[neogeo1990]

Thanks for your advice eunbit. I managed to find out that the next nearest town has a l'occitane shop. I can hopefully find a marseille's soap there. I think it would be around the same price as a bar of l'occitane if I bought it from any of the online stores due to the delivery price. I'll get back to you once I have some results. I'm going to just start off with the body and see how my eczema goes.

Btw, does anyone know the full list for the Marseille soap bar from l'occitane? Doesn't have an ingredient list on the website =/

[dayori]

hmm... i heard really good things about chagrin valley soap on the everyday minerals/makeupalley. https://www.everydayminerals.com/index.php?...c=1393.msg78801


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EDIT:

i think i soompier is selling them: http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=123900

[T h i]

Woah, I just found this thread, and I was like "Woah." :3
I never used face cream/moisturizer in my life ..yet. :x Or make-up.
I use Head And Shoulders, don't know if thats bad, probably is. Then Fructis Garnier Shampoo and Conditioner.
Haven't really paid attention to labels, but now I have the feeling I should. ><
And I feel like I should stay away from chemical bad brand commerical products now.

I really want to try the soap, but my Mom insist on Dove.
Since it smelled good. >.>;;
So I'll just have to try to buy it on here, if your selling it.
If you are, I'm very interested. :3

And my Mom thinks Colgate is the way to go.
But I heard that was bad for your teeth too..
Besides soap, is there any toothpaste that you recommend that does the LEAST damage?

Also, is Complexion Beauty Pure Soap good? :3

[flantastic]

PETROLATUM, PETROLEUM, MINERAL OIL:
Comes from crude oil (petroleum) used in industry as metal cutting fluid. May suffocate the skin by forming an oil film. Healthy skin needs to take in oxygen and release carbon dioxide. This process should not be inhibited. Holding large amounts of moisture in the skin can "flood" the biology, and may result in immature, unhealthy, sensitive skin that dries out easily.

wait, does this mean using vaseline (pure petroleum jelly) for chapped lips isn't good? @_@

[Maybelline Li]

You're in the "detox" mode. It's stripping all the silicone coating and such. Just stick to it for a while and it'll get better. =) Don't do the vinegar rinse every day though, do it like once a week at most or it'll be too much for your hair. You were only suppose to do the vinegar rinse a couple of times the first one or two use but over doing it might dry out your hair (which results in dandruff). You don't have to massage it that long really.. just shampoo like normal and condition. After my hair dries, I usually brush out my hair to distribute the oils.

where is the directions for the vinegar rinse? i can't seem to find it.

[crazyANDdelusional]

^ I don't know if there are instructions here, but I found out about the vinegar rinse at http://www.chagrinvalleysoapandcraft.com/shampving.htm. I really like using it~ My hair's so soft now!<3

[faithpuppy]

For soap, I highly recommend The Soap Works company. All of their products are made from healthy, natural, and beneficial ingredients. In addition, they have many different types of bar soaps and liquid soaps, though I recommend the bar soaps more because from my own experience, the bars have better results.

They've got bars for people with dry skin, fragrance allergies, sensitive skin, oily skin, and more. They also have a laundry/detergent product, which I haven't tried, but according to a friend of mine, it does a great job of removing stains on your clothing.

As for me, I use their Shampoo and Conditioner soap bar and their Olive Oil soap bar. I also used to use their Aloe Vera soap bar back when my skin was suuper dry; flaky almost but thanks to the Aloe Vera soap, my skin is fine now. 8DD Their Shampoo and Conditioner bar is made purely of vegetable oils, and contains Aloe Vera as a conditioner for your hair. It's awesome. The Olive Oil bar is also made purely of natural products (including olive oil) and it's really moisturizing. You can also use it as a shaving bar.

For more info, check out their website!

P.S. For people in Toronto, these bars are not difficult to find. Surely, you will not be able to find these bars in big malls or drug stores. However, ask at any natural health product store and they should have it. Or, do a store lookup at their website. Also, for those who cannot access a retailer or do not want to order online, you may PM me if you like. I live super close to a retailer (one block away ish) and I can send you a bar or two.

