Wow very informative... but I have a question since you mention you used to wear coverage.
Do you still wear any make up? If so, what type and how often?
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Heat Styling:
For me, it's a don't. B/c hair has water inside the cuticle, most styling tools are TOO HOT and end up micro-boiling INSIDE the hair. That is why using an iron on wet hair is deadly damage, but even dry hair has water inside the cuticle, which can rupture/split the hair as it expands suddenly.
To have perfectly healthy hair, you have to style it without heat. If you need volume, you can put big velcro rollers in, maybe misting hair with water to make it damp first, and take them out when hair completely dries. Or tie damp hair up into a loose high ponytail before sleeping.
If you want curls, there are a lot of ways to rag-curl and pin-curl clean damp hair. If you curl wet hair and wait for it to dry this way, those curls are going to LAST. Every time I do a rag-curling, ppl ask me if I got a perm - it's that curly, even bangs/fringe. Making it look pretty does take time, skill and effort (this is why women would go to a salon to get their hair "set" back in the 50's; these were temporary settings with water and curlers which were aided by that big funny-looking dryer dome).
You can adjust the thickness of the rags, wrapping and placement to make totally different looking curly hair. I have waist-length hair but I can make my hair into forties-style neat shoulder-length curls, Shirley Temple ringlets, flower-child hippie waves, Victorian-era "sausage" curls, etc. And the curls and volume last until you wash them out. Really. They may loosen a bit, but you'll need water/water vapor/steam for sure to have them fall flat. (Which is why women used to wear shower caps... it was to preserve their styled, set hair.)
Makeup:
In the morning, I'll rinse my face lightly with water or not, depending on how my face feels. Now it usually just feels clean and bright, so it's a single light splashing, and lightest touch with a clean towel.
I apply Lancome UV Expert 20 evenly to my face and neck, giving especial care to forehead/hairline and top of cheeks.
While I wait for the sunblock to set/dry, I curl my eyelashes (Shu Uemura) and lightly pencil line them (Rimmel Specialeyes Black Magic). I finish off my eyes with mascara (top only, like liner) taking care to make them dark but separated.
1 pump of foundation (Giorgio Armani Silk, 4) onto my left hand as a palete: I make a few small dots on the areas I need coverage; left cheek for acne discoloration marks, corner of nostrils, chin. I blend them in carefully using my right ringer finger to swipe/pat (not press/smush) surface of the skin. I use the rest of the foundation evenly on my forehead, cheeks, nose, neck.
For lips that look pretty but natural, I swipe on Davies Gate lip balm lightly, then use Benefit Benetint rose stain. The stain takes a little technique to keep it looking light, but there's no reason to dip the brush in the bottle again; more than enough in first brush.
That's it! I don't use powder (ruins the complexion) or silicon smoother base.
I wear makeup on weekdays. On my days off, or when I'm staying at home, etc, I don't put anything on my face (no sunscreen either, b/c I don't venture outdoors lol)
An answer for lightly flakey skin!!
This is something I tried after showering last night. [I had skipped exfoliating during the shower before (lack of time) and so I had more than usual amount of ddae (dead skin cell/dirt/oil peels) to get rid of during my shower last night. It's harder to exfoliate well in shower, so I ended up with slightly flakey-looking arms/legs. Ick.]
Towel-deflakement: Do this only at night.
Immediately after showering, if you see that your skin is sorta micro-flakey at the top but the skin itself is in a properly good healthy condition (flexible, no painful tightness, dryness, itching, pain) take a small clean handtowel or washcloth and make half of it very lightly wetted with water. It should be just barely damp to the touch, not wet, not dripping.
Sit down. Folding the washcloth so it's easier to hold, very very lightly rub at the flakey skin with soft, round motions. If it's the topmost superficial layer of skin (that's what we're aiming for) rubbing the limbs lightly with the damp towel will smooth away the flakes/ashiness.
Don't do this with a dry towel or on very dry skin. Since you're removing the topmost layer of skin, you'll also lose some oil from skin's surface. Because of that, the skin might feel a little 'tight' to the touch and look a bit shiny and smooth: stop right there. Using the dampish towel will feel very nice to the skin, but once the skin dries it will feel drier and tighter. This towel-deflakement should NOT be done until it hurts. Since you are doing this at night before bed, your skin will have the time/peace/increased body heat to accelerate skin healing-proper oil lubrication during the night. In the morning, your skin will feel healthier and look smooth and pretty. Since I exfoliate regularly, my skin is in good condition but doing this towel-deflakement make my shoulders, arms, and legs smoother and satiny.
I was pretty excited to find out this worked nicely on superficially flakey, ashy-looking skin. If anyone was still using a lotion to get rid of the flakiness, here is your answer!
If you guys try it, please post how your body has been adjust to washing with soap, whether or not you exfoliate regularly and how and how your skin looked and felt in the morning. Hope it helps! and Thanks! ^.^
For me, it's a don't. B/c hair has water inside the cuticle, most styling tools are TOO HOT and end up micro-boiling INSIDE the hair. That is why using an iron on wet hair is deadly damage, but even dry hair has water inside the cuticle, which can rupture/split the hair as it expands suddenly.
To have perfectly healthy hair, you have to style it without heat. If you need volume, you can put big velcro rollers in, maybe misting hair with water to make it damp first, and take them out when hair completely dries. Or tie damp hair up into a loose high ponytail before sleeping.
If you want curls, there are a lot of ways to rag-curl and pin-curl clean damp hair. If you curl wet hair and wait for it to dry this way, those curls are going to LAST. Every time I do a rag-curling, ppl ask me if I got a perm - it's that curly, even bangs/fringe. Making it look pretty does take time, skill and effort (this is why women would go to a salon to get their hair "set" back in the 50's; these were temporary settings with water and curlers which were aided by that big funny-looking dryer dome).
You can adjust the thickness of the rags, wrapping and placement to make totally different looking curly hair. I have waist-length hair but I can make my hair into forties-style neat shoulder-length curls, Shirley Temple ringlets, flower-child hippie waves, Victorian-era "sausage" curls, etc. And the curls and volume last until you wash them out. Really. They may loosen a bit, but you'll need water/water vapor/steam for sure to have them fall flat. (Which is why women used to wear shower caps... it was to preserve their styled, set hair.)
