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#4351 User is offline   Pogichinoy 

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (takoyaki_ @ Dec 8 2008, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now my questions are - 1. if you were the guy, would you say 'yes' to let me stay at your place and go on a trip together one last time? i know we broke up.. but i know we both still love each other a lot. even during the breakup, we were really sad, but still thanked each other for the great times we've been through together - so it's not a messy breakup or anything. kind of mutual in a way since we both agreed on a lot of the issues at hand.

also, i was kind of hoping that we could go back to being gf-bf just for the month.. (no- i'm not an easy girl or a player by the way; we were both serious about each other). 2. if i asked him, do you guys think he'll agree to do it? i think he might agree because he's a go-with-the-flow guy, will probably still like me, short term thinker (he got into this r/s knowing that i'd have to go back to my own country soon). then again, he might not agree if he thinks it'll be weird or if he's trying hard to forget about me..

sorry this is so long!! advice needed!! thanks so much to all replies in advance!

1. If I was him, yes. If the guy is unattached to another girl, then I don't see why not he wouldn't agree with your idea. Unless of course, he is really scared that spending time with you will cause him to fight with his emotions and dreams to a point that will cause him to breakdown.

2. If I was him, yes. You two had a beautiful experience together, and I don't see what's wrong with enjoying it for one last time before you part, perhaps forever. Again, the issues explained in point 1 above would be applicable here as well.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:03 PM

@takoyaki: Imo, considering you've already broken up, you've got nothing to lose and a whole month to gain. Even though it's not going to last any longer than that, there's no reason you shouldn't be together when you have the chance. It's hard to say if he'll feel the same way about this (there's a chance he'll want to protect himself from further heartbreak, which I also think is understandable), but there's really only one way to find out.. I really can't predict what his answer will be, but I know I would have felt the same way you do. So... I say go for it smile.gif Good luck!
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:15 AM

Why do guys think that the term "Back away slowly" means that they need to defend themselves?

Just freaking let us girls rant and tell us it'll be okay. Why do you need to defend yourselves? We're irrational at the moment and we get it, we'll be rational in a bit and understand that it's not your fault. But why do you feel the need to defend yourselves?
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:40 AM

I don't think "back away slowly" is about being defensive, but more of a "I'd rather not get involved".



QUOTE (JDM6 @ Dec 5 2008, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody here actually stayed friends with an ex with no intention of getting back together? How good of a friend were you? Was it awkward?

Lets says you were together for over 5+ years , been through thick and thin, to heaven and hell. One day you ended up breaking up. It was a bad, bitter, very ugly break up. But as time goes by, the heart heals and learns to forgive. Because the both of you have been through so much, pratically grown up from teens to adult, would you stay friends after parting ways?

Unless we have children together, the bridges are burned. I don't believe in this "friends" business. It's too unsettling for me.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE (JDM6 @ Dec 5 2008, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody here actually stayed friends with an ex with no intention of getting back together? How good of a friend were you? Was it awkward?

Lets says you were together for over 5+ years , been through thick and thin, to heaven and hell. One day you ended up breaking up. It was a bad, bitter, very ugly break up. But as time goes by, the heart heals and learns to forgive. Because the both of you have been through so much, pratically grown up from teens to adult, would you stay friends after parting ways?


its been a year since my ex and i broke off our 3 year relationship. we are still friends. i made it clear though that we can still talk only until we start seeing other people(he disagrees with this but i really dont want to be "THAT ex gf"). my friends all tell me to stop talking to him at all, saying itll hurt me when he starts seeing other people, but i find it a bit cruel to just stop any type of communication with someone i care for, especially since it wasnt even a bad breakup. the reason was that we became more so best friends instead of lovers heh.

now, we are both dating other people and just a few minutes ago i told him its time to let it end for good even though i care for his well being. he said no way in hell and that he already told the girl hes dating that he's still good friends with me. he said she's fine with that(im thinking for now..). no matter how much she says its ok with her, i dont want to be that hated ex gf haha. so out of respect for the new girl and the guy im dating(who told me he doesnt want to meet my ex at all, even as friends), im walking out. i told him to pretend we dont know eachother in a few weeks when we see some friends play a show. he says it'll be weird. ill lose a friend in the process but i dont think its gonna kill both of us.

i think people can become friends though. its bittersweet when i hear about the new girl in his life but im more so happy than i am sad. bittersweet cause i miss/love that butterflies in your tummy feeling when you start to like someone. a little sad that person for him is no longer me.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 08:32 PM

Oh here I go again--woe about my parents.