I'm so glad I read this post xD There's no way I could've ordered the Olivia's care brand other soaps online, and the store that had the soap works was very close by
I got the Aloe Vera with Vit. E one and tried it just now.
My hair felt pretty unsmooth [erm....rough??] when I washed with it, but now that its dried, it actually doesn't feel that bad!
It doesn't feel that dried or damaged like other people have said before...but that might be because I skipped using conditioner in my hair for a week or so
The only uncomfortable thing is that part of my scalp feels mildly itchy

[kimi]

I just bought a bar of Olivia Care soap. Haven't tried it out yet though one of the ingredients was "Glycerin"
Isn't that bad though?

I was wondering which soap exactly do you use?

(btw mine has green tea fragrance"

[x3FOBBiiLiZZiix3]

wow,, so much reading but its very interesting :]
i don't think i'm ready to make such a huge change but changing little by little is a start,, right? lol
i think i'll start off with face cleansing with the soap,, x]
is the olivia soap or marseille soap sold in stores or is it only online?
btw,, thanks for putting so much time to post these experiences and information up!

[faithpuppy]

I just bought a bar of Olivia Care soap. Haven't tried it out yet though one of the ingredients was "Glycerin"
Isn't that bad though?

I was wondering which soap exactly do you use?

(btw mine has green tea fragrance"

that makes me wonder, is glycerin and glycerine the same thing? or are they different?

[Tao]

So after reading this, I feel a bit uh... bad haha.
I use Bed Head and I'm sure you know, there are alot of bad things in this product.

After finding this out though, I went over to amazon and bought that Japanese oil hair product that is listed on the first post.

I usually wash my hair though 3 times a week or 2 times if I just get lazy or distracted by homework. Although this might sound bad, I do take a bath everyday, but I use oils and home-made soap so, I am not as dirty as you think.

Anyways my question, do you think that I could just switch from Bed Head to that oil I just ordered? As in using it 2-3 times a week.

Thank you for the enlightenment!

[papiroflexia]

Now, about alum blocks..... oops, this turned rather lengthy.... ^^;

One thing which I did not really elaborate on before is how using Soap will destroy the reason for using a deordorant. (Refer to Why Soap is Antibacterial) But antiperspirant.....
Alum blocks are not that much different from modern anti-perspirants. They both prevent you from sweating by blocking your sweat glands with aluminum salts.
However, this is the reason why they are potentially quite dangerous.
If you don't shave, tweeze, wax or otherwise regularly rid yourself of armpit hairs, not too much worries; the aluminum salts aren't big enough to penetrate unbroken skin. But broken skin...!
If there's a break in the skin, there's a pretty good chance for the aluminum salts to make their way into your bloodstream. Um, they're suspected to be sorta toxic, and possibly linked to breast cancer so that's a scenario you'll want to avoid.

What's truly unfortunate is that it's mostly women who are susceptible to this, from microscopic shaving nicks (even if you didn't bleed they're still there), tweezing, waxing or chemical procedures to rid themselves of armpit hair. I suspect this is at least partly why aluminum salts have been linked to breast cancer <- which actually does occur among men, but in much smaller numbers.

Though alum aka potassium alum, is a naturally occurring form of aluminum salt and its larger molecular size means that it's not believed to be absorbed through human skin, I feel that as another aluminum salt, it isn't much safer for use than aluminum chlorohydrate (common in manufactured deodorants/antiperspirants) on armpits. Also, broken skin is broken skin; even table salt can make its way in if you have a gaping hole in the dermis.

My recommendation is to not use deordorant or antiperspirant, if at all possible. That Dove? Secret? figure about "1 in 4 Women Have Hyperhydrosis" is a total lie. Well ok, they don't say "hyperhydrosis" but they do imply that 25% of all women have excessive severe uncontrollable sweating problems, which WE DON'T. Filthy corporate liars. Hmph.