Makeup:
In the morning, I'll rinse my face lightly with water or not, depending on how my face feels. Now it usually just feels clean and bright, so it's a single light splashing, and lightest touch with a clean towel.
I apply Lancome UV Expert 20 evenly to my face and neck, giving especial care to forehead/hairline and top of cheeks.
While I wait for the sunblock to set/dry, I curl my eyelashes (Shu Uemura) and lightly pencil line them (Rimmel Specialeyes Black Magic). I finish off my eyes with mascara (top only, like liner) taking care to make them dark but separated.
1 pump of foundation (Giorgio Armani Silk, 4) onto my left hand as a palete: I make a few small dots on the areas I need coverage; left cheek for acne discoloration marks, corner of nostrils, chin. I blend them in carefully using my right ringer finger to swipe/pat (not press/smush) surface of the skin. I use the rest of the foundation evenly on my forehead, cheeks, nose, neck.
For lips that look pretty but natural, I swipe on Davies Gate lip balm lightly, then use Benefit Benetint rose stain. The stain takes a little technique to keep it looking light, but there's no reason to dip the brush in the bottle again; more than enough in first brush.
That's it! I don't use powder (ruins the complexion) or silicon smoother base.
I wear makeup on weekdays. On my days off, or when I'm staying at home, etc, I don't put anything on my face (no sunscreen either, b/c I don't venture outdoors lol)
An answer for lightly flakey skin!!
This is something I tried after showering last night. [I had skipped exfoliating during the shower before (lack of time) and so I had more than usual amount of ddae (dead skin cell/dirt/oil peels) to get rid of during my shower last night. It's harder to exfoliate well in shower, so I ended up with slightly flakey-looking arms/legs. Ick.]
Towel-deflakement: Do this only at night.
Immediately after showering, if you see that your skin is sorta micro-flakey at the top but the skin itself is in a properly good healthy condition (flexible, no painful tightness, dryness, itching, pain) take a small clean handtowel or washcloth and make half of it very lightly wetted with water. It should be just barely damp to the touch, not wet, not dripping.
Sit down. Folding the washcloth so it's easier to hold, very very lightly rub at the flakey skin with soft, round motions. If it's the topmost superficial layer of skin (that's what we're aiming for) rubbing the limbs lightly with the damp towel will smooth away the flakes/ashiness.
Don't do this with a dry towel or on very dry skin. Since you're removing the topmost layer of skin, you'll also lose some oil from skin's surface. Because of that, the skin might feel a little 'tight' to the touch and look a bit shiny and smooth: stop right there. Using the dampish towel will feel very nice to the skin, but once the skin dries it will feel drier and tighter. This towel-deflakement should NOT be done until it hurts. Since you are doing this at night before bed, your skin will have the time/peace/increased body heat to accelerate skin healing-proper oil lubrication during the night. In the morning, your skin will feel healthier and look smooth and pretty. Since I exfoliate regularly, my skin is in good condition but doing this towel-deflakement make my shoulders, arms, and legs smoother and satiny.
I was pretty excited to find out this worked nicely on superficially flakey, ashy-looking skin. If anyone was still using a lotion to get rid of the flakiness, here is your answer!
If you guys try it, please post how your body has been adjust to washing with soap, whether or not you exfoliate regularly and how and how your skin looked and felt in the morning. Hope it helps! and Thanks! ^.^
-What is soap? The difference between soap and detergents? Detergents are for things, Soap is for people.
-Using Soap! Eunbit's Routine, Product Recs- -Eunbit's story- -Our Forced Addictions- -Bad soaps- -Good soaps- --Hair and Soap and How- Harmful Ingredients; they're in Lush too some clarifications: really, you guys =_=. Adjustment Period, Side effects- -Using Hairspray- -After Exercising--Naturally Antibacterial Nature of Soaps Soap for teeth....? alum / deordorants
-Using Soap! Eunbit's Routine, Product Recs- -Eunbit's story- -Our Forced Addictions- -Bad soaps- -Good soaps- --Hair and Soap and How- Harmful Ingredients; they're in Lush too some clarifications: really, you guys =_=. Adjustment Period, Side effects- -Using Hairspray- -After Exercising--Naturally Antibacterial Nature of Soaps Soap for teeth....? alum / deordorants
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:46 PM
I stumbled upon this thread and it caught my attention. After I read it, I found that over 90% of the products I use have glycerin or alcohol, etc. I definitely freaked out. I knew that these chemicals were not natural, but I didn't know that it can harm us. I knew that something was wrong. I also didn't understand why I'd still have pimples at my age. I also wondered why none of the products was helping to improve my skin and hair. I had feeling that marketing was always the one who would lure consumers to by useless product, but I didn't know how and with what? I've always noticed that the face wash always made my skin feel super dry and the moisturizing creams have very little effectiveness to improve my skin. Thanks to this thread, I want to try this out myself.
I just started for 2 days, and I noticed that my skin felt tight for the first try. It made my skin dry, but not to the point that it was unbearable. I added sunscreen before I left and my skin feels great! During the first night, I washed my face with soap and I used a bit of moisturizer because I was afraid my face wouldn't adjust for the first night. Today, I tried using soap to wash my face again and I didn't feel any pain or dryness at all. Though I still feel my skin tightening. I didn't have to put any moisture this time and I felt relaxed. I wasn't worried if my skin was to dry, which I'd usually do when I wash my face with a facial cleanser. I would have to say that my skin does look better as in, I don't have dry skin anymore. I haven't noticed any major break outs with the natural soap, so I would say it is currently working for me. I also noticed, my skin feels soft while using the natural soap(100% Rocky Mountain Soap)<name of the soap. I would say buying natural soap is a lot cheaper than buying over the counter/convenient store products. I'm going to stick with the natural soap and see what it will do over the next couple of months. I hope all goes well.