So I've been hiding my relationship w/my boyfriend for about 4 months now. We decided it'd be best for us to do so first because of our age gap, second because my parents are somewhat strict? I guess I've changed a bit since we've gotten together...I've became more "human". I don't spend all my time with my face stuck into a book. Instead I go out more often, I actually feel happy...and my boyfriend and I are great. The longer we are together, the more I want to spend time with him...

And my parents have been snooping and they've kinda figured out I have a boyfriend based on checking the cell phone bill. My mother basically lectured me about how I'm screwing up my life, and karma is going to get me good by having a s/o. She also said that I'm a bad person and by having a boyfriend who's influencing me in the wrong way, he will never be accepted into the family blink.gif

...I didn't deny that I have one. But I didn't lie that I didn't. Honestly, my boyfriend is an amazing person. He works hard, never pressures me to do anything, if anything he supports my ambitions. He support his brother and parents and he's probably one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. It's not that he's influencing me in a negative way, I just want to spend more time with him because we have completely opposite schedules.

I'm not even sure what I'm asking. I just want some feedback because it sounds as if my mom has already decided she isn't willing to accept him. I don't want this to be a war between my parents and him. I just wish she'd leave me alone and let me do my own thing. It's so fricking frustrating...


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Posted 08 December 2008 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (tinasarangg @ Dec 8 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh here I go again--woe about my parents.

So I've been hiding my relationship w/my boyfriend for about 4 months now. We decided it'd be best for us to do so first because of our age gap, second because my parents are somewhat strict? I guess I've changed a bit since we've gotten together...I've became more "human". I don't spend all my time with my face stuck into a book. Instead I go out more often, I actually feel happy...and my boyfriend and I are great. The longer we are together, the more I want to spend time with him...

And my parents have been snooping and they've kinda figured out I have a boyfriend based on checking the cell phone bill. My mother basically lectured me about how I'm screwing up my life, and karma is going to get me good by having a s/o. She also said that I'm a bad person and by having a boyfriend who's influencing me in the wrong way, he will never be accepted into the family blink.gif

...I didn't deny that I have one. But I didn't lie that I didn't. Honestly, my boyfriend is an amazing person. He works hard, never pressures me to do anything, if anything he supports my ambitions. He support his brother and parents and he's probably one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. It's not that he's influencing me in a negative way, I just want to spend more time with him because we have completely opposite schedules.

I'm not even sure what I'm asking. I just want some feedback because it sounds as if my mom has already decided she isn't willing to accept him. I don't want this to be a war between my parents and him. I just wish she'd leave me alone and let me do my own thing. It's so fricking frustrating...

Well, when you have the capacity to stop depending on your parents, I think that would be the best time to slowly introduce your boyfriend to your parents. They cannot get to know what kind of person he is if they have never seen him. Also I would suggest doing this when you are independent completely from your parents because if there is any form of disagreement, there won't be bickering while you are still around the house. And an added bonus would be if you are still dating your boyfriend at this point, you should feel comfortable with introducing him.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (Prot @ Dec 7 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes and yes, I would want complete closure as well. No reason to deny what is fun and enjoyable in life.


haha thanks for your reply :]

QUOTE (Pogichinoy @ Dec 7 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. If I was him, yes. If the guy is unattached to another girl, then I don't see why not he wouldn't agree with your idea. Unless of course, he is really scared that spending time with you will cause him to fight with his emotions and dreams to a point that will cause him to breakdown.

2. If I was him, yes. You two had a beautiful experience together, and I don't see what's wrong with enjoying it for one last time before you part, perhaps forever. Again, the issues explained in point 1 above would be applicable here as well.


thanks for your reply! actually i'm really grateful for your reply especially, you seem to be quite an insightful advice giver on the L&R aspect ^^ of course, i'll understand if he doesn't want to go with my idea - like you said, of the fighting emotions thing. as for me - well i already gave him my heart (came out a little broken over our break up) but i'm willing to have the best time with him once again (maybe for the last time) and risk the pain of parting again.

QUOTE (Peppermint- @ Dec 7 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@takoyaki: Imo, considering you've already broken up, you've got nothing to lose and a whole month to gain. Even though it's not going to last any longer than that, there's no reason you shouldn't be together when you have the chance. It's hard to say if he'll feel the same way about this (there's a chance he'll want to protect himself from further heartbreak, which I also think is understandable), but there's really only one way to find out.. I really can't predict what his answer will be, but I know I would have felt the same way you do. So... I say go for it smile.gif Good luck!


aww thanks for your support! lets just hope he sees it the same way as i do too. this is such a cliche, but this is truly one of the moments where i want to live my life to the fullest, no regrets smile.gif
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (tinasarangg @ Dec 8 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh here I go again--woe about my parents.

