[Tuffcore]

I am atm confused and dont know wot to do, i am not sure of what i want, i do hv feeligns for her, but i hv been supressing them due to the whole complicated situation. What should i do ??? It has been suggested that we 'trial' date in private for a while, taking things really slow and see how it goes from there.

I often see one girl passed around a crew of guys and it just makes me wonder what's going on. I generally make a rule to never go for my buddy's Xs especially close buds. It's a simple rule that's often reinforced when me and my buds go out to chill with some beers and talk about our big catches. We'll share stories about girls we've had and these stories are more than enough to turn me off from their Xs. Come to think of it, some of their fetishes are just disturbing...

Anyways, i'm not sure how far your friend got with this girl but if you're open minded to this stuff then just go for her. If your friend doesn't even hang out with you anymore then that's even better. It should help make things easier. It's actually not too bad an idea to start off in private first before making things public.

[*wenDzie^^*]

i am really untrusting for some reasons... and i dunno if its because its from past experience or family life...

this is whats happening... when my bf and his exgf broke up and he got with me, he didn't tell her the reason why he broke up with her was coz he started to fall for me, he kinda stopped talking to her and ignored her so she can break up with him...

he argued that if he broke up with him, she wont be able to handle it coz shes emotionally unstable and plus, shes an international student and has absolutely no friends here so if she found out, she'll be devastated..

so we've been together for 2-3months now.. and she still doesnt know he has a new gf.. she's kinda delusional to a point where she doesnt care if he doesnt call her, if he doesnt love her - in her head, he loves her and in her head, as long as she loves him, its ok..

but thing is, he doesnt try to tell her he has a gf either (which is me) and he knows how much i dislike him talking to her (because in her head, there's still a chance between them)... but yet he still talks to her behind my back and when i ask him about it, he argues that shes going thru a rough time or that hes only merely seeing how shes going

my bf makes me check his email for him sometimes and i see emails from her, stating that she hates arguing with him but yet shed rather argue with him and still be with him rather than not being with him at all.. and reading that makes me feel like hes probably back with her, making her think they are together but still stay with me at the same time (does it make sense?)

i love him.. and i want to trust him but everytime i question about her to him, its like.. i can't believe him becoz everything he says seem to be a lie itself... i am convinced that hes probably talking to her every night
and everything and when hes "lonely", he'll come to me...


i dunno what was the point of this post.....

i just want to vent out my frustration, confusion.. every time something good happens (like today), its perfect, and then it gets ruined (with the whole email/sms/blog from her)..
sigh***

[Tuffcore]

i am really untrusting for some reasons... and i dunno if its because its from past experience or family life...

Sounds to me like there's good reason to not trust this guy.

this is whats happening... when my bf and his exgf broke up and he got with me, he didn't tell her the reason why he broke up with her was coz he started to fall for me, he kinda stopped talking to her and ignored her so she can break up with him...

he argued that if he broke up with him, she wont be able to handle it coz shes emotionally unstable and plus, shes an international student and has absolutely no friends here so if she found out, she'll be devastated..

That's a good one. If this trick works, i've got to use it next time.

Honestly, I don't think it's fair to you nor the other girl that he didn't officially end his relationship with her first. It's no wonder she still thinks she can get back with him. She doesn't think its over because he never broke up with her and she doesn't even know you exist. It's not her fault. It's your bf's fault.

so we've been together for 2-3months now.. and she still doesnt know he has a new gf.. she's kinda delusional to a point where she doesnt care if he doesnt call her, if he doesnt love her - in her head, he loves her and in her head, as long as she loves him, its ok..

but thing is, he doesnt try to tell her he has a gf either (which is me) and he knows how much i dislike him talking to her (because in her head, there's still a chance between them)... but yet he still talks to her behind my back and when i ask him about it, he argues that shes going thru a rough time or that hes only merely seeing how shes going

Those excuses are not acceptable... unless you like to share bfs.

He doesn't have to be a jerk to the other girl by crushing her heart or anything but he must be fair to both of you by letting her know about you. Tell him he shouldn't be such a wimp about hurting the other girl's feelings because he's hurting you equally as much. Just imagine the tables turning and he leaves you for another girl without you knowing. Wouldn't you be pissed off if you found out a year later that he's been seeing another girl for a whole year without you knowing? Making you think you've still got a chance to get back with him?

my bf makes me check his email for him sometimes and i see emails from her, stating that she hates arguing with him but yet shed rather argue with him and still be with him rather than not being with him at all.. and reading that makes me feel like hes probably back with her, making her think they are together but still stay with me at the same time (does it make sense?)

