[Lust]

... how do you brush your teeth then.. you listed a bunch of bad things that we shouldn't use and toothpaste was one. <.<

[flowoftime]

... how do you brush your teeth then.. you listed a bunch of bad things that we shouldn't use and toothpaste was one. <.<

she said like 100 times she uses the soap for her teeth as well.


its anti-bacterial and doesnt decay the teeth.

im going to try this aswell..

[eunbit]

wow. i'm pretty shocked by all of this. i always thought i was being extra clean by showering/washing my hair every single day. but it's because i feel so dirty if i do not shower every day. also i cannot go a day without washing my hair because it gets so oily. it's disgusting. i'm definitely going to try washing my hair/body/face with the olivia care soap.

i have a question though. what brand body lotion do you put on after you shower?

also do you use any scrubs to exfoliate your face? or you only use the korean green thingy to exfoliate? including your face?

I don't use lotion. After a hot bath, I use a body oil (neutrogena - not highly recommended) but after I shower (with soap), I don't apply anything. Why suffocate your skin? If you leave it alone, your skin's natural oils will condition skin perfectly.

I don't like mechanical scrubs, chemical scrubs, enzyme peels and most face masks.
Oh yes I forgot... most Korean women don't dare touch their face with a washcloth (which is silly; facial skin is still skin, and super oily compared to rest of the body)
Yes, I do exfoliate my face Korean washcloth. ONLY after soaking/steaming in hot water for extended period, and SUPER GENTLY.
Have you ever seen candy glass? It's very fragile, imagine having to polish that. You'd have to very very evenly, lightly, delicately rub the surface but many times to 'polish' it w/o breaking it.

[Misao]

wow.. you even use soap for your teeth... do you think if i use a whitening soap to make my teeth whiter?

[eunbit]

wow.. you even use soap for your teeth... do you think if i use a whitening soap to make my teeth whiter?

you guys, what are they teaching you in your biology classes......

I tried Likas and other papaya soaps before, and found that there wasn't much effect. Certainly not more than using other Soaps and exfoliating regularly.

I need to update more thoroughly on why whitening soap is not suitable for all-around use; for now, know that they are NOT interchangeable with the Soaps I recommend.

1) whitening soaps have either enzymes to exfoliate skin, which don't technically whiten but increase skin turnover; or they have melanin-blocking agents like hydroquinone or similar derivatives -- harmful, even if used only externally on the skin surface.
2) logically, there is no reason why a whitening soap (particularly the second one) would whiten your teeth.

If your teeth need to be whitened, eating nutrient-dense foods and brushing once in a while with pure new baking soda is the way to go.

You should NOT be brushing your teeth with any soaps besides Marseille or Castile vegetable soaps.
Definitely do not use commercial cheap bar soaps,
definitely do not use "fruity" soaps (which are synthetically fragranced),
definitely do not use glycerin soaps.

They are not good for you, and I can't imagine using any of those nasty things in my mouth.

Please guys. Just find a pure, simple Marseille or Castile soap. They really are not expensive at all, and will do you a world of good.
*In the end, even crappy commercial soaps are better to brush with than toothpaste. Look for something without fluoride, without glycerin/glycerol/glycerine as added ingredients*

[mrsleepyhead94]

Umm... for some reason i've been using shampoo twice a day a long time ago.... now once a day but my hair isn't oily from homeostacis... and doesn't soap dry out your hair and uhh strip more oil?

Oh yeah and my mom told me that if i use hand soap on my face then it will make me have more pimples cuz of the oils on the soap.

is this true?

[Soapp]

I did some reasearch on the soaps I have at home X)!
I'm using the body shop papaya soap right now and i'm going to start to use Rocky mountain soap company soap (I have a bar I just don't know what type it is anymore XD!)

I searched up all the ingredients on the papaya soap one (low hazard guys no worries lmao)
the rocky mountain one I just kind of picked a soap that looks kind of like it (yeah I know XD)

I'm going to be more economically healthy now!