I washed my hair with natural soap as well, While I washing, I felt my hair was so dry and hard to lather. I didn't put any conditioner because I was afraid my hair would get too greasy from all the vegetable/olive oil(that's the ingredients of what the soap was made of). The soap I used had no scent so it's just natural soap. I didn't like the feeling after I rinsed my hair. After I rinsed my hair, I felt my hair had no moisture. It felt really chunky, but after an hour or two when my hair was completely dry(I didn't blow dry my hair) my hair didn't felt nice. It wasn't oily or rough at all. It was okay. I'm going to try to wash my hair with soap again. It will be my second time. I'll see if anything happens.
More info about where to purchase natural soaps:
I went to a store that purposely sells handmade soaps. The store uses 100% Natural ingredients. I think it's true because I checked the lists of ingredients and it looks legit. The store doesn't have an overly power smell like most Face and Body Shop do. So if anyone you can try this site(this site can ship internationally). The soaps I purchased are Avocado Facial Bar, Northern Exposure Soap w. Oatmeal, and Bar None Soap. There are other varieties as well.
Site: http://www.rockymountainsoap.com
Bar None Soap -
Description: Sensitive and Allergic skins.
Ingredients: water, saponified oils of coconut (cocos nucifera oil), vegetable and olive oil (olea europaea oil).
Northern Exposure Soap w. Oatmeal -Sensitive and Allergic skins.
Description: Dry and irritated skin types. Face, Hands and Body
Ingredients:Water, saponified oils of coconut (cocos nucifera oil), vegetable and olive oil (olea europaea oil), cocoa butter (theobroma cacao seed butter), chamomile (matricaria chamomilla), oatmeal (avena sativa kernel meal) and sweet almond oil (prunus amydgalus dulcis).
Sorry for the long post.
I just started for 2 days, and I noticed that my skin felt tight for the first try. It made my skin dry, but not to the point that it was unbearable. I added sunscreen before I left and my skin feels great! During the first night, I washed my face with soap and I used a bit of moisturizer because I was afraid my face wouldn't adjust for the first night. Today, I tried using soap to wash my face again and I didn't feel any pain or dryness at all. Though I still feel my skin tightening. I didn't have to put any moisture this time and I felt relaxed. I wasn't worried if my skin was to dry, which I'd usually do when I wash my face with a facial cleanser. I would have to say that my skin does look better as in, I don't have dry skin anymore. I haven't noticed any major break outs with the natural soap, so I would say it is currently working for me. I also noticed, my skin feels soft while using the natural soap(100% Rocky Mountain Soap)<name of the soap. I would say buying natural soap is a lot cheaper than buying over the counter/convenient store products. I'm going to stick with the natural soap and see what it will do over the next couple of months. I hope all goes well.
I washed my hair with natural soap as well, While I washing, I felt my hair was so dry and hard to lather. I didn't put any conditioner because I was afraid my hair would get too greasy from all the vegetable/olive oil(that's the ingredients of what the soap was made of). The soap I used had no scent so it's just natural soap. I didn't like the feeling after I rinsed my hair. After I rinsed my hair, I felt my hair had no moisture. It felt really chunky, but after an hour or two when my hair was completely dry(I didn't blow dry my hair) my hair didn't felt nice. It wasn't oily or rough at all. It was okay. I'm going to try to wash my hair with soap again. It will be my second time. I'll see if anything happens.
More info about where to purchase natural soaps:
I went to a store that purposely sells handmade soaps. The store uses 100% Natural ingredients. I think it's true because I checked the lists of ingredients and it looks legit. The store doesn't have an overly power smell like most Face and Body Shop do. So if anyone you can try this site(this site can ship internationally). The soaps I purchased are Avocado Facial Bar, Northern Exposure Soap w. Oatmeal, and Bar None Soap. There are other varieties as well.
Site: http://www.rockymountainsoap.com
Bar None Soap -
Description: Sensitive and Allergic skins.
Ingredients: water, saponified oils of coconut (cocos nucifera oil), vegetable and olive oil (olea europaea oil).
Northern Exposure Soap w. Oatmeal -Sensitive and Allergic skins.
Description: Dry and irritated skin types. Face, Hands and Body
Ingredients:Water, saponified oils of coconut (cocos nucifera oil), vegetable and olive oil (olea europaea oil), cocoa butter (theobroma cacao seed butter), chamomile (matricaria chamomilla), oatmeal (avena sativa kernel meal) and sweet almond oil (prunus amydgalus dulcis).
Sorry for the long post.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:50 PM
so i tried out the soap thing for couple of weeks, but my hair went berserk
so yesterday, i decided to give up and used shampoo&conditioner (in very minute amounts)
but reading your post encouraged me to start using soap again
even though my hair looks gross and i have to put it in a bun/braid everyday :/
btw, what do you suggest if we have to take a shower everyday? (i do sports, so i sweat a lot)
so yesterday, i decided to give up and used shampoo&conditioner (in very minute amounts)
but reading your post encouraged me to start using soap again
even though my hair looks gross and i have to put it in a bun/braid everyday :/
btw, what do you suggest if we have to take a shower everyday? (i do sports, so i sweat a lot)
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:14 PM
Hazuki86, thank you for your great post. It's finding experiences like these by other Soompiers which make it worthwhile when I write my ongoing posts/explanations. Also, thank you for posting info on the soaps you use. They look pretty great.
crazykyootie, the transition period definitely takes dedication and effort. Sometimes in the beginning, my arms would actually get tired from the multiple soap washings I had to do each time I washed my hair o.o Now, I spend as little time washing my hair as I did when I used commercial shampoos. Because once the buildup is (finally) gone, it's gone. In any case, you definitely have less buildup now then someone who's never used good Soap. So it's not starting completely over!
If you're athletic, don't be stressed trying to stretch out the periods between showers. Washing your body everyday is fine, and you can experiment to see if using just water is an option. If you do use soap, don't sweat it! :
: It's a far better choice than the commercial products, and you probably will need a little soap to clean well in that case. Just listen to your body, note what happens each time, and use your increasing knowledge to take even better care of yourself.
crazykyootie, the transition period definitely takes dedication and effort. Sometimes in the beginning, my arms would actually get tired from the multiple soap washings I had to do each time I washed my hair o.o Now, I spend as little time washing my hair as I did when I used commercial shampoos. Because once the buildup is (finally) gone, it's gone. In any case, you definitely have less buildup now then someone who's never used good Soap. So it's not starting completely over!