If he's too pussy to tell the other girl that it's over, then maybe you should... through his email account.

i love him.. and i want to trust him but everytime i question about her to him, its like.. i can't believe him becoz everything he says seem to be a lie itself... i am convinced that hes probably talking to her every night
and everything and when hes "lonely", he'll come to me...
i dunno what was the point of this post.....

i just want to vent out my frustration, confusion.. every time something good happens (like today), its perfect, and then it gets ruined (with the whole email/sms/blog from her)..
sigh***

"I can't give you a sure-fire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." - Herbert Bayard Swope (1882 - 1958)

Your BF, in trying to please both you and the other girl at the same time, is ultimately pleasing neither at the same time. Tell him to stop being a pussy about hurting the other girl's feelings because he's ultimately hurting yours.

[aznxinvazn]

If he's too pussy to tell the other girl that it's over, then maybe you should... through his email account.

I'd like to know how that turns out. It isn't gonna be pretty for anyone.

[*wenDzie^^*]

Sounds to me like there's good reason to not trust this guy.
That's a good one. If this trick works, i've got to use it next time.

Honestly, I don't think it's fair to you nor the other girl that he didn't officially end his relationship with her first. It's no wonder she still thinks she can get back with him. She doesn't think its over because he never broke up with her and she doesn't even know you exist. It's not her fault. It's your bf's fault.
Those excuses are not acceptable... unless you like to share bfs.

He doesn't have to be a jerk to the other girl by crushing her heart or anything but he must be fair to both of you by letting her know about you. Tell him he shouldn't be such a wimp about hurting the other girl's feelings because he's hurting you equally as much. Just imagine the tables turning and he leaves you for another girl without you knowing. Wouldn't you be pissed off if you found out a year later that he's been seeing another girl for a whole year without you knowing? Making you think you've still got a chance to get back with him?
If he's too pussy to tell the other girl that it's over, then maybe you should... through his email account.
"I can't give you a sure-fire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." - Herbert Bayard Swope (1882 - 1958)

Your BF, in trying to please both you and the other girl at the same time, is ultimately pleasing neither at the same time. Tell him to stop being a pussy about hurting the other girl's feelings because he's ultimately hurting yours.

thanx for ur advice... it does seem like he's a bit of pussy for not telling her ey? i am pissed off with that as well.. i was just thinking today, if it was me happening to, how would i feel?

but i think its kinda bad on me as well, since i know this girl exist, that shes out there u know what i mean? whereas she doesnt know me and i dunno, it just seemed a bit better.. im making excuse for myself

I'd like to know how that turns out. It isn't gonna be pretty for anyone.

i think ur right.. i dont think i have the rights to do that... thats really bad... it will only cause more trouble for everyone...

maybe she found out about me today... she called him while we were together but he told her his sleeping (which was true) so i causally asked 'who was that'? before he hung up.. and i think she heard me.. he was kinda pissed off, asking why did ask that..


hmmm.. thanx guys..
lets just hope he doesnt check this thread coz i went on soompi using his comp today haha

[Bellatrix]

thank you moogles, Tuffcore, and Shinobu. your advice is really helpful. i think i might have made a huge mistake without thinking it throughly.

i'm not going to confess at all and just wait and see how X's relationship goes with Y. i always tell myself that he's not worth it, yet at the same time how he treats me makes it harder to get over him. some of the things he does really touches me. but with time, i'll get over it.

he may have said some things that will turn the relationship sour, but it looks like he's now trying to take responsiblity in his relationship with Y. X confessed that Y was convinently available since she went over to his place the night he broke up with his gf and asked if he wanted a massage. basically, my rather traditional close friend Y was just asking for it. things kind of just happened i guess. yet, it's not exactly a one night stand. they actually had sex 3 times according to Y and in a really irresponsible way. she could've been pregnant. i don't know what to think anymore. i won't blame him for being a guy and needing sex, but what happened still bugs me.