The only problem right now is I have a dire dandruff problem goin' on here (.__.'') and my scalp is itchy, oily and painful (when I touch it or comb it that is) but the ends of my hair are fine (it's just the freakin' scalp!).
WHAT DO I DO? Will the soap fight the dandruff as well?

[xblueswirlsx]

wow thank you for all this info!
I'm going to try this out!

Oh! My mom bought this box of soap because she said it was very good.
It's called: Cote Mer. (from the Oliva Care Products)
contains:
shea butter, seaweed, olive oil, palm oils, palm kernel oils, water, glycerin, sodium chloride, EDTA.

and i'm pretty sure it's safe..??

[ig0r0ar]

Do you check the ingriedients?
yes - just when i'm bored on the can

LMAO.. sometimes.

[happiness_clover]

Ahhh wow! Thanks for compiling all of the info! I'm proud to say I understood all of the terms without having to look them up. I guess I have been studying enough

Me and my friend have a little obsession with skin care... we used to discuss weird ideas for acne removal devices to market back in grade nine haha.

I found the part about glycerin sucking the moisture OUT from your skin to make it glow-y really interesting for some reason. It sounds so cool (not cool for skin though -__-)... I'm definitely going to look it up to see how that works.

I'm really interested in methods of taking care of my body that allow it to take care of itself more (the way it's intended to) and allow it to be in a natural state of moisture, clarity etc. Honestly, not only do these products probably make our routine take more time because of their adverse affects but also because of the number of them. I used to think I was some sort of master of skin care because I have four different moisturizers and face washes each for variuos 'states' of my skin... but now I realize that it's kind of ridiculous..

I think I will still have an obsession with exfoliating though... (not harshly)

I have two questions...

What is your diet like and how much of an effect do you think that has on your skin? (I don't think I eat enough healthy-oil type foods, so my skin could become dried... my poor cell membranes lacking lipids )

Where have you been studying? This area of study sounds really cool

[anjuu62]

If anyone wants to know, L'occitane en provence sells marseille soaps and Crabtree & Evelyn sells triple milled soaps as well. That might be easier than ordering online for some people ^^''

[inyeon.]

great info.

i was just wondering if this was the kinda of marseille soaps we need to use --> http://usa.loccitane.com/FO/Catalog/Search...x?key=marseille


edit:
oops, on siblings account. XD but I still hope you can answer the question.

[jenn]

thanks for all the info.

is there such thing as a liquid form of marseille soap or castile soap?

Only acids can dissolve teeth.
(Consider the fact that soda is 10,000 more acidic than water. Is it surprising that a tooth submerged in soda will completely disintegrate in one hour?)
Why are we told bacteria help to 'decay' the teeth? They obviously cannot decay a mineral, inorganic structure.
On the other hand, Gingivitis is caused by bacteria.

i dont know if this is true or not but my dentist explained to me that bacteria in the mouth live off of carbohydrates we put into our mouthes.. and "poop" out acidic stuff that demineralize our teeth... but then that's funny if we use toothpaste then if it doesn't kill the bacteria.it's so stupid!! toothpaste doesn't prevent then, it only "treats" the problem that has happened already..but only complicates the problem more. grrr. >:{

2) Dentist tools which pit and rip holes through tooth enamel go down even deeper from these gum pockets; these are true 'cavities', or holes, which catch small particles of food and cause gum infection.

omg this seems to fit into my situation. i changed my dentist 2 years ago b/c my old dentist didn't seem to take time to look and care for my teeth.. and that's really ironic.. b/c my new dentist is pretty meticulous about cleaning my teeth.. and yet i seem to have cavities and "cleaning" problems with the new dentist. He always digs his tools in between my teeth and the holes just seem to get bigger between my teeth. so i've doubled my toothpaste use each brush time and that never seemed to change anything [i'd still get 1-2 cavities each visit] and my eating habits have not changed extremely.

it's so confusing and frustrating when dentists/doctors buy into what companies want to sell and then the doctors/dentists promote the product and habits... w/o ever thinking for themselves and questioning ever. i mean dentists/doctors become so convinced of the product and will be quick to denounce any other ways just because there's "no evidence". we look up to them to follow what we should do, yet they're probably as clueless as we are.. yet they easily recite, what big company advertisements have convinced them, is "true".