If you're athletic, don't be stressed trying to stretch out the periods between showers. Washing your body everyday is fine, and you can experiment to see if using just water is an option. If you do use soap, don't sweat it! :
: It's a far better choice than the commercial products, and you probably will need a little soap to clean well in that case. Just listen to your body, note what happens each time, and use your increasing knowledge to take even better care of yourself.
-What is soap? The difference between soap and detergents? Detergents are for things, Soap is for people.
-Using Soap! Eunbit's Routine, Product Recs- -Eunbit's story- -Our Forced Addictions- -Bad soaps- -Good soaps- --Hair and Soap and How- Harmful Ingredients; they're in Lush too some clarifications: really, you guys =_=. Adjustment Period, Side effects- -Using Hairspray- -After Exercising--Naturally Antibacterial Nature of Soaps Soap for teeth....? alum / deordorants
-Using Soap! Eunbit's Routine, Product Recs- -Eunbit's story- -Our Forced Addictions- -Bad soaps- -Good soaps- --Hair and Soap and How- Harmful Ingredients; they're in Lush too some clarifications: really, you guys =_=. Adjustment Period, Side effects- -Using Hairspray- -After Exercising--Naturally Antibacterial Nature of Soaps Soap for teeth....? alum / deordorants
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:33 AM
I have just 1 question. I buy Marseille Soap (OLIVE LAVENDER BONNE MERE SOAP), from L'Occitane En Provence.
I wash my hair and the go to sleep.Sa after I woke up i tried to brush them but a lot of my hair wass falling out.Is that how it was going to be,will later be better? (I'm sorry for my poor english)
I wash my hair and the go to sleep.Sa after I woke up i tried to brush them but a lot of my hair wass falling out.Is that how it was going to be,will later be better? (I'm sorry for my poor english)
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:33 AM
#1)Hey I don't know if you would know this but does plain water (no soap, no commercial products) have an adverse effect in any way when washing your hair and body? This is more asking about the hair since I can already guess your body won't be that phased by plain water.
I ask because I've been showering and rinsing my hair everyday with only water. I assumed there would not be a significant advantage from taking only 3 "water" showers a week compared to 7 "water" showers a week.
Does it depend on your water? Hardness and the stuff that's in the water?
#2 What is the texture of your hair now? I only ask to compare with mine. Mine feels healthier, stronger, natural etc... but the actual texture feels thick and fuller, with hairs staying together. I definitely enjoy this part.
Also, it feels like there's a film of oil protecting each hair. It does feel more natural and I was surprised there was no oil residue on my hands after i touched my hair as opposed to the grease ball that was my head after one day without shampooing (when I would actually use shampoo).
This part is different and will take some getting used to because it feels "filmy" or waxy which is weird; of course, this discomfort is because commercial products have drilled into our heads that any oil = bad but yes I understand that this is just my hair adjusting to the "natural healthy" body oil level.
I'm wondering, does this oil texture go away significantly or does it just lessen as time goes on?
I am not complaining, I just said it's different that's all and was wondering if it goes away or just lessens. I did not say this texture is bad. I know this is the right level of oil that my hair needs to be healthy. Again, this is not me crying over some discomfort, I'm just curious how my hair's texture is going to turn out. I'm never going back to shampoo again.
(just to make it clear that there is no lecturing needed here (after seeing your last reply) , I'm already on your side, don't worry
. I just want some simple answers)
I ask because I've been showering and rinsing my hair everyday with only water. I assumed there would not be a significant advantage from taking only 3 "water" showers a week compared to 7 "water" showers a week.
Does it depend on your water? Hardness and the stuff that's in the water?
#2 What is the texture of your hair now? I only ask to compare with mine. Mine feels healthier, stronger, natural etc... but the actual texture feels thick and fuller, with hairs staying together. I definitely enjoy this part.
Also, it feels like there's a film of oil protecting each hair. It does feel more natural and I was surprised there was no oil residue on my hands after i touched my hair as opposed to the grease ball that was my head after one day without shampooing (when I would actually use shampoo).
This part is different and will take some getting used to because it feels "filmy" or waxy which is weird; of course, this discomfort is because commercial products have drilled into our heads that any oil = bad but yes I understand that this is just my hair adjusting to the "natural healthy" body oil level.
I'm wondering, does this oil texture go away significantly or does it just lessen as time goes on?
I am not complaining, I just said it's different that's all and was wondering if it goes away or just lessens. I did not say this texture is bad. I know this is the right level of oil that my hair needs to be healthy. Again, this is not me crying over some discomfort, I'm just curious how my hair's texture is going to turn out. I'm never going back to shampoo again.
(just to make it clear that there is no lecturing needed here (after seeing your last reply) , I'm already on your side, don't worry
. I just want some simple answers)
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 11:13 AM
Doesn't coconut oil clog pores? I wouldn't wash with soap containing coconut oil.
This is really interesting. I just wish the soaps were more readily available... I don't like the idea of having to order my soap online.
If I can't find a nice three-ingredient simple soap in stores, I'm going to order an Olivia Care soap to try it out.
Fluoride is, indeed, bad.
When I was a baby, the area where I lived had a tremendous amount of fluoride in the water. Now, 20 years later, my teeth have no enamel. They are an off-white bone color and have spots. I have what is called severe fluorosis of the teeth.
I really want to start using just soap even though my teeth are already damaged.
I know you're against Ivory soap because of the sodium tallowate, but would it be okay to use it to brush my teeth?
This is really interesting. I just wish the soaps were more readily available... I don't like the idea of having to order my soap online.
If I can't find a nice three-ingredient simple soap in stores, I'm going to order an Olivia Care soap to try it out.
Fluoride is, indeed, bad.
