teacher that my friend was the one who plagiarized off of me. My friend didn't get any punishment at all. On one hand, I'm glad that she got away with it because she's my friend, but on the other hand, I sort of wished she had at least gotten a slap on the wrist, if not a more serious punishment.


In any case, words can't even describe the stress and frustration I felt. Most universities have a no-tolerance policy for plagiarism, and mine is no exception. She apologized to me but didn't seem to realize the magnitude of her actions--both how stupid and inconsiderate they were. The fact that she complained to me about how stressed out she was over the whole ordeal only bothered me even more; I was just as stressed as her, and I wouldn't even have been in the situation if it hadn't been for her ignorance. It's something you get over eventually, though...

[Prot]

Plagiarism policy at my school punishes both the one that shared and the one that copied. If you want to help a friend, do it the long way and actually help them rather than giving what you did. That way, they won't consciously or unconsciously copy your work and they will actually learn in the process and you will be reviewing the material.

[mojomunkeez]

I hope he didn't copy your spelling, too

[THEmerryJANE]

Lol you would think changing variable names and // comments would look like different code but it's quite obvious when someone has done that.

Sometimes for our programming assignments, the book would start you off with some code just to help you out, but if the instructor thought you stole it line for line then he took major points off. I guess because there are a million different ways you can program things and get it to work, they just want you to figure it out on your own.

[abusegirl]

you gave him the code so he could change a few things here and there.

which is what he did.

so now why do you feel violated?

[vectorzz]

well i duno....I never said i felt violated

I just feel like it's such a waste
but I worked really hard on the assignments and he didn't
I even got the bonus on that assignment

but now all that hardwork is going down the drain and there's even a 5% course deduction, which is worth 2 assignments

[watcher]

well i duno....I never said i felt violated

I just feel like it's such a waste
but I worked really hard on the assignments and he didn't
I even got the bonus on that assignment

but now all that hardwork is going down the drain and there's even a 5% course deduction, which is worth 2 assignments

i got caught for CS plagiarism once. nowadays, software that perform diffs are pretty accurate. they'll even locate chunks of code that have been moved to other parts of the application. the only REAL way to trick it is to understand what the app is doing and rewriting it [which takes probably as much time as doing it on your own.. haha]. usually this can happen automatically by optimizing your code.

i still got a B in my class. i got 0 on the project and a 10% knockdown. turned out my final grade was a 95% and got knocked to 85... haha... guess i was lucky... sorta...

[Take Five]

i don't think my teacher accused me directly, but he had suspicions about my hw. it was weird cuz i didn't copy off of anyone and nobody copied off of me. didn't make any freaking sense. anyway, i wrote him an email and talked to him and he talked to my group members(although this wasn't a group assignment) and they backed me up on it and i got a C. yay?

[watcher]

usually, if there is no accomplice, you can get out of it by explaining your code and showing you understand what you're doing. if two people are involved, however, it gets tricky

[abusegirl]

well i duno....I never said i felt violated

I just feel like it's such a waste
but I worked really hard on the assignments and he didn't
I even got the bonus on that assignment

but now all that hardwork is going down the drain and there's even a 5% course deduction, which is worth 2 assignments

well that's what i took from your post. you aren't the victim...not by a long shot. but you did show bad judgment.

friend or not, if he didn't do his assignment you should not have given yours to him for him to play around with. Uni is not like high school. The standards are MUCH higher and any professor worth their job WILL check assignments.

just take the deduction and learn from it. never let anyone use your work. you arent helping yourself or your friend like that. and anyone willing to ask to leech off your work isn't a friend anyway.

[biglaughter]

Try to forget about it. People make mistakes, but the important thing is that they learn from it and not to do it again. Life still goes on, I know it's not something you can forget in an instance, but the more you think about it...it's going to make your life more miserable. Everyone cheats, but you were one of the unfortunate one that was caught.

[sushiwhore]

well at least they didnt say you wee the one plagiarizing... otherwise i'd be pissed off i'ld learn form this situation and not even let your friend see your code.