[sugarlessgirl]

totally just tried the no 'poo method. went through a "detox" where i only used water to massage my scalp for a week, and just washed my hair with castile soap yesterday night with an apple cider vinegar rinse after. its been a full day and my hair doesnt feel greasy at all, whereas when i used even "organic, natural" shampoo, my hair was greasy enough to warrant a wash everyday. my ends were all dry even though i used conditioner. now my ends are fine

so HA to all the naysayers! if its not working for you, you ain't doin' it right.

[Spiritm]

holy crap this is crazy o__o I hardly brush my teeth heh =__=^ but I've had the least cavities out
of my family. I really hate my dentist too he digs his damn tools into my gums D: and fluoride is bad for your teeth O>O sheeze I get fluoride treatment everytime I go to the dentist well that'll have to stop.
Ok thats it I'm printing this alll of and showing it to the parentals!

[ellenism]

For soap, I highly recommend The Soap Works company. All of their products are made from healthy, natural, and beneficial ingredients. In addition, they have many different types of bar soaps and liquid soaps, though I recommend the bar soaps more because from my own experience, the bars have better results.

They've got bars for people with dry skin, fragrance allergies, sensitive skin, oily skin, and more. They also have a laundry/detergent product, which I haven't tried, but according to a friend of mine, it does a great job of removing stains on your clothing.

As for me, I use their Shampoo and Conditioner soap bar and their Olive Oil soap bar. I also used to use their Aloe Vera soap bar back when my skin was suuper dry; flaky almost but thanks to the Aloe Vera soap, my skin is fine now. 8DD Their Shampoo and Conditioner bar is made purely of vegetable oils, and contains Aloe Vera as a conditioner for your hair. It's awesome. The Olive Oil bar is also made purely of natural products (including olive oil) and it's really moisturizing. You can also use it as a shaving bar.

For more info, check out their website!

P.S. For people in Toronto, these bars are not difficult to find. Surely, you will not be able to find these bars in big malls or drug stores. However, ask at any natural health product store and they should have it. Or, do a store lookup at their website. Also, for those who cannot access a retailer or do not want to order online, you may PM me if you like. I live super close to a retailer (one block away ish) and I can send you a bar or two.

[shukketsu]

I wanted to ask if you think rose oil would be an adequate substitute for the camellia oil?

[j1youngxj3]

so i went to TJ MAXX with my mom today and i found olivia care mandarin soap..and i bought it..just took a shower and i can say that my hair feels so clean and nice...it's really soft on the skin..<3
i'm gonna try brushing my teeth with it later after dinner =]

--edit--
is it ok to use bio oil afterwards? my skin gets dried out easily..i'll post up the ingredients..could you take a look?

Paraffinum Liquidum, Triisononanoin, Cetearyl Ethylhexanoate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Anthemis Nobilis Flower Oil, Lavendula Angustifolia (Lavender) Oil, Rosemarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Oil, Calendula Officinalis Flower Extract, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Bht, Bisabolol, Parfum, Amyl Cinnamal, Benzyl Salicylate, Citronellol, Coumarin, Eugenol, Geraniol, Hydroxycitronellal, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexane Carboxaldehyde, Limonene, Linalool, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Ci 26100

[eunbit]

so i did read edward's posts and yours.. and if products have PH diff than skin PH .. this disrupts skin. then why switch to soap?
although high quality soap has fewer ingredients.. wouldn't the high PH of the soap disrupt our skin?
wouldn't finding a high quality [few ingredients] shampoo/conditioner/toothpaste/etc with same PH be better for the skin so it doesnt disrupt? ...or is our body PH significantly diff than our face PH that it can tolerate soap??

also, just wanted to get more info on using soap to brush teeth. so soap kills the bacterias in mouth.. but what about mouthwash... why not just use mouthwash to kill bacteria??
also wouldn't the soap affect the way our mouth digests food? soap would change PH of mouth...wouldn't the salivary amylase in saliva be useless to break down food??