When I was a baby, the area where I lived had a tremendous amount of fluoride in the water. Now, 20 years later, my teeth have no enamel. They are an off-white bone color and have spots. I have what is called severe fluorosis of the teeth.
I really want to start using just soap even though my teeth are already damaged.
I know you're against Ivory soap because of the sodium tallowate, but would it be okay to use it to brush my teeth?
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:08 PM
News from me: Ummm I've been doing this for about a week now and I think the waxyness is dying down just a little bit. Like retreating to my ends kinds of. Because before my whole head was waxy, but now it's only half my hair that is. I think that's because I didn't use that much conditioner on the top of my head compared to the ends, because my mother always told me I was a greasy little girl.
I can see now that I'm NOT a greasy little girl, it was just the chemicals that made it that way. God damn. So much grief over that.
OH.
Hey guys, have you noticed while washing this white scum that comes out of your scalp??? I had this scum before when I was using shampoo, but it always smelled like sweat (gross i know, it made my hair smell bad closeup) and was kinda yellow. Now the scum is white and doesn't smell like anything. I'm gonna guess that it is dead skincells mixed in with the silicone from the conditioner.
Also to Eunbit: THank thank thank you for this thread. I love it so much and I feel that it backed up my suspicions for years now how we were doing more harm to our body than good with all these products. Once I'm successfully done with this (6 months I'm guessing) I'm gonna get my mom on it so I can prove her wrong about all those products she always uses. Heh heh. My mom is a product junkie. My hair isn't as oily any more and it smells so cleeeean. Before there was always this weird smell I could never shampoo out
Oh happy day.
To everyone else: Good luck! And let's stick to it >___< And post pictures of our beautiful selves in 6 months.
edit: omg, you guys. I forgot to put this, but I just washed my hair and the top part of my hair that isn't waxy dried in 5 minutes. The waxy part is still wet, but the top part is completely dry.
I can see now that I'm NOT a greasy little girl, it was just the chemicals that made it that way. God damn. So much grief over that.
OH.
Hey guys, have you noticed while washing this white scum that comes out of your scalp??? I had this scum before when I was using shampoo, but it always smelled like sweat (gross i know, it made my hair smell bad closeup) and was kinda yellow. Now the scum is white and doesn't smell like anything. I'm gonna guess that it is dead skincells mixed in with the silicone from the conditioner.
Also to Eunbit: THank thank thank you for this thread. I love it so much and I feel that it backed up my suspicions for years now how we were doing more harm to our body than good with all these products. Once I'm successfully done with this (6 months I'm guessing) I'm gonna get my mom on it so I can prove her wrong about all those products she always uses. Heh heh. My mom is a product junkie. My hair isn't as oily any more and it smells so cleeeean. Before there was always this weird smell I could never shampoo out
Oh happy day. To everyone else: Good luck! And let's stick to it >___< And post pictures of our beautiful selves in 6 months.
edit: omg, you guys. I forgot to put this, but I just washed my hair and the top part of my hair that isn't waxy dried in 5 minutes. The waxy part is still wet, but the top part is completely dry.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 07:22 PM
I've been using only soap for a whole week and decided to report back to everyone in this wonderful thread
I usually shower every other day anyways and don't use body wash (Hey, no one ever complained, and I don't sweat much), body lotion, and used very little shampoo and sometimes skipped conditioner (I am sadly very lazy), so the transition wasn't too hard for me. My hair still feels quite nice, and I'm happy knowing that I'm not piling chemicals on my body. I'll definitely keep this up and report back with results.
I usually shower every other day anyways and don't use body wash (Hey, no one ever complained, and I don't sweat much), body lotion, and used very little shampoo and sometimes skipped conditioner (I am sadly very lazy), so the transition wasn't too hard for me. My hair still feels quite nice, and I'm happy knowing that I'm not piling chemicals on my body. I'll definitely keep this up and report back with results.
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Eunbit, thanks so much for your thoughtful response.
My other question that I now have is regarding the use of pure shea butter and cocoa butter. Right now I use cocoa butter to help fade scars and stretch marks. It's pretty effective at fading the marks on my body, but it's always seemed too greasy to put on my previously jacked up skin. Now that my facial skin is improving do you think it is too oily for me to use as a spot treatment on my hyper pigmented skin?
Also because my natural new growth hair is very curly and can get pretty brittle without moisture and because my older hair has undergone a japanese hair straightening treatment, I use a touch of shea butter (a little goes a long way) to moisturize. I use it about two times for the week until i wash my hair again (many black girls - myself included - wash their hair only once a week).
Are either of these products ok to continue using?
My other question that I now have is regarding the use of pure shea butter and cocoa butter. Right now I use cocoa butter to help fade scars and stretch marks. It's pretty effective at fading the marks on my body, but it's always seemed too greasy to put on my previously jacked up skin. Now that my facial skin is improving do you think it is too oily for me to use as a spot treatment on my hyper pigmented skin?
Also because my natural new growth hair is very curly and can get pretty brittle without moisture and because my older hair has undergone a japanese hair straightening treatment, I use a touch of shea butter (a little goes a long way) to moisturize. I use it about two times for the week until i wash my hair again (many black girls - myself included - wash their hair only once a week).
Are either of these products ok to continue using?
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 02:31 AM
I don't know what to say but to thank you for giving your time to type in this topic. It was very inspirational for me and already trying this out without ever turning back on shampoos, conditioner, toothpaste, and any face cleanser. It's pretty weird because after reading the no poo method and they mention how harmful the chemicals are for the hair, and I start thinking if commercial soap are harmful as well. Then this topic just came out of no where. It's like someone heard my thoughts. I can't really explain in words but it answers my question right after I thought about it. I thought it was pretty interesting... haha
I am starting to use the soap and I even brush my teeth with it. It wasn't that bad and the taste wasn't strong as I thought it would be. I am really liking this so far because my skin currently is very smooth and I haven't put any moisturizer yet. The last time I remember it was this soft was right after cleaning my face with Aveeno's radiant exfoliating pads, but it burns a bit and it felt a bit uncomfy. So the soap has an advantage of it so far.
