[Tuffcore]

Women want sex and love.

Now give me $1 million.

wait... what is... love?

[PaNgIeE]

I can't speak for all men. However, I can speak for myself. What I want is to meet the right girl. The type of girl/woman who loves me for who I am, and vice-versa. Where we click, have good communication, etc. We're both ok with looks, etc. Not expecting perfection, but looking average and up is a plus. There's more, but that pretty much sums it up for me.

I totally agree. Its all about the connection I believe. However, I think when you get older you have certain things you are just looking for in a person - goals, aspirations, dreams, etc. I think finding that certain someone isn't easy, but it doesn't mean that it should be hard too. Just depends if you want a lot or a little out from someone. As for me, I just wanna be love, but at the same time I'm looking for someone who's gonna be able to respect me, my culture, my family, and my life and how they matter to me. So, yea..in some perspective I am picky, but who isn't?!

[WalkingShade]

It's true that men want sex as much as possible but once they satisfy their urges, they pretty much want the exact same things as women want in men.

[watcher]

wait... what is... love?

love is like buying yourself some ice cream, and having her take the first bite.

*hoards the million monopoly dollars*

[Tuffcore]

love is like buying yourself some ice cream, and having her take the first bite.

speaking English to me!

[k1D3Ck]

^^^I always thought you were a male

Anyway, I think he is meaning that ice cream represents something 'prized' which you don't share with anyone, yet the person you love can take it all away, and you don't care how much she takes.

Unless he really meant buying some ice cream, and her taking the first bite...I guess that can hold some meaning....no clue

[Tuffcore]

^^^I always thought you were a male

Women want sex and love.

I just want to make sure... is it in the order of sex AND THEN love?

[donporkuloin]

I totally agree. Its all about the connection I believe. However, I think when you get older you have certain things you are just looking for in a person - goals, aspirations, dreams, etc. I think finding that certain someone isn't easy, but it doesn't mean that it should be hard too. Just depends if you want a lot or a little out from someone. As for me, I just wanna be love, but at the same time I'm looking for someone who's gonna be able to respect me, my culture, my family, and my life and how they matter to me. So, yea..in some perspective I am picky, but who isn't?!

I agree with those things, but I didn't mention them, because I thought some of them should've been unsaid, etc.

Translation: men want sex.

And now, the million dollar question, What do women want?

That's not what I meant!




I have an on going problem. I have a friend. We ended up helping each other with our dating woes. Over the summer I ended up asking her for her number. She gave it to me, but I didn't call her for like 2 months. We still talked on msn, but I just never called her. I just never gave it much of a thought. When I did call her I was nervous, and she knew it. I tried calling her every now and then. I started to get over some of my nervousness as well. We didn't talk for a few months. Due to us both being busy. I talked to her a few days ago. As I was talking to her I agreed to call her this weekend. Then when I got done chatting with her. I realized I like her, and I realize I'm supremely nervous about calling her. So, I've been wondering what can I talk to her about on the phone. I'm getting nervous again as well. So I've been trying pre-plan my phone conversartion with her, but I stopped, because I dunno what to say? Any suggestions?

[Aziraphale]

love is like buying yourself some ice cream, and having her take the first bite.

*hoards the million monopoly dollars*

You know, that's a really sweet and romantic image.

Now, did you buy Mayfair or Regent Street?

I just want to make sure... is it in the order of sex AND THEN love?

Hmm... that's a difficult question, sir. Must there be an order???

[k1D3Ck]

No I think it's love then you woo her into sex??
So I guess for most males, it's not true love.....it's a lie

[Ar0x]

hi 'PaNgIeE'...
``Just writing to let you know how much I like your simple phrase: "Beautiful words are not always truthful. Truthful words are not always beautiful ."

If you 'authored' those words--it is brilliant. If not--great find! /:-)

thx.

[Ar0x]

It's true that men want sex as much as possible but once they satisfy their urges, they pretty much want the exact same things as women want in men.