So I've been hiding my relationship w/my boyfriend for about 4 months now. We decided it'd be best for us to do so first because of our age gap, second because my parents are somewhat strict? I guess I've changed a bit since we've gotten together...I've became more "human". I don't spend all my time with my face stuck into a book. Instead I go out more often, I actually feel happy...and my boyfriend and I are great. The longer we are together, the more I want to spend time with him...

And my parents have been snooping and they've kinda figured out I have a boyfriend based on checking the cell phone bill. My mother basically lectured me about how I'm screwing up my life, and karma is going to get me good by having a s/o. She also said that I'm a bad person and by having a boyfriend who's influencing me in the wrong way, he will never be accepted into the family blink.gif

...I didn't deny that I have one. But I didn't lie that I didn't. Honestly, my boyfriend is an amazing person. He works hard, never pressures me to do anything, if anything he supports my ambitions. He support his brother and parents and he's probably one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. It's not that he's influencing me in a negative way, I just want to spend more time with him because we have completely opposite schedules.

I'm not even sure what I'm asking. I just want some feedback because it sounds as if my mom has already decided she isn't willing to accept him. I don't want this to be a war between my parents and him. I just wish she'd leave me alone and let me do my own thing. It's so fricking frustrating...

We have a foreign exchange student living with us at the moment (Korean, high school), and I've been reminded once again how difficult parents can be sometimes. Her mom and dad will call, ask only about her grades, and then if they are not all straight A+s, go on to yell, scream, and otherwise make her feel like crap. She doesn't tell us this unless we ask... but we ask because we can freakin' hear the yelling coming from the phone, even from the next room over! Anyway, my wife explained it to her like this... she said, "you know, think of your parents as an archer, and you as an arrow. They have a target they want you to hit... they are going to notch you, pull you back, and then release you, at which time you will be freely flying through the air on your own... but, until then, the more they pull back and aim, the more tension and stress forms on the string and the notched arrow. It is just before release, just before the arrow flies off into freedom, that the tension is tightest. This is because you are growing up and becoming more independent and opinionated, while your parents are getting ready to release and are so wanting you to hit the mark. Between these two forces, alot of stress forms, but it is necessary for the arrow to fly true. So, hang in there, be patient, be strong, endure a little longer, and soon enough you'll be free. That doesn't mean you can leave your parents behind and disregard them, only that you are free to make your own decisions - and free to factor the wisdom of your parents into those decisions if you so desire."
From what you've said before, I know your parents are very difficult. But they want you to fly true, and even though their methods may be painful (and may not be what I would personally choose), at least they care. I admire that you've made the effort to work with them. Yes, you've had your fights and difficult moments, but you are still there with them, trying your best to work with them.
I think it's important, if at all possible, to get your parents on board with this guy, and Prot has some good ideas on how to approach that... the thing that could make it difficult is waiting until you are independent to introduce your b/f. Your parents might not let you wait - they might force the issue... and if that is the case, it may be a better approach to just sit down with them and be open and honest, but in as loving and respectful a way as you can muster. Something like, "look, I want to honor you, but you have to understand that I'm getting older and will soon be on my own, making my own decisions. I want to make this decision, but it would be nice if you could be a part of it. A compromise might be this: if you let me make this choice, then I will include you in on this part of my life... let you meet him, let you know what's going on with us, etc." I don't know... I mean, it's going to be very different for different parents, and I have no idea what your parents are like. You do know what they are like, though, and I would recommend you take some time and brainstorm for some creative approaches on how you could turn your moms heart and maybe get her on your side. And let me share something with you about your parents... now that I'm a parent myself I understand something I never understood before. As a child, then teenager, then young adult, you get this mental image of your parents - and it can become very inhuman, actually, for some people. You might thing of your mom as always negative, or tough as nails, or unemotional, or only angry, or whatever it is she is like. But, no matter what your mental image may be, the reality is, she is still human. She does have a heart, she does have a soul! She has her own insecurities, just like the rest of us, and all these outward things are most likely defenses she has erected around those insecurities. But I can almost guarantee you that deep inside she feels things that might surprise you - she can get jealous of your affection, she can miss you terribly, she can feel incredible love and fondness for you. She might not ever let you know - you might believe she is only motivated out of a desire to make herself, or the family, look good. But, my point is this: be willing to think of her in a different light - be willing to consider that it might just be possible to break through the defenses and reach her heart and actually connect with her and win her over. The question is, how? And that is going to be quite an exciting adventure for you to embark on. Just don't lose hope - don't give up.
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:32 PM

So it turns out that we are no longer going to see Obama. How sad. TT_TT. And I am no longer talking to him. Oh well. I am more sad that I can't Obama!!!!!!
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:51 PM

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So it turns out that we are no longer going to see Obama. How sad. TT_TT. And I am no longer talking to him. Oh well. I am more sad that I can't Obama!!!!!!