I am using this soap,South of France in lavender, and it contain about 6 ingredients (100% Vegetable oils: palm-coconut-olive, shea butter, mineral pigment and/or clay, natural fragrance and/or essential oil). I bought it at Longs Drug which you can find in some areas. They sell plenty of natural/organic soaps, shampoos, conditioner and other related products. They even have sun screen in that section and I'm thinking of checking it up again since I'm starting to concern about Aveeno Radiant Sun Screen spf 30.
I thought it was pretty neat since I never thought Longs Drug would sell them. Overall I really like this method so far and glad you take the time to introduce it on soompi. I thought it was something very useful I came across <333
I am starting to use the soap and I even brush my teeth with it. It wasn't that bad and the taste wasn't strong as I thought it would be. I am really liking this so far because my skin currently is very smooth and I haven't put any moisturizer yet. The last time I remember it was this soft was right after cleaning my face with Aveeno's radiant exfoliating pads, but it burns a bit and it felt a bit uncomfy. So the soap has an advantage of it so far.
I am using this soap,South of France in lavender, and it contain about 6 ingredients (100% Vegetable oils: palm-coconut-olive, shea butter, mineral pigment and/or clay, natural fragrance and/or essential oil). I bought it at Longs Drug which you can find in some areas. They sell plenty of natural/organic soaps, shampoos, conditioner and other related products. They even have sun screen in that section and I'm thinking of checking it up again since I'm starting to concern about Aveeno Radiant Sun Screen spf 30.
I thought it was pretty neat since I never thought Longs Drug would sell them. Overall I really like this method so far and glad you take the time to introduce it on soompi. I thought it was something very useful I came across <333
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i've been using soap for a week now. i wash my hair every other day but wash body everyday. so my hair has been feeling chunky/waxy/gross which made me pretty sad because i can't even touch my hair or even let my bf run his fingers through my hair. lol. but today i brushed my hair in the shower with a wide comb and when my hair dried it was perfect! no waxy/chunky/gross feeling at all. it took a lot longer because i had to be super careful when brushing my wet hair.
i dont exfoliate though so my legs have been looking like alligator skin :/ the rest of my body is fine because i never really put on lotion daily on my arms or upper body, only on my legs. am planning to go to korean spa soon so i can dunk in their hot baths and exfoliate there. am unable to exfoliate at home because i threw away the tub clogging thingy.
update on sunscreen: i purchased mexitan however i returned it because it contains titanium dioxide.
i dont exfoliate though so my legs have been looking like alligator skin :/ the rest of my body is fine because i never really put on lotion daily on my arms or upper body, only on my legs. am planning to go to korean spa soon so i can dunk in their hot baths and exfoliate there. am unable to exfoliate at home because i threw away the tub clogging thingy.
update on sunscreen: i purchased mexitan however i returned it because it contains titanium dioxide.
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*cries* I was going to order the Olivia care soap on their website and it only ships to U.S and Canada ><"
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:02 AM
alright i was checking out for alternatives and i found Burt's and Bee's soap. The Ingredients are Vegetable Soap Base , Kaolin , Non-Fat Dry Milk , Shea Butter - Butyrospermum Parkii , Fragrance. Is this an OK soap to use?
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hair doesn't lather: If your hair isn't lathering, even after you run soap over all the hair from hairline to ends and underneath, that means that the level of buildup on your hair is serious enough that you need to wash and fingertip-scrub several more times. you don't need a whole lot of suds (no Marie Antoinette piles here guys lol) to have clean hair, but there should definitely be lather/bubble foam present.
hair falling out more/ white scalp scum/ oil feeling of hair: If switching to soap coincides with spacing hair washings further apart, then yes, it will seem like you're losing more hair than before. But actually, you're probably losing less. Think of how much hair you'd lose in the drain using regular shampoo/conditioner. Then consider how many days a week you were washing your hair. Also how much you lose brushing your hair out every day vs detangling with a comb. At the beginning of using soap (back when all of my hair was quite waxy, which for me lasted quite a long time) I was still losing lots of hair each time I washed it. After the waxiness subsided, and after the level of "scalp scum" basically disappeared, I found I lost considerably fewer hairs than before, even though I wash my hair less frequently (twice a week). My hair seems much stronger now and resists being pulled out, even when I'm combing through it somewhat impatiently.
My theory is that as the skin of the scalp heals, it no longer outputs the extremely high level of sebum (skin's natural, slightly waxy oils) which the scalp developed as protection against harsh shampoo agents. Scalp recovery also seems to take much longer than body and even facial skin, which makes sense considering how many years of shampoo abuse the typical scalp has gone through. That whitish scalp scum does seem like a mix of dead skin cells, but with a very high concentration of sebum. I'm pretty sure everyone who's switched to soap from shampoo has experienced at least a little of this. For the record, after my scalp (and hair!) finished detoxing, the scalp scum/sebum is something I don't deal with at all.
Why? This is also my reasoning: that the composition/type of oils the scalp produces actually changes after the switch to soap/detox completion. Instead of being very waxy and heavy, it seems like the scalp's oils are more liquid and mild, providing lubrication for the hair instead of serving as a thick defensive layer to protect the scalp's delicate, easily irritated skin. In response to HSR, I'm guessing that the different 'oil' feeling coating the hair is progressive stage, and will change as you continue to shun shampoo in favor of water, and soap.
washing only with water: this seems like a very do-able option, but much easier if you have very short hair (applying to most guys ^^). most girls probably won't be able to skip right to this, b/c the chemical coating/deposits on longer hair will require removal by soap. I don't think it would be possible for water alone to get rid of it. That said, I do know a girl who says that she has never used a washcloth to scrub her skin or soap to wash it. She says she takes very long, very steamy showers instead. While yeah, I suppose that is also an option, using some soap seems preferable to that b/c it wastes less water and heat. On the other hand, though, this girl also does use commercial shampoos so..... yeah. Not a great example I guess. But water alone (especially the amazingly clean quality of modern filtered drinking water) does do a decent job.
non-waxy hair drying faster: yup, it's amazing, isn't it? Even when tacky, I saw that soap-washed hair dried a bit quicker. When my hair began to lose its waxy coating, my hair began to dry with record speed. I went from waiting an hour for soppy wet hair with 'slip' to dry, to waiting 5-7 minutes for the last of the beaded water droplets to 'fall' off towel-patted hair!