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so, you believe the [ole Wives' tale] that women do not want intercourse as much as men. what crowd have you been running with: the Conservative Right Wing Extremists--bible thumpers?!
--like a lot of other PopularMyths: Women are not good in Business, Women cannot fight in Wars; Women are not Equal ...This is the year of your lHord gHod, 2006! why are people pushing the same ole "1913" simple 'rot'?
--i have yet to meet (one of those 'so-called unfortunate' women) you speak of--every women i have been fortunate to know--Loves Sex, as much or more than i do; and i'm an addict! Ha! why are people still prosletyzing(sp) such old fashioned anti-female sexual theory as Truth? i know that girlfriends and wives pester their mates, to pay more 'sexual' attention to them! it is not just males who pester females for sexual attention.
~~show me the Facts/show me the poll/show me the actual Women who were questioned...maybe then i will believe this kind'a INFOrmation, otherwise it goes into the trash bin with all the other conspiracy theories i have succeeded in -- ignoring. no offense intended.

a Poster states:
" "..Anyway, I think he is meaning that ice cream represents something 'prized' which you don't share with anyone, yet the person you love can TAKE It ALL AWAY, and you don't care how much SHE TAKES... ." "

--Isn't this a rather OldFashioned statement. Why should 'she TAKE' what she wants from a male? I'm sure you don't want a male to TAKE anything from her!
--Modern lovers should 'share'; not TAKE one from the other. I will not spend one more day, nor date with a person who TAKEs and does not GIVE!
--Where did all the so called 'Advanced "X" Generation' students and young adults go? wow \;-(

ps: a Poster states:
" "..No I think it's love then you woo her into sex??
So I guess for most males, it's not true love.....it's a lie... ." "

--then guys can argue with loads of past history: 'for most females, it's all about the (Wallet and Not Love), and the Meals, and Club & his paying for EVERYTHING Else over all the weekends ALL year, year after year... .' --so there's HER Big Lie; he never meant anything to her--except for his wallet; and when he can no longer afford to OverSpend--he's just another broken dog to kick to the curb!!!! Truth Be Told. Of course no one cares to hear it... .

[k1D3Ck]

^^ I have not idea what you are saying
I meant the guy shares his ice cream...O_o
I personally don't like sweets so I wouldn't buy ice cream in the first place

And what I say 'woo', I meant by words....like a guy usually says things girls wants to hear.

[Tuffcore]

^^ I have not idea what you are saying

beautiful words are not always truthful. Truthful words are not always beautiful.

Ar0x has just said a lot of ugly words.

Although he/she is from New York, arguably the most unconservative city in America, he's quite accurately described women as they are.

[B0hemian_Sprite]

Women want a companion. A friend, a lover, a confidante...someone to trust. Someone who'll love her for who she is, not what she is.

At least that's what I want.

[mickey012]

Hi, I'm a 21 year old male. I'm not a bad looking guy, but I have this dilemma where it seems like no matter what, females are not attracted or interested in me. Girls just don't seem to "like" me. I have been trying to figure out what the reason is for all this time but I am still befuddled. I know I do not carry any signs of desperation and not understanding why girls aren't interested in me has been driving me mad and depressed. Don't tell me it's confidence, because I know and have heard all of it. I think I "carry myself" pretty well. Some potential reasons that I derived are: I have been consistantly mistakened that I appear significantly younger than my age (around 16 to at most 18), if that matters. Perhaps lack of opportunities? Perhaps I don't meet enough girls? (But the girls that I do meet aren't interested in me at all.) Maybe lack of social skills? (Could it be? But I'm not shy, I do talk to them.) I've tried everything. Looking for your expert analysis.

i think looking younger may actually be an advantage sometimes if you meet girls that like "young" faces. lack of social skills? elaborate? you said you carry yourself pretty well and don't appear to be desperate, so i assume you have no trouble communicating with females...on top of that, you claim to be "not bad looking"...so that's even better for boosting your confidence.

it's possible that you're just not looking in the right crowd? i'm sure you haven't met every single possible girl there is out there, so i suggest you go out there and start looking for more. i'm sure when you meet the right one who also likes you back, you won't be complaining about being single.

Someone told me the only way to forget someone you loved is to fall in love again with someone else
I wouldn't know if this holds any truth since I never fell in love before

i think finding a new person can help you stop being "trapped" in the state of remembering someone that you don't want to remember. but i don't think it necessarily help you forget someone completely.

if you can't forget someone, then it means this person has had some deep connection with you in the past. i feel that it doesn't do you good to forget about those good memories, nor do i feel that it's healthy to dwell on the past...but if you really do need to take your mind off of someone because it's driving you insane, then yes, i think finding someone else to occupy your mind is helpful.

What do women want?

What do men want?

i think everyone just wants to find someone that can understand them so they will never be alone in the world...?