Girl, sorry to hear about you not being able to go and see Obama. As for the boy, there's plenty more out there esp with the new avatar. Dang! Love the bra girl. I so want it. I'll have to go and check VS out. smile.gif
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 06:59 AM

There's a new girl that really likes me, and she's cool, but I just don't see a future between us. I have a feeling judging by how "girlfriendy" she's acting that she feels otherwise. Even if feelings did eventually grow for her, she's the ex of a friend of mine, and they had a vicious break up. I wouldn't let that stop me if I had feelings for her, but... I don't. It's nice to feel wanted for a change, so I almost want to go with it, but I'd just be messing with her heart and that's not cool.

Hey, tell me if you think this is weird. I don't like to reveal too much of my "flashy side" to girls because I like them to be able to appreciate me for my humble quiet self. This may not seem to work, because of the whole "You catch them with your flash / nice appearance and keep them with the personality" view on things, but I think quite the opposite. I'd rather catch someone with my personality and the flash / appearance is a bonus.

When I say flash I mean things like doing film work, sense of humor and stuff. Girls love that, but I wouldn't ever want to be with a girl just because I do a certain thing or have certain hook ups... or hang out with a certain crowd, you know? I'd rather that stuff was "cool extras" but she liked me for me as a person. So do you find it bizarre that I'd rather meet a girl when I'm "not at my best" to see if she can appreciate me?

Even in public, I'm became sick of being the center of attention. I had a little show in my town and became a "local celebrity", and I had people calling my name that I didn't know and stuff. I had to leave my last job because I was "on stage" too much. I appreciate a lot of the love people give, but I much prefer quiet cause I just can't handle it. Everywhere I went I had expectations, and no one would just let me relax and be quiet. And it's not like I can just sit back, cause I want to be myself too. And myself is silly and stuff... I dunno. It's hard to balance I guess, and I don't want a girl I lump in with the "people with expectations", but rather someone real that will keep me grounded.

This is the reason I spend lots of time online. People all think the worst of you online haha! Then you make friends with your personality. Sometimes I almost feel like a spiritual retreat would be amazing...
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 09:06 AM

^^^ I think thats the best way to meet someone, if you can meet them when you're not at your best - then you know they'll love you even more when you are at your best. I always say that if a guy can take the way I look and act when I'm sick (like right now) then he can take me when I'm happy and healthy.

It's a crappy way to meet someone, super hard to meet people. I can honestly say - i don't get many people intrested in me because I never do my makeup, hair is always in a ponytail, and I don't dress up - EVER. But if the guy can honestly take me like that, when I do decide to glam up - it's a bonus and he knows he's not dating a total scrub.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 09:11 AM

Exactly. I'm glad someone agrees with me!
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 09:26 AM

I have to say, I always felt the same way, Derrek. It seems more conducive to finding someone for the long haul. They are going to see you at your best and your worst. Might as well set the base expectations up front. wink.gif
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 09:49 AM

I agree with you Derrek, but people in society are dumb. They expect to always meet someone at their best, and judge a person on their looks in most cases.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 10:50 AM

^^ Oh go back to your lucky wife. I'm sure your base is at everyone's high coreancc.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (derrek @ Dec 10 2008, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, tell me if you think this is weird. I don't like to reveal too much of my "flashy side" to girls because I like them to be able to appreciate me for my humble quiet self. This may not seem to work, because of the whole "You catch them with your flash / nice appearance and keep them with the personality" view on things, but I think quite the opposite. I'd rather catch someone with my personality and the flash / appearance is a bonus.


I don't think that's weird, I actually like the logic behind it. Too bad I can't utilize this method in meeting people seeing as I have little flash and average personality in real life. That's why I resort to 'shock and awe' as well as the surreal so as to hopefully make some kind of memorable impact. Sadly, my tactics work more online than it does in person.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 01:56 PM

^^^thats why we're all in love with you Hermit.


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Posted 10 December 2008 - 05:39 PM

OH MY john teshING G!!! This one guy just offered me a round trip to Las Vegas!!! AHHH!!!! I'm very tempted to say yes. But...I know he wants something in return...
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