That was a turning point for me: I realized that the waxy gross feeling of my hair hadn't been mostly b/c of 'oiliness' of a resentful head of hair but was actually the dirty-sin slick residue coating from commercial products (that is what breaks the surface tension of water, so that it cannot easily evaporate from hair). I was pretty horrified at HOW LONG that coating had resisted removal and how unnatural that coating had to have been that when it was gone, my scalp oil composition and rate of production completely changed, my hair became much softer and individually felt much less coarse, and the hair roots became way tougher and healthier overall.
cocoa & shea butter: Wow, yes, these are very moisturizing plant butters. I think they actually might be a tad greasy for use on skin, but it's also true that soap-washed skin is also more resilient and healthy, so it actually might not overwhelm and cause acne (but, it really is kinda heavy). If your skin doesn't really have dryness problems and it's more for scar fading -- I know people use Vitamin E oil for fading scars as well, and there really is a lot of Vitamin E found naturally in olive oil soaps. So perhaps you can put off using the plant butters for a little while to see if just using the soaps (while protecting from UV-rays) will help fade the scars/hyperpigmentation. For me, I'm happy to say that the discoloring on my cheek went from very dark red to a barely noticeable soft pink color; it's now almost invisible under a light application of foundation.
I used to work in a beauty shop catering to black women's hair and skin needs, so I am familiar with how delicate their hair is, requiring lots of protecting oils and washing restricted to once a week. Other Soompiers and I myself have found that after the buiildup is gone, our (straight? asian?) hair is quite well moisturized shaft-to-ends from washing with a Soap. Since your new hair growth is curly (which always requires more moisture than straight hair) and you do have damage from straightening treatment, I think using a little shea or cocoa butter for moisture should be fine. Since it's a natural plant oil and not a synthesized 'cone'-containing treatment, it should wash out well with soap too, so you shouldn't have to worry about buildup.
darae: ah! wow that is great!! glad to see that the waxiness is getting better. ooh but im curious, where do you live that you have access to a korean-style spa? Australia? New York?...Korea? lol... I know there are places in Cali (LA) that do, but here in the Midwest.... well, I heard that one is under construction next to the Chicagoland H-Mart, but other than that they don't exist lol.
Something one of my friends does is to relax in the sauna after workouts at his gym. Then when he heads out to shower, his skin is hydrated/steamed/sweaty enough where he can scrub down easily with an "italy-towel" to remove all the ddae. I admit, his skin is sometimes way softer than mine!
fizzl3:
I'm sorry to hear that. Where do you live? Even though Olivia Care doesn't ship overseas, maybe you can get a soap from another Soompier. If you're willing to use a soap that's not Olivia Care, there are a lot of lovely Marseilles and Castile soaps made in France, Italy, and Spain, etc, which will probably be much easier to order online. From recent posts, other readers are using soaps of different brands after carefully checking the ingredients. So this might be a good option, too...
*Thank you everyone for your interest and open-mindedness. It's so heartening to see that other young people DO care about using natural products that care for our bodies, and are able to stop using the products we're used to once we learn how harmful they are. I really think ours is an extraordinary generation and there will be some remarkable changes underfoot in the next 20 years! Let's remember the power we individuals do have to change the world, step by step, day by day, shower by, um, shower ^^*
hair falling out more/ white scalp scum/ oil feeling of hair: If switching to soap coincides with spacing hair washings further apart, then yes, it will seem like you're losing more hair than before. But actually, you're probably losing less. Think of how much hair you'd lose in the drain using regular shampoo/conditioner. Then consider how many days a week you were washing your hair. Also how much you lose brushing your hair out every day vs detangling with a comb. At the beginning of using soap (back when all of my hair was quite waxy, which for me lasted quite a long time) I was still losing lots of hair each time I washed it. After the waxiness subsided, and after the level of "scalp scum" basically disappeared, I found I lost considerably fewer hairs than before, even though I wash my hair less frequently (twice a week). My hair seems much stronger now and resists being pulled out, even when I'm combing through it somewhat impatiently.
My theory is that as the skin of the scalp heals, it no longer outputs the extremely high level of sebum (skin's natural, slightly waxy oils) which the scalp developed as protection against harsh shampoo agents. Scalp recovery also seems to take much longer than body and even facial skin, which makes sense considering how many years of shampoo abuse the typical scalp has gone through. That whitish scalp scum does seem like a mix of dead skin cells, but with a very high concentration of sebum. I'm pretty sure everyone who's switched to soap from shampoo has experienced at least a little of this. For the record, after my scalp (and hair!) finished detoxing, the scalp scum/sebum is something I don't deal with at all.
Why? This is also my reasoning: that the composition/type of oils the scalp produces actually changes after the switch to soap/detox completion. Instead of being very waxy and heavy, it seems like the scalp's oils are more liquid and mild, providing lubrication for the hair instead of serving as a thick defensive layer to protect the scalp's delicate, easily irritated skin. In response to HSR, I'm guessing that the different 'oil' feeling coating the hair is progressive stage, and will change as you continue to shun shampoo in favor of water, and soap.
washing only with water: this seems like a very do-able option, but much easier if you have very short hair (applying to most guys ^^). most girls probably won't be able to skip right to this, b/c the chemical coating/deposits on longer hair will require removal by soap. I don't think it would be possible for water alone to get rid of it. That said, I do know a girl who says that she has never used a washcloth to scrub her skin or soap to wash it. She says she takes very long, very steamy showers instead. While yeah, I suppose that is also an option, using some soap seems preferable to that b/c it wastes less water and heat. On the other hand, though, this girl also does use commercial shampoos so..... yeah. Not a great example I guess. But water alone (especially the amazingly clean quality of modern filtered drinking water) does do a decent job.
non-waxy hair drying faster: yup, it's amazing, isn't it? Even when tacky, I saw that soap-washed hair dried a bit quicker. When my hair began to lose its waxy coating, my hair began to dry with record speed. I went from waiting an hour for soppy wet hair with 'slip' to dry, to waiting 5-7 minutes for the last of the beaded water droplets to 'fall' off towel-patted hair!
