[x`monsterr]

[lovablekrnstar63]

god i love gatsby
mm
how about class distinction?
(the nouve riche vs the upper class)
the west egg vs east egg
color symbolism
(color symbolism is a good one for gatsby)

to name a few.
gatsby is a really rich novel, if you get into it

[prisonerzero]

Ugh, how I hated Gatsby...

[pxd]

The main thing would be on the class difference as mentioned before.
You could also write about the falseness of the American Dream, represented by Gatsby as a parvenu who succeeds in gaining wealth but not class.

[lxh]

Symbolism of the color White
Impossibility of the American Dream
Connection of Fitzgerald's life and The Great Gatsby.

I <3 Gatsby ~ !

[x`monsterr]

thanks for the ideas u guys


i hav TONS of probably topics but i hav no idea what my ARGUMENT wuld be for any of them =\
help? basically i dun kno what my "point" is. the "so what?"

gahhh.... but i rly do luv this book. its so sad tho... poor gatsby

[unbleached]

^ So exactly what is the essay supposed to be? I'm a bit confused. Are you supposed to present an argument for anything in the book?

[x`monsterr]

uhh.. one sec, i'll go type up the essay topics thing tomorrow mornin it's a bit late right now =x

but by argument, i mean the point of the thesis cause u know how every essay/thesis has to have an argument. it's what your trying to prove and etc.

hm i'll be back 2morrow morn with the essay sheet

[xsilentangel]

I just wrote a paper on the novel!
I wrote about the three central female characters; Myrtle, Daisy and Jordan, comparing and contrasting them and how they played part in the novel and how they represented women of that time.
There's many topics I can throw out; the fall of the American Dream (Gatsby), the selfishness and carelessness of Daisy and Tom, the difference between the West Egg and the East Egg, how Gatsby was truly "Great"
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[lovablekrnstar63]

no offense
i dont mean to insult your intelligence
but by asking us what your argument should be for these various topics for gatsby
its saying you dont have any analysis of the novel
i mean, you should be able to argue a side for all these topics if you really studied the novel
you wouldnt need our help

but hey. thats just what i think

[x`monsterr]

no offense taken
but idk, i'm just horrible with essays =( but somehow i ended up in AP composition... lol
it's not that i don't have any analysis, give me a topic and i could probably argue it successfully
but my trouble is coming up with something to argue.. if that makes any sense

[x`monsterr]

updateee.. help pleeaseee =((((

[iMMA D0Rk XD]

The miserable state of the Valley of Ashes and the many activities that take place within, such as Tom and Myrtle’s affair and Myrtle’s death, reveal how unaffected the rich are from their actions and how the poor suffer from theirs, along with those from the rich.

Doesn`t this contradict what you`re saying? You said the rich are unaffected, but then u said they suffer along with the poor...I would definitely change the topic from west egg vs. east egg, much easier trust me

[x`monsterr]

^ i meant that the poor suffer because of their own actions and then also suffer from the actions of the rich, not that the rich suffer with the poor.
yeah, my wording is bad =x but idk how to fix it without saying out that long sentence i just typed ^ =_=

[tofu_taro]

how about changing that thesis sentence to:
The miserable state of the Valley of Ashes and the many activities that take place within, such as Tom and Myrtle's affair and Myrtle's death, reveal how unaffected the rich are from their actions while the poor suffer from their actions as well as those of the rich.
Does that help the sentence make more sense? lol i just wrote a paper on the Great Gatsby so I can see where you're going with this. I wrote about the women characters Daisy, Myrtle and Jordan though.
Maybe for some topics you can try writing about how Daisy and Tom can do terrible things and somehow come out okay in the end. And compare Mr.Wilson's life with the life in the West and East Egg.

[azngirl1114]

"behind in this industrial growth" (maybe sounds better, idk up to you)
"breeze on by without a scratch" bit too cliche, i think..once again up to you
clarify "their" in thesis statement; it's a bit vague
good writing, much better than me...cuz i'm lazy lol

[guiltysky]

not exactly your topic but you could also talk about destruction through modernization

[mojomunkeez]

Connect your first few sentences together; they read extremely choppily. Hint: use semi-colons, they make you look smarter than you really are.

[Xingda]

what do you guys think of my intro/thesis?

The Roarin’ 20’s was a time of excess and gaiety. Everywhere, people were moving up, both in wealth and social status; it was a time of change and progression. However, not everybody was raking in the fortunes of the time, many were left behind in this burst of industrialization. In F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby, the Valley of Ashes, an industrial wasteland between West Egg and New York, is used to reveal how the poor suffer the many consequences of their actions, while the rich breeze on by without a scratch. The miserable state of the Valley of Ashes and the many activities that take place within, such as Tom and Myrtle’s affair and Myrtle’s death, reveal [how unaffected the rich are from their actions and how the poor suffer from theirs, along with those from the rich.]

the last sentence is horrible... which is bad, cause that's my thesis! (at least, ithink it is haha)
please help me clean it up/fix it?

i'm trying to say that the rich can do whatever they want and not suffer while the poor suffer the consequences of their own actions along with the actions of the rich people. i just don't know how to word that nicely =( the intro is really bad too... D=

any kind of feedback would be appreciated, thanks!

your last sentence is a bit confusing but why not just use what you just wrote (bolded) but make it a little more sophisticated: The parallel between the settings and the happenings within reveal that while the rich are able to flagrantly indulge in immoral acts with little consequence, the poor must face the consequences of the actions of the rich in addition to their own.

[x`monsterr]

edited.
thank you for those suggestions given. i have incorporated most of them in my edit.

any more suggestions? this paper is a huge part of my grade and i don't want to mess it up..