they are trying to keep this relationship a secret, where the only person who is supposed to know about it is me amongst our close group of friends. i think it's the proper thing to do since X just got out of a relationship and people will talk about Y and what the hell she is doing with him right after he got out of a relationship. at least they both know what shame is.

they act couple like sometimes when its just the 3 of us in private and other times, they are fighting. and the worse part is, X wants me to take part in this relationship for some reason. and once he even asked me when they ever get in a fight, what would i do. well, they are already in a fight and i don't want to take part in it. i'm tired of trying to help them out. i just can't figure out what X is thinking. and i think through this whole situation, my friendship with Y is starting to change. i'm getting annoyed by her. the way she easily gave herself away who just got out of a relationship really made me lose respect for her, the way she handles the situation, how hypocritical some of the things she said, how she handles the relationship, how she whines all the time. through this whole thing, she just totally displayed herself completely and i don't like what i'm seeing. i just hope we can keep this friendship as it is.

these days, X seems to be treating me better than Y. i think it was triggered by when this one guy just randomly tried to flirt with me in front of him. and the other night, one of our close guy friend was teasing me and said some really scandalous stuff. X gets a little serious when those things happened, i can tell he does get jealous. these days, he also gives subtle hints of wanting me to forgive him and wait for him. sometimes i hinted that i'm going to move on and other times i just played dumb. i'm not going to confess to him but at the same time i can't continue on like this.

another long post from me...heh.

[tee.pee]

i am really untrusting for some reasons... and i dunno if its because its from past experience or family life...

this is whats happening... when my bf and his exgf broke up and he got with me, he didn't tell her the reason why he broke up with her was coz he started to fall for me, he kinda stopped talking to her and ignored her so she can break up with him...

he argued that if he broke up with him, she wont be able to handle it coz shes emotionally unstable and plus, shes an international student and has absolutely no friends here so if she found out, she'll be devastated..

so we've been together for 2-3months now.. and she still doesnt know he has a new gf.. she's kinda delusional to a point where she doesnt care if he doesnt call her, if he doesnt love her - in her head, he loves her and in her head, as long as she loves him, its ok..

but thing is, he doesnt try to tell her he has a gf either (which is me) and he knows how much i dislike him talking to her (because in her head, there's still a chance between them)... but yet he still talks to her behind my back and when i ask him about it, he argues that shes going thru a rough time or that hes only merely seeing how shes going

my bf makes me check his email for him sometimes and i see emails from her, stating that she hates arguing with him but yet shed rather argue with him and still be with him rather than not being with him at all.. and reading that makes me feel like hes probably back with her, making her think they are together but still stay with me at the same time (does it make sense?)

i love him.. and i want to trust him but everytime i question about her to him, its like.. i can't believe him becoz everything he says seem to be a lie itself... i am convinced that hes probably talking to her every night
and everything and when hes "lonely", he'll come to me...
i dunno what was the point of this post.....

i just want to vent out my frustration, confusion.. every time something good happens (like today), its perfect, and then it gets ruined (with the whole email/sms/blog from her)..
sigh***

IMHO, women have great instincts. And i'll bet you have too. In this matter, don't let your heart do the "deciding". If your instncts tell you not to trust the guy then don't. Don't put yourself in a position
where you will wait and hope that your guy will do something completely regarding the other girl. It doesn't make any sense. I can tell that you wanted the relationship works but, in this kind of situation, you'll end up miserable, i know its too cliche but you're better off with someone who will truly respect and love you and reciprocate your feelings.

If you can't completely trust him, then you can't completely accept him and you can't completely love him.
Just my 2 cents.

[*wenDzie^^*]

IMHO, women have great instincts. And i'll bet you have too. In this matter, don't let your heart do the "deciding". If your instncts tell you not to trust the guy then don't. Don't put yourself in a position
where you will wait and hope that your guy will do something completely regarding the other girl. It doesn't make any sense. I can tell that you wanted the relationship works but, in this kind of situation, you'll end up miserable, i know its too cliche but you're better off with someone who will truly respect and love you and reciprocate your feelings.