These are really great questions, thank you for asking them.

Soap and pH
As was mentioned in EdwardCTV's post on using water (and not products) to wash, the pH of skin is acidic, not neutral. This is the reason why use of most commercial acne products and face washes ENCOURAGE bacterial growth; the use of these basic products helps increase the pH of skin, to range of 8-11.

The confusion with soap is this: it is difficult to accurately measure the pH of soap b/c .... well, simply put, the basic ends of soap screw with litmus paper readings. But high-quality soap generally has a neutral pH, around 7-7.7. This is far better than using commercial detergents, but since it lowers skin's natural acidity, over-use can encourage bacterial growth on skin and pimples. Once you get to know your skin intimately, you can choose to use soap on your face every other day, twice a week, etc, as needed. I recommend that you spend two or three days washing face with only water after washing it once with soap. Below: explanation of why.

I recommend soap because for many, many reasons, it is superior to using commercial synthetic products. In the end, each person should spend some time using soap and using water to wash and learn how their bodies adjust to them. Paradoxically, (or not)

Soap use: (hair and skin) removes most oil (therefore) makes skin oilier a bit quicker
Water use: (hair and skin) removes minimal oil and lets skin slowly produce oils to lubricate naturally.

What is Skin?

What we call "skin" is not a meaningless top layer but the second-largest organ of the body; it has specific functions, with specific defensive and healing mechanisms. Skin should never be 'squeaky clean'; doing so activates the healing and repair mechanisms to prevent drying out of the skin. Those mechanisms are an evolutionary development.

Why skin should never be dry:

Dry skin does not shed properly, leading to a building up of layers of dead, dry skin cells glued together. When these layers accumulate, skin hardens; then the skin can easily break and crack, exposing the entire body to foreign bacteria and viruses (which was deadly then and can be deadly now). To keep the body alive, the skin needs to be flexible, which requires lubrication (to prevent dead skin buildup). This is why skin has oil glands producing sebum (skin's natural conditioner).

Why lotions/creams interfere with this process: I avoid using lotions and creams on my face and body. Some of your guy friends can tell you how they never used to use lotion, then when they started to (probably encouraged by an over-zealous girlfriend) they became... dependent on them. Why?

Lotions and creams:

are fatty emulsions that use chemicals such as stearic acid to prevent the components from separating. They are often given pleasing scents from synthetic fragrances. They are full of preservatives to prevent breakdown. (They are nasty things.)

Applying lotions and creams to the skin retards healthy skin growth and maintenance. The use of "humectants" such as glycerol can keep the surface layer of skin "feel moist" largely because they draw this moisture from the skin itself: contrast the healthy layers of skin with suffocated, parched skin that has a greasy layer on top. Which would you choose? The use of mineral oil (in many store-bought facial cleansers, foundation, etc) can also give a "glow" to the face because the large molecules of mineral oil sitting on the skin's surface are.... oily (No brainer) and suffocate the skin.

Dependency on lotions is just what these products are designed to do, by companies interested in a loyal repeat-buyer customer base. Using these products, even once, immediately begins to weaken skin. Continued use (several days, months, years) results in immature skin that is easily dried out (which is why most ppl immediately go back to using lotions again after a day or so of disuse). This should be of concern to you.

The good news:

Skin is amazingly adaptable (necessary for survival as a species). The nature of skin is that dead skin cells continually rise up and are shed on the surface. Even after years and years of product abuse, discontinuing these products and switching to washing with soap and water (or just water) will quickly result in adaption of your skin and return to healthy skin.

These are the reasons why there a transition period is NECESSARY to reclaim healthy skin.