[watcher]

well that's what i took from your post. you aren't the victim...not by a long shot. but you did show bad judgment.

friend or not, if he didn't do his assignment you should not have given yours to him for him to play around with. Uni is not like high school. The standards are MUCH higher and any professor worth their job WILL check assignments.

just take the deduction and learn from it. never let anyone use your work. you arent helping yourself or your friend like that. and anyone willing to ask to leech off your work isn't a friend anyway.

i think the OP feels bad enough already, and realizes the mistake. why you being so hard on the guy?

[abusegirl]

^ such is the way of life. In the real world..no one will soften things up for you to swallow. And as mean as I may sound...which I thought I was being pretty nice....if the OP can internalize this ...psh...three-in-one lesson deal straight from Dr. Cal (no I'm not a doc >_<):

1. no one likes cheaters or people associated with cheaters. so don't cheat and you'll be well liked.
2. friends don't steal your hard work and pass it off as their own OR allow you to offer it to them. Remove such people from your life and the drama goes away.
3. if you're gonna do something make damn sure you dont get caught. keeps you out of jail, helps you keep your job, helps you keep your spouse and family.

I'm just trying to teach...TEEAAACH! *pushes up glasses* mmkay?

[watcher]

^ such is the way of life. In the real world..no one will soften things up for you to swallow. And as mean as I may sound...which I thought I was being pretty nice....if the OP can internalize this ...psh...three-in-one lesson deal straight from Dr. Cal (no I'm not a doc >_<):

1. no one likes cheaters or people associated with cheaters. so don't cheat and you'll be well liked.
2. friends don't steal your hard work and pass it off as their own OR allow you to offer it to them. Remove such people from your life and the drama goes away.
3. if you're gonna do something make damn sure you dont get caught. keeps you out of jail, helps you keep your job, helps you keep your spouse and family.

I'm just trying to teach...TEEAAACH! *pushes up glasses* mmkay?

lol... i dont think that's a great thing to teach... there's no guarantee you'll never get caught.
anyways.. seems like the OP got the point. just seemed like you were hitting a nail that was already all the way in. thas all
see ya later doc!!

ps. when it comes to the real world, as long as you don't get your company in trouble and you can do whatever it takes to maximize profits, in most cases it doesn't matter whether or not you cheat. how long have you been workin in the 'real world'? i've been out of school for about 6 years, workin full time in the software/financial industry, and that's the conclusion i've made for now. cheers

oh.. and for all you college heads not to get the wrong idea, im not endorsing cheating at all. don't do it and live with integrity. i'm actually trying to say that 'reputation' is not always bound to one's cheating habits. if you show you can perform, companies will take you in.

[abusegirl]

^ ah ah ah...I didn't equate work and people not liking cheating. just people in general ..and they dont like cheats...or rather people they know cheat. if you're known as a cheater people look at you differently. well lemme rephrase that...if people know you're a cheat and can't lie to themselves easily enough to believe you aren't....yeah...bad you.

in reference to jobs i said dont get caught with whatever you do (meaning immorally or illegally). not a good thing.

and wtf...the corporate world shouldn't even enter the equation. almost every single person of any status cheats. it's how they get to the top. losers. What happened to integrity in business? ah the evils of money. tsk tsk.

anyway as for the real world, I have 1 year on you buddy. BOW DOWN TO MY SUPERIOR OWNAGE! or at least gimme some cookies...chocolate chip please.

[watcher]

^ ah ah ah...I didn't equate work and people not liking cheating. just people in general ..and they dont like cheats...or rather people they know cheat. if you're known as a cheater people look at you differently. well lemme rephrase that...if people know you're a cheat and can't lie to themselves easily enough to believe you aren't....yeah...bad you.

in reference to jobs i said dont get caught with whatever you do (meaning immorally or illegally). not a good thing.

and wtf...the corporate world shouldn't even enter the equation. almost every single person of any status cheats. it's how they get to the top. losers. What happened to integrity in business? ah the evils of money. tsk tsk.

anyway as for the real world, I have 1 year on you buddy. BOW DOWN TO MY SUPERIOR OWNAGE! or at least gimme some cookies...chocolate chip please.

i thought we were talkin about impact on cheating in terms of school/work? why mention 'real world' when the principles of cheating are the same across any age, or even use a suggestive term like 'real world?' and are you serious about being in the field 7 years? you dont even sound like 20 to me. let alone 25+

anyways... you can have a steak. i dont do cookies...