If you can't completely trust him, then you can't completely accept him and you can't completely love him.
Just my 2 cents.

i have decided to listen to my head... and end it before its too late
he wouldn't confess up about the other girl he was seeing - he was still headstrong about it, about how i'm wrong
it ended it really nasty over the fone with him screaming and yelling at me.. making me feel really crap..
im trying to be civilised but he won't give me a chance

my head says i did the right thing

but my heart, is in so much pain atm... scared that i made a mistake..

he said, at this rate, he wont want to see me for a year, maybe forever... and its not angry talk

oh well... eventually i'll move on

thanx guys for helping

it's been too hectic... and i need to study.. haha

[Tuffcore]

i have decided to listen to my head... and end it before its too late
he wouldn't confess up about the other girl he was seeing - he was still headstrong about it, about how i'm wrong
it ended it really nasty over the fone with him screaming and yelling at me.. making me feel really crap..
im trying to be civilised but he won't give me a chance

my head says i did the right thing

but my heart, is in so much pain atm... scared that i made a mistake..

he said, at this rate, he wont want to see me for a year, maybe forever... and its not angry talk

oh well... eventually i'll move on

thanx guys for helping

it's been too hectic... and i need to study.. haha

Hey sorry to hear it ended terribly but apparently it was easier for him to yell and scream at you than it was to confess to the other girl. You deserve better than that for sure. I don't think you should feel crappy. He's the one who should feel crappy. You made the right choice.

[*wenDzie^^*]

Hey sorry to hear it ended terribly but apparently it was easier for him to yell and scream at you than it was to confess to the other girl. You deserve better than that for sure. I don't think you should feel crappy. He's the one who should feel crappy. You made the right choice.

i hope so too...
thanx

--

lol more angry outbursts from me on the next post

[Shinobu]

i have decided to listen to my head... and end it before its too late
he wouldn't confess up about the other girl he was seeing - he was still headstrong about it, about how i'm wrong
it ended it really nasty over the fone with him screaming and yelling at me.. making me feel really crap..
im trying to be civilised but he won't give me a chance

my head says i did the right thing

but my heart, is in so much pain atm... scared that i made a mistake..

he said, at this rate, he wont want to see me for a year, maybe forever... and its not angry talk

oh well... eventually i'll move on

thanx guys for helping

it's been too hectic... and i need to study.. haha

The hell? What's wrong with this picture here? This guy is in the wrong and he's yelling and screaming? Something is not clearing up in his head. You made the right decision.

[*wenDzie^^*]

The hell? What's wrong with this picture here? This guy is in the wrong and he's yelling and screaming? Something is not clearing up in his head. You made the right decision.

thank you..
u should have heard what he was saying to me..
when i was saying "if u told me the truth, i'll forgive u.." <- i can't believe i actually is giving him a chance to redeem himself
then he's like "shut the f* up!!! no you don't understand. u think u know the truth, ur in ur own little deluded world so why bother telling u the truth if u already know the truth? go f* urself" *and then he hang up on me
and i'm just like...

if someone accused me of cheating, id do anything i can to tell them they've mistaken, give myself a clean name.. but this is the way he deals with things.. maybe i did accuse him wrongly.. (which im scared of).. i dunno what he's trying to pull

but knowing him, he's out with the boys and getting drunk to pick up more girls... and then after a week, he'll feel better and call me to apologise...

[tee.pee]

i have decided to listen to my head... and end it before its too late
he wouldn't confess up about the other girl he was seeing - he was still headstrong about it, about how i'm wrong
it ended it really nasty over the fone with him screaming and yelling at me.. making me feel really crap..
im trying to be civilised but he won't give me a chance

my head says i did the right thing

but my heart, is in so much pain atm... scared that i made a mistake..

he said, at this rate, he wont want to see me for a year, maybe forever... and its not angry talk

oh well... eventually i'll move on

thanx guys for helping

it's been too hectic... and i need to study.. haha

you did the right thing. trust me. i know it'll hurt a lot but everything's gonna be alright. i always believed that time heals all wounds. Our hearts were built to survive these kinds of situation.

Just focus your attention to things that matters most as of this moment. Good luck and god bless!

[Dahmanegi]

Even if he was wrongly accused, a reasonable person still wouldn't scream and cuss at his girlfriend defending himself. If anything, he revealed his true self to you, and now its up to you to realize if thats the kind of guy you want to be with.

[ayame]

I'm so sad.