Mouthwash, Soap, Bacteria and PH

Mouthwash is used mainly because toothpaste does not do enough to kill the bacteria in the mouth. Bacteria is responsible for gum infections but most people use mouthwashes to kill bad-breath bacteria. Most mouthwashes contain a LOT of very drying alcohol to do this.

The proper question here is, why is soap better than fluoride/SLS/SLES/glycerin to brush the teeth?
1) It's less basic than SLS/SLES
2) It does a better job killing bacteria
3) It easily breaks down existing plaque/tartar, obliviating the need to get dental cleanings
4) the absence of fluoride prevents/heals gum pockets, tooth loss, gum tearing, barbaric gum surgery.
5) the absence of fluoride prevents accidental toxic death (fluoride is more deadly than arsenic)
5) It rinses off easily (2 rinses) compared to the the 27+ rinses needed to get rid of glycerin coating of the mouth.
6) the absence of a glycerin coating allows teeth to rebuild and remineralize
7) the absence of a glycerin coating means that cavities are given less chance to form

Why does toothpaste give a funny aftertaste/feeling? (Why does OJ taste terrible after brushing teeth?)
Why is glycerin in toothpaste?
1) SLS/SLES's are extremely cheap, extremely harsh detergents used in commercial toothpaste
2) SLS/SLES's strip the mouth/teeth of moisture (this is BAD guys; you want a moist mouth!)
3) Glycerin is a "humectant" which hides the damage of using SLS/SLES's
4) Glycerin achieves this by coating the mouth/teeth (very sticky) and sucking the moisture out of body tissues
5) This coating prevents proper remineralization of the teeth, encourages cavities from acid wear
6) This coating ENCOURAGES plaque formation: tartar can be seen as the teeth's deformed attempts to remineralize surface enamel. It is NOT caused by bacteria.

And, I explained up above, but soap is okay to use, though it is more basic than saliva, because it is still less basic than the SLS/SLES found in toothpaste AND is easily rinsed away.

Umm... for some reason i've been using shampoo twice a day a long time ago.... now once a day but my hair isn't oily from homeostacis... and doesn't soap dry out your hair and uhh strip more oil?

Oh yeah and my mom told me that if i use hand soap on my face then it will make me have more pimples cuz of the oils on the soap.

is this true?

Please take the time to read the other posts; links are on the first page and in my sig.

I mentioned before that washing hair more than twice a week is a sign that your scalp is being negatively impacted by the harsh detergents in shampoo. Quality soap (Marseille, Castile) is far gentler on the skin/scalp.

Hand soap, if it is not Marseille/Castile soap and commercial soap, will likely give you pimples.
It's not b/c oils in soap. It's b/c cheap soaps use sodium tallowate (beef/animal fat) and other harsh ingredients.

I did some reasearch on the soaps I have at home X)!
I'm using the body shop papaya soap right now and i'm going to start to use Rocky mountain soap company soap (I have a bar I just don't know what type it is anymore XD!)

I searched up all the ingredients on the papaya soap one (low hazard guys no worries lmao)
the rocky mountain one I just kind of picked a soap that looks kind of like it (yeah I know XD)

I'm going to be more economically healthy now!

The only problem right now is I have a dire dandruff problem goin' on here (.__.'') and my scalp is itchy, oily and painful (when I touch it or comb it that is) but the ends of my hair are fine (it's just the freakin' scalp!).
WHAT DO I DO? Will the soap fight the dandruff as well?

Most people do not have real dandruff; they have "scruff" which is caused by harsh chemicals. If your skin is itchy and painful, it could either be that your scalp has an inflammatory response to product use or, it could be a more serious problem.

Try using washng hair alternatively with soap, then water, to see if it helps.
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wow thank you for all this info!
I'm going to try this out!

Oh! My mom bought this box of soap because she said it was very good.
It's called: Cote Mer. (from the Oliva Care Products)
contains:
shea butter, seaweed, olive oil, palm oils, palm kernel oils, water, glycerin, sodium chloride, EDTA.

and i'm pretty sure it's safe..??