Not using deodorant/antiperspirant means no embarrassing white spots on your clothes or your prom date's when he lifts you up for a picture; it means that your white shirts will not develop nasty permanent yellow armpit stains, and best of all, little chance of aluminum salt poisoning.

If you really do have abnormal sweating problems, you should first educate yourself as much as possible on the theorized causes and treatments, THEN consider going to a doctor or not. While a doctor would be more knowledgeable offhand (possibly) you as a patient have a lot more vested interest in your health, and a lot more time to devote to it. Did you know that a doctor who gives a correct diagnosis 30% of the time will be quite the distinguished medical clinician? Yes, they're wrong that often. Which is why House is so fun to watch and so unrealistic ^-^

Oh wow. I didn't know this much about deodorant and the alum block! I'm seriously losing hope for those marketing industries. (x
And all this time, I thought the alum block was completely harmless and natural.
And about deodorant, I found out about Tom's Natural Deodorant and it seemed harmless until I read some ingredients on their site and found words with more than 4 syllables and sounded like a lab experiment so I gave up.
But I did notice that ever since I started scrubbing/washing my body with water only I didn't sweat as much as I used to. My body lotion is now 100% pure sweet almond oil, it does the job without acting up. It's a natural moisturizer and is use alot by masseuse.
I also noticed that it's better if people started switching slowly to soap and etc. because your body adjusts better, don't just jump to it out of nowhere. At least that's how I'm doing it, I'll try the soap thing for my hair in summer though, right now I'm use using a sulfate-free shampoo and conditioner.

[Flicksityy]

I got too lazy to read the whole post, but are you advising us to eat soap instead of using toothpaste? ... o.o

[wintery-days]

thanks for sharing these infos! new infos to me

[freyafrey]

wow, thanks for all the infos ^^

anyway, I just got a homemade castile soap
the ingredients are olive oil, palm, oil, coconut oil, castor oil, beeswax, goat's milk powder, distilled water and NaOH
is there anything dangerous?
and I wonder if I can use it as replacement of toothpaste

[iKiwiKisses]

Gah. I can't use soap I have since it contains Glycerin. It's Irish Spring I think. Well, at least I know my shampoo and lotion is safe. I won't use it a lot though >,< I'll see if I can replace the soap I have.

[pink1e]

Maybelline Li
Vinegar rinse: one part vinegar to four parts water. Translates to half cup vinegar to 2 cups water

kimi
I read that glycerin in small amounts is okay. I'm wondering if the glycerin is added (which is bad) or was already in the ingredients. That was the big question that I wanted to find out.

x3FOBBiiLiZZiix3
I have one more extra bar of Olivia Care soap if you want it. =) I'm selling it for $7 shipped. You'll receive it pretty fast too since you're in California too =D

faithpuppy
glycerine and glycerin are the same word. =) I wiki-ed it lol.

[faithpuppy]

I got too lazy to read the whole post, but are you advising us to eat soap instead of using toothpaste? ... o.o

She's advising you to USE soap instead of toothpaste, not to EAT soap!!!

[`LANE]

question ! on the olivia care website under the "O" line.. what is the difference between the 3pack & 4pack ? i only know that each bar has a different weight, but the prices are the same. I'm interested in trying out this SOAP only regime.
do you recommend green tea ? or mandarin ? (i know you use mandarin).

[littleblackdress]

So I've been using soap (Olivia Care; the Mandarin kind!) as shampoo/body wash/toothpaste for only a few days now, but I am super pleased with how it's working out! Not to sound like a ProActiv commercial or anything x)

My hair is softer in a way that I've never really achieved with using conditioner, too. My hair is permed and I was initially worried that using just soap would somehow mess up my hair, but.. yeah, not true. I don't even have to use a lot of soap for there to be a lot of suds (I still make shampoo mohawks in the shower and stuff) and I just feel cleaner. It's a rather nice nice feeling haha.. oh! And I have dry skin, so usually I end up slathering on lotion after showering~ but I've noticed recently that my skin doesn't dry out so quickly anymore and a little lotion goes a long way.

Good stuff, yo.