My boyfriend and I have been going out for almost two years. We're really compatible. we laugh a lot and have fun doing things together... we don't have any "real" problems except maybe a disagreement here or there. Last month he just broke up with me because I kept him on the phone for 6 minutes. ( he was at home.. doing NOTHING.) He says that i "hurt him" when i keep him on the phone because i don't care about what he wants... WTF???? what kinda BS is that? so i complained... and he got even more angry.

Right before we broke up he started yelling at me and he was just really mean... it's not like him at all... i think he might be depressed... because for the past four or five months he's been sleeping so much. (12-14 hours a day... ) he used to be so caring and attentive and then he just suddenly changed about 5 months ago...

it's so weird because ever since we've broken up, i'm really sad and he doesn't seem to be affected at all... In fact, he's acting like a total jerk now. he's insensitive and he says it's MY FAULT that he's acting this way... I cussed him out for that... (i don't cuss at all... so it was really hurtful...) even though i tell myself that it's not true, in a way, i feel that maybe it might be a bit true because I think that I gave him more affection that he was used to. (his exes didn't give a crap about him and they never wanted to talk to him...)

it just totally sucks. even though we're broken up and he's prolly doing better than me.. i still feel like i love him... I just can't turn off these feelings... i wish i could so badly... it would just be sooo much easier!

grah. i hate that i feel this way. HATE IT. hopefully when school starts again... i won't have time to feel so sad anymore..

grrr.

[tee.pee]

@ayame

if you want to save the relationship, then you guys have to sit down and talk. communication is vital in every relationship. Going out for two years is serious, and to think that exchanging those 2 years over keeping him on the phone for 6 minutes is nonsense, there must be a pretty serious reason behind why he broke up with you. Maybe he just used the "phone situation" as an excuse to get out of your relationship.

If you wanted to know the reason, then you have to talk, if you don't care at all then you better go on with your life. just my 2 cents. good day!

[Koreanbabo]

You know sometimes to be totally honest, does anyone really know what love is? I mean people think when you can't live without a certain special person or feel "different" around that person, they believe its love they're feeling, but in my opinion, I think a lot of people are flawed in their view of love, especially married couples these days. Called me old fashioned but I believe when two people get married, they're "supposed" to be with each other the rest of their lives. If you're going to stand in front of an altar and minister, profess your love to that special someone, only to get a divorce a couple of years later, in my view, that wasn't love at all. I think society has changed the way we view love. Maybe its because people think that something like true love really never existed?? Lets get back to the basics of what love really is. The Bible describes love as many things. "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." That last line really gets to me though. "Love never fails." We all should know that in a world like today, love indeed does fail. Everytime some psychopath parent kills his or her child, everytime a person is murdered in cold blood, everytime a couple steps into a lawyer's office to sign divorce papers, we know these are examples of love obviously at failure. The whole point of this is, I guess everyone has their own unique perspective view on what true love is. To someone, it could be that someone special that does everything for him or her. For guys, maybe its the girl that lets you drink with your friends and does everything for you. For girls, maybe its that guy that brings you gifts and recites poems to you everyday. I'm really not sure. I personally have never had ANY experience whatsoever with love. In 22 years of my life, I've never had a girlfriend, never had the guts to speak to the girl I had a crush on, never even held a girl's hand before. So I guess, I'm the last person on earth qualified to speak about love and relationships. But I like to think, maybe one day if I ever do get a girl, I'd like to experience the kind of "love" that I feel is true.

[Majah Flavah]

I personally have never had ANY experience whatsoever with love. In 22 years of my life, I've never had a girlfriend, never had the guts to speak to the girl I had a crush on, never even held a girl's hand before. So I guess, I'm the last person on earth qualified to speak about love and relationships. But I like to think, maybe one day if I ever do get a girl, I'd like to experience the kind of "love" that I feel is true.

i've noticed it's always the ones who've been single for their entire lives that have a field day preaching to the rest of us about what perfect love really is. instead of sitting in your room contemplating the nature of love and how the rest of us are screwing it up, you need to go out into the real world and attempt to experience it first hand yourself.

maybe once you get a girlfriend, you'll understand love isn't like a disney movie with rainbows and butterflies. love takes sweat, tears and dedication. it even requires heartbreak sometimes to redefine what love can mean to a person, but it's pretty ignorant of you to think that married couples who eventually end up in divorce were never in love. that's pretty much a slap across the face to every individual on these boards who has or knows someone with divorced parents. with the gift we've all received to love and fall in love, we've also received the burden of being able to stop loving someone and fall out of love as well. it's what makes love what it is... and what makes it so distinct and ideal apart from the rest of life's virtues is the fact that it is something you cannot control no matter how hard you try, and it's something you cannot understand no matter how much you contemplate it. you cannot practice to make it perfect, you cannot learn it, you cannot give it or take it unless your heart allows it.