I have an on going problem. I have a friend. We ended up helping each other with our dating woes. Over the summer I ended up asking her for her number. She gave it to me, but I didn't call her for like 2 months. We still talked on msn, but I just never called her. I just never gave it much of a thought. When I did call her I was nervous, and she knew it. I tried calling her every now and then. I started to get over some of my nervousness as well. We didn't talk for a few months. Due to us both being busy. I talked to her a few days ago. As I was talking to her I agreed to call her this weekend. Then when I got done chatting with her. I realized I like her, and I realize I'm supremely nervous about calling her. So, I've been wondering what can I talk to her about on the phone. I'm getting nervous again as well. So I've been trying pre-plan my phone conversartion with her, but I stopped, because I dunno what to say? Any suggestions?

i think you should stop pre-planning and just go with the flow. if you can't learn to relax, then this is never going to work.

[Shinobu]

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so, you believe the [ole Wives' tale] that women do not want intercourse as much as men. what crowd have you been running with: the Conservative Right Wing Extremists--bible thumpers?!
--like a lot of other PopularMyths: Women are not good in Business, Women cannot fight in Wars; Women are not Equal ...This is the year of your lHord gHod, 2006! why are people pushing the same ole "1913" simple 'rot'?
--i have yet to meet (one of those 'so-called unfortunate' women) you speak of--every women i have been fortunate to know--Loves Sex, as much or more than i do; and i'm an addict! Ha! why are people still prosletyzing(sp) such old fashioned anti-female sexual theory as Truth? i know that girlfriends and wives pester their mates, to pay more 'sexual' attention to them! it is not just males who pester females for sexual attention.
~~show me the Facts/show me the poll/show me the actual Women who were questioned...maybe then i will believe this kind'a INFOrmation, otherwise it goes into the trash bin with all the other conspiracy theories i have succeeded in -- ignoring. no offense intended.

I surmise that maybe it is the remnant of the brainwashing based on the male/female differences in privileges from a long time ago. The physical differences may also dictate women's mentality (something like who is at a loss as a result.)

a Poster states:
" "..Anyway, I think he is meaning that ice cream represents something 'prized' which you don't share with anyone, yet the person you love can TAKE It ALL AWAY, and you don't care how much SHE TAKES... ." "

--Isn't this a rather OldFashioned statement. Why should 'she TAKE' what she wants from a male? I'm sure you don't want a male to TAKE anything from her!
--Modern lovers should 'share'; not TAKE one from the other. I will not spend one more day, nor date with a person who TAKEs and does not GIVE!
--Where did all the so called 'Advanced "X" Generation' students and young adults go? wow \;-(

Yeah people use the word share a lot nowadays because it is all about sharing but sharing is also an ideal word. In the end, some will give more while others will take more.

[SpikeyHairKid]

i have one 29-year-old friend who's never had a girlfriend, and it's not for want of trying. he wasn't bad-looking, he's smart and funny, he's a doctor... but something about him just set me on edge to the point that i never would have dated him. it's just certain things -- he was always so full of hate for korean americans when he was one himself, was always kind of... emo, even though i guess he's too old for that, and i felt like... he looks at people like they're all really stupid. it was like twisting his arm to get him to agree to go out for a drink, and he never would have asked himself. so i was completely surprised when he admitted that he used to have a big crush on me, because i swear he always acted like i was this annoying pest that he was only giving the time of day to because he was bored. i'm not saying any of this is what you're dealing with, but if it sounds at all familiar, i guess it's something to consider. it's not enough to just talk to a girl or try to appear confident. but anyway, i don't think you have much to worry about yet... 21 doesn't sound old enough to me to be complaining about always having been single.
worst case scenario... it doesn't work and maybe makes your life temporarily confusing. i especially wouldn't think twice if the other party has moved on.

*Questions:

What else do you perceive as necessary besides talking and appearing confident? Also do girls develop interest over time or is it physical interest first like guys? And if it is developed how can I build it? What draws a girl's interest? Have you ever heard of people liking people that didn't like them first? - In relation to this theory of: "People always want things they can't have." Are guys suppose to appear nonchalant, indifferent, and aloof? If not, how are we suppose to show interest in the girl without being 'too interested'? How can we draw a girl's attention (both initial stranger-wise and afterwards)? How can you make a girl "like you"? What is the best way to put yourself out into the crowd to meet more girls?

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QUOTE(SpikeyHairKid @ Nov 22 2006, 11:59 PM)

Hi, I'm a 21 year old male. I'm not a bad looking guy, but I have this dilemma where it seems like no matter what, females are not attracted or interested in me. Girls just don't seem to "like" me. I have been trying to figure out what the reason is for all this time but I am still befuddled. I know I do not carry any signs of desperation and not understanding why girls aren't interested in me has been driving me mad and depressed. Don't tell me it's confidence, because I know and have heard all of it. I think I "carry myself" pretty well. Some potential reasons that I derived are: I have been consistantly mistakened that I appear significantly younger than my age (around 16 to at most 18), if that matters. Perhaps lack of opportunities? Perhaps I don't meet enough girls? (But the girls that I do meet aren't interested in me at all.) Maybe lack of social skills? (Could it be? But I'm not shy, I do talk to them.) I've tried everything. Looking for your expert analysis.