You guys, I'm fine with telling you which soaps/routines I use, but I cannot check each one that you do use for safety. These posts take a lot of time. In answer to your question,

Natural soaps have vegetable oils, sodium hydroxide/lye/potash, water, sometimes salt, sometimes essential oils for fragrances. I avoid anything that has added chemicals, including glycerin and EDTA, it's been explained why. If there's a chemical in the soap I did not cover, you should know that anything beyond basic soap ingredients are not ideal.

Do you check the ingriedients?
yes - just when i'm bored on the can

LMAO.. sometimes.

Ahhh wow! Thanks for compiling all of the info! I'm proud to say I understood all of the terms without having to look them up. I guess I have been studying enough

Me and my friend have a little obsession with skin care... we used to discuss weird ideas for acne removal devices to market back in grade nine haha.

I found the part about glycerin sucking the moisture OUT from your skin to make it glow-y really interesting for some reason. It sounds so cool (not cool for skin though -__-)... I'm definitely going to look it up to see how that works.

I'm really interested in methods of taking care of my body that allow it to take care of itself more (the way it's intended to) and allow it to be in a natural state of moisture, clarity etc. Honestly, not only do these products probably make our routine take more time because of their adverse affects but also because of the number of them. I used to think I was some sort of master of skin care because I have four different moisturizers and face washes each for variuos 'states' of my skin... but now I realize that it's kind of ridiculous..

I think I will still have an obsession with exfoliating though... (not harshly)

I have two questions...

What is your diet like and how much of an effect do you think that has on your skin? (I don't think I eat enough healthy-oil type foods, so my skin could become dried... my poor cell membranes lacking lipids )

Where have you been studying? This area of study sounds really cool

My diet: I stay away from processed/oily foods. I eat a lot of Korean and Japanese foods, though my vegetable consumption has been pretty poor this winter; lack of choice.
Your body doesn't really need much oil at all (think less than a tablespoon's worth a day from EVERYTHING you eat); it's able to make adequate oils on its own even on a vegan diet. Your cell membranes ARE being dried out (from using detergents on your skin); if you use lotion (scroll up this post) then you're preventing your skin from conditioning itself.

My areas of study: biochemistry, molecular cell biology, East Asian Studies (languages, history, sociology, etc).
Plus I worked a lot in retail, which gave me a lot of time to test out beauty products/fragrances, etc. ^^;

If anyone wants to know, L'occitane en provence sells marseille soaps and Crabtree & Evelyn sells triple milled soaps as well. That might be easier than ordering online for some people ^^''

Thank you! For those of you who didn't know, though, any soap can be triple-milled (even commercial) so you still need to check the ingredients.

great info.

i was just wondering if this was the kinda of marseille soaps we need to use --> http://usa.loccitane.com/FO/Catalog/Search...x?key=marseille

edit:
oops, on siblings account. XD but I still hope you can answer the question.

If it's a Marseille soap, it should be fine. Check the ingredients.

thanks for all the info.

is there such thing as a liquid form of marseille soap or castile soap?

i dont know if this is true or not but my dentist explained to me that bacteria in the mouth live off of carbohydrates we put into our mouthes.. and "poop" out acidic stuff that demineralize our teeth... but then that's funny if we use toothpaste then if it doesn't kill the bacteria.it's so stupid!! toothpaste doesn't prevent then, it only "treats" the problem that has happened already..but only complicates the problem more. grrr. >:{

omg this seems to fit into my situation. i changed my dentist 2 years ago b/c my old dentist didn't seem to take time to look and care for my teeth.. and that's really ironic.. b/c my new dentist is pretty meticulous about cleaning my teeth.. and yet i seem to have cavities and "cleaning" problems with the new dentist. He always digs his tools in between my teeth and the holes just seem to get bigger between my teeth. so i've doubled my toothpaste use each brush time and that never seemed to change anything [i'd still get 1-2 cavities each visit] and my eating habits have not changed extremely.

it's so confusing and frustrating when dentists/doctors buy into what companies want to sell and then the doctors/dentists promote the product and habits... w/o ever thinking for themselves and questioning ever. i mean dentists/doctors become so convinced of the product and will be quick to denounce any other ways just because there's "no evidence". we look up to them to follow what we should do, yet they're probably as clueless as we are.. yet they easily recite, what big company advertisements have convinced them, is "true".