love never fails. the only thing that's ever stopped love from doing its job has been our own logic, ego, and flaws. in the instances you pointed out, those are not cases of love failing but of us as imperfect people failing. honestly, i think you're pretty naive for a twenty-two year old. i'm going to be a bastard and assume you're some kind of hopeless romantic who sits in his room all day reading manga comics with pictures of "cute" girls all over your computer desktop and walls. you're also probably the type who fashions marrying his first girlfriend, but i'm going to set it straight right now... i believe you need at least one good heartbreak in your life to know what love really is. even if my assumptions are wrong, i feel as if you need a small reality check. no one said love couldn't be like the love you see in dramas, because it certainly can be. but the point is, in the end it will be nothing more or less than what you experience once you put your balls to the wall and put yourself out there... without all the unrealistic expectations and preconceived notions you probably already have.

no offense though, really.
i just like to keep it real, and that's the truth.

[Koreanbabo]

Never did I say love was picture perfect or something out of movies. What I posted up was if you read carefully, an opinion of what "I" think love has degraded into in today's society. Never once did I say love has to be this or love has to be that. The reason why I even added the part of my own non-existent relationship was not to show how pathetic I am or my naivete, but to strengthen the fact that this entire summary I made was simply put, an opinion that I had myself. And you speak about how love never fails. This phrase itself proves in reality just how naive YOU are in my opinion. For all the talk you have about how love takes work and time to mold, you should also take into consideration the factors that affect how people define what love really is. And I quote "love takes sweat, tears and dedication" from your post. Unfortunately, you fail to realize how idealistic those words are. Yes love does take time and much effort, but it hardly falls into a category of "never failing." Love does fail. Its because like you said, human logic, ego and flaws affect love that it does fail. Because in the end, love is an emotion. A feeling most shared by humans and animals. All those examples I gave you credit to imperfection. Imperfection in itself is too broad of a factor to use however. All humans are imperfect. You don't go around hearing criminals and couples saying they've killed or they've gotten a divorce because they were imperfect. If you take time to study the circumstances surrounding such specific events I've stated in my previous post, again "TO ME" it seems like a perfect example of how love fails in everyway. I never once in my post said that love is non existent or ignorant. In fact, if you read my post carefully, which I highly doubt you did, I was merely giving a view of what I believe love has become in today's society. And you say my comments are a slap in the face to the members of this board? Maybe you should go out and experience, not what love is, but what life is because believe it or not, there are many people out there today that feel the same way as I do about what love has become. Preaching isn't what I was doing. Simply sharing my opinions is what the purpose of these boards and this topic is about is it not?? I was merely trying to share an explantion of my own views of love and life. And really, if you're going to comment back about the post I made, at least make yourself seem somewhat mature. Making assumptions about someone you don't even know anything about is quite ignorant. I can sit here and type up a longer post about my life and experiences but you know what, you probably wouldn't even take me seriously anyway. So before you go around trying to "correct" other peoples' opinions, you should try explaining your point of view without such a negative approach. Because no matter what, we all can't think like you now can we?? I never stated anyone has to take me seriously or "convert" to my point of view, hence the reason why I stated that I have been single all my life. The whole point of my post was to share an intelligent and mature conversation with the people on this board. You start off politely but your assumptions about my own private life show me that what I said must of struck some kind of nerve for you. Unfortunately people will not take you seriously by you making such assumptions about their lives. That's actually incredibly rude and immature. Don't take offense to what I'm saying because again, its my own personal opinion. You're welcome to comment again if you feel you're ready to stop making such rude comments.

[Tuffcore]

Never did I say love was picture perfect or something out of movies.

You just went on about what love isn't but not once did you say what love is.

You quoted the Bible but then went on to criticize the last portion of it so i'm not even sure if that was to indicate you share the same perspective of love as a Christian or if you disagree with it. What is love suppose to be in your opinion? ...and if you don't know, then how do you know what it isn't suppose to be?