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i think looking younger may actually be an advantage sometimes if you meet girls that like "young" faces. lack of social skills? elaborate? you said you carry yourself pretty well and don't appear to be desperate, so i assume you have no trouble communicating with females...on top of that, you claim to be "not bad looking"...so that's even better for boosting your confidence.

it's possible that you're just not looking in the right crowd? i'm sure you haven't met every single possible girl there is out there, so i suggest you go out there and start looking for more. i'm sure when you meet the right one who also likes you back, you won't be complaining about being single.
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*Questions:

Well have you heard of being in someone's shoes to experience the true pov? If you looked young, the problem is girls around your age don't even think that you are their age before you even meet them, which eliminates before meeting a girl who likes young faces and a lot of other opportunities. Also I'm using deductive reasoning that I can't be that good looking because if I was I wouldn't be single would I? I'm prob around average to a little above average. About the right crowd, how can I find out where and which crowd is right for me? And how can I put myself "out there" into the specific crowd? How can I know if the girl is interested in me or not? Also, it's not that easy to meet complete strangers especially if you lack networking. What are some ideas did you have in mind about "looking for more"?



Looking for answers or opinions.

[jcraze]

u think too much.

just ride it out ... if you're interested then show interest, but dont come on too strong.

if you're worried about coming on too strong, then try to spread out your interest to more than one girl ... say find a few girls that you're interested in. that way you wont come on too strong to one girl and screwing one up wont be such abig deal.

[edward1849]

*Questions:

What else do you perceive as necessary besides talking and appearing confident? Also do girls develop interest over time or is it physical interest first like guys? And if it is developed how can I build it? What draws a girl's interest? Have you ever heard of people liking people that didn't like them first? - In relation to this theory of: "People always want things they can't have." Are guys suppose to appear nonchalant, indifferent, and aloof? If not, how are we suppose to show interest in the girl without being 'too interested'? How can we draw a girl's attention (both initial stranger-wise and afterwards)? How can you make a girl "like you"? What is the best way to put yourself out into the crowd to meet more girls?

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QUOTE(SpikeyHairKid @ Nov 22 2006, 11:59 PM)

Hi, I'm a 21 year old male. I'm not a bad looking guy, but I have this dilemma where it seems like no matter what, females are not attracted or interested in me. Girls just don't seem to "like" me. I have been trying to figure out what the reason is for all this time but I am still befuddled. I know I do not carry any signs of desperation and not understanding why girls aren't interested in me has been driving me mad and depressed. Don't tell me it's confidence, because I know and have heard all of it. I think I "carry myself" pretty well. Some potential reasons that I derived are: I have been consistantly mistakened that I appear significantly younger than my age (around 16 to at most 18), if that matters. Perhaps lack of opportunities? Perhaps I don't meet enough girls? (But the girls that I do meet aren't interested in me at all.) Maybe lack of social skills? (Could it be? But I'm not shy, I do talk to them.) I've tried everything. Looking for your expert analysis.

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i think looking younger may actually be an advantage sometimes if you meet girls that like "young" faces. lack of social skills? elaborate? you said you carry yourself pretty well and don't appear to be desperate, so i assume you have no trouble communicating with females...on top of that, you claim to be "not bad looking"...so that's even better for boosting your confidence.

it's possible that you're just not looking in the right crowd? i'm sure you haven't met every single possible girl there is out there, so i suggest you go out there and start looking for more. i'm sure when you meet the right one who also likes you back, you won't be complaining about being single.
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*Questions:

Well have you heard of being in someone's shoes to experience the true pov? If you looked young, the problem is girls around your age don't even think that you are their age before you even meet them, which eliminates before meeting a girl who likes young faces and a lot of other opportunities. Also I'm using deductive reasoning that I can't be that good looking because if I was I wouldn't be single would I? I'm prob around average to a little above average. About the right crowd, how can I find out where and which crowd is right for me? And how can I put myself "out there" into the specific crowd? How can I know if the girl is interested in me or not? Also, it's not that easy to meet complete strangers especially if you lack networking. What are some ideas did you have in mind about "looking for more"?
Looking for answers or opinions.

New user should introduce themselves in the pinned thread.