There are liquid forms available online, but these usually have a lot more ingredients in them. I have a link in my sig explaining why I prefer bar soaps over liquid.

I think that a lot of Soompiers will have a similar reaction as you did about, about the truth behind commercial toothpaste. It's a hidden disgrace. Much like how medical schools don't bother teaching doctors even the basics of nutrition and why the American-style processing/preparation/packaging of non-organic foods are so bad for humans, most dentists have no idea on why fluoride is bad for teeth and toxic to humans.

There are some dentists out there who know about these findings and truths, but they have been intentionally ignored by the ADA, BDA and dental schools. Honestly, if the facts on fluoride/glycerin and useless of commercial toothpaste and fluoridation was well understood by even half the population, it would mean a huge loss of revenues and income for people who deal with our teeth. And sadly, a lot of dentists are completely fooled by what is taught to them in dental schools, despite its scientific unsoundness, despite the RISE in cavities in people who drink fluoridated water, brush often, and go in often for dental cleanings. Talk about being a sheep.

totally just tried the no 'poo method. went through a "detox" where i only used water to massage my scalp for a week, and just washed my hair with castile soap yesterday night with an apple cider vinegar rinse after. its been a full day and my hair doesnt feel greasy at all, whereas when i used even "organic, natural" shampoo, my hair was greasy enough to warrant a wash everyday. my ends were all dry even though i used conditioner. now my ends are fine

so HA to all the naysayers! if its not working for you, you ain't doin' it right.

Wow, that's really great! Glad to hear of your experiences and congratulations on switching! ^-^

[eunbit]

holy crap this is crazy o__o I hardly brush my teeth heh =__=^ but I've had the least cavities out
of my family. I really hate my dentist too he digs his damn tools into my gums D: and fluoride is bad for your teeth O>O sheeze I get fluoride treatment everytime I go to the dentist well that'll have to stop.
Ok thats it I'm printing this alll of and showing it to the parentals!

I know, right? I made a clearer explanation of why soap is superior to toothpaste (above); this might be good to show them too!

For soap, I highly recommend The Soap Works company. All of their products are made from healthy, natural, and beneficial ingredients. In addition, they have many different types of bar soaps and liquid soaps, though I recommend the bar soaps more because from my own experience, the bars have better results.

They've got bars for people with dry skin, fragrance allergies, sensitive skin, oily skin, and more. They also have a laundry/detergent product, which I haven't tried, but according to a friend of mine, it does a great job of removing stains on your clothing.

As for me, I use their Shampoo and Conditioner soap bar and their Olive Oil soap bar. I also used to use their Aloe Vera soap bar back when my skin was suuper dry; flaky almost but thanks to the Aloe Vera soap, my skin is fine now. 8DD Their Shampoo and Conditioner bar is made purely of vegetable oils, and contains Aloe Vera as a conditioner for your hair. It's awesome. The Olive Oil bar is also made purely of natural products (including olive oil) and it's really moisturizing. You can also use it as a shaving bar.

For more info, check out their website!

P.S. For people in Toronto, these bars are not difficult to find. Surely, you will not be able to find these bars in big malls or drug stores. However, ask at any natural health product store and they should have it. Or, do a store lookup at their website. Also, for those who cannot access a retailer or do not want to order online, you may PM me if you like. I live super close to a retailer (one block away ish) and I can send you a bar or two.

Thank you for sharing

I wanted to ask if you think rose oil would be an adequate substitute for the camellia oil?

Camellia oil is my number-one choice for hair, since the structure is similar to our natural oils, and has little fragrance. I guess rose oil would be ok? but it would be highly perfumed. I'd recommend going with an oil that is usually used for the hair.