That was a turning point for me: I realized that the waxy gross feeling of my hair hadn't been mostly b/c of 'oiliness' of a resentful head of hair but was actually the dirty-sin slick residue coating from commercial products (that is what breaks the surface tension of water, so that it cannot easily evaporate from hair). I was pretty horrified at HOW LONG that coating had resisted removal and how unnatural that coating had to have been that when it was gone, my scalp oil composition and rate of production completely changed, my hair became much softer and individually felt much less coarse, and the hair roots became way tougher and healthier overall.
cocoa & shea butter: Wow, yes, these are very moisturizing plant butters. I think they actually might be a tad greasy for use on skin, but it's also true that soap-washed skin is also more resilient and healthy, so it actually might not overwhelm and cause acne (but, it really is kinda heavy). If your skin doesn't really have dryness problems and it's more for scar fading -- I know people use Vitamin E oil for fading scars as well, and there really is a lot of Vitamin E found naturally in olive oil soaps. So perhaps you can put off using the plant butters for a little while to see if just using the soaps (while protecting from UV-rays) will help fade the scars/hyperpigmentation. For me, I'm happy to say that the discoloring on my cheek went from very dark red to a barely noticeable soft pink color; it's now almost invisible under a light application of foundation.
I used to work in a beauty shop catering to black women's hair and skin needs, so I am familiar with how delicate their hair is, requiring lots of protecting oils and washing restricted to once a week. Other Soompiers and I myself have found that after the buiildup is gone, our (straight? asian?) hair is quite well moisturized shaft-to-ends from washing with a Soap. Since your new hair growth is curly (which always requires more moisture than straight hair) and you do have damage from straightening treatment, I think using a little shea or cocoa butter for moisture should be fine. Since it's a natural plant oil and not a synthesized 'cone'-containing treatment, it should wash out well with soap too, so you shouldn't have to worry about buildup.
darae: ah! wow that is great!! glad to see that the waxiness is getting better.
ooh but im curious, where do you live that you have access to a korean-style spa? Australia? New York?...Korea? lol... I know there are places in Cali (LA) that do, but here in the Midwest.... well, I heard that one is under construction next to the Chicagoland H-Mart, but other than that they don't exist lol. Something one of my friends does is to relax in the sauna after workouts at his gym. Then when he heads out to shower, his skin is hydrated/steamed/sweaty enough where he can scrub down easily with an "italy-towel" to remove all the ddae. I admit, his skin is sometimes way softer than mine!
fizzl3:
I'm sorry to hear that. Where do you live? Even though Olivia Care doesn't ship overseas, maybe you can get a soap from another Soompier. If you're willing to use a soap that's not Olivia Care, there are a lot of lovely Marseilles and Castile soaps made in France, Italy, and Spain, etc, which will probably be much easier to order online. From recent posts, other readers are using soaps of different brands after carefully checking the ingredients. So this might be a good option, too...*Thank you everyone for your interest and open-mindedness. It's so heartening to see that other young people DO care about using natural products that care for our bodies, and are able to stop using the products we're used to once we learn how harmful they are. I really think ours is an extraordinary generation and there will be some remarkable changes underfoot in the next 20 years! Let's remember the power we individuals do have to change the world, step by step, day by day, shower by, um, shower ^^*
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 11:04 AM
QUOTE (fizzl3 @ Jan 23 2009, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*cries* I was going to order the Olivia care soap on their website and it only ships to U.S and Canada ><"
A good alternative is Miessence Shampoo. Their toothpastes are great too. Although it's not soap it has no harmful chemicals.
I realized it was made in Australia yesterday when I was showering. lol.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 12:45 PM
Darn I just bought new shampoo and conditioner lols but my dad has been always using soap instead of shampoo and conditioner for years now I should too XD
lols but my dad has been always using soap instead of shampoo and conditioner for years now I should too XD
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:22 PM
This was pretty interesting. Quite inspirational too. Now only if I can get my hands on some of that soap...
For those people who aren't a big fan of bar soaps, the link below shows you how to turn it into liquid soap. It doesn't require any added ingredients besides water, so you're pretty safe. I've never tried this out before, so I'm not sure whether or not the effect of the soap would wear off. I assume not, though, haha. Like you, when I compare the past to the modern times, I always wonder about their hygiene and such. Did the word "acne" even exist back then? My skin is quite oily, so two years ago, I tried a crazy amount of cleansers to calm it. It made my skin squeaky dry for about 15 minutes. Once that time was up, it was even worse than before.
Anywho, this was an eye-opener. I'll be sure to spread this around.
The link to the how-to: http://www.casasugar.com/1734577
Edit: I found another great site to making liquid soap. It has more information than the previous link. You can add your own ingredients to make all-natural liquid soap. Great, huh?
http://greenliving.suite101.com/article.cf...ake_liquid_soap
For those people who aren't a big fan of bar soaps, the link below shows you how to turn it into liquid soap. It doesn't require any added ingredients besides water, so you're pretty safe. I've never tried this out before, so I'm not sure whether or not the effect of the soap would wear off. I assume not, though, haha. Like you, when I compare the past to the modern times, I always wonder about their hygiene and such. Did the word "acne" even exist back then? My skin is quite oily, so two years ago, I tried a crazy amount of cleansers to calm it. It made my skin squeaky dry for about 15 minutes. Once that time was up, it was even worse than before.
Anywho, this was an eye-opener. I'll be sure to spread this around.
The link to the how-to: http://www.casasugar.com/1734577
Edit: I found another great site to making liquid soap. It has more information than the previous link. You can add your own ingredients to make all-natural liquid soap. Great, huh?
http://greenliving.suite101.com/article.cf...ake_liquid_soap
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 04:52 PM
Hi, I thought I'd contribute my postive experiences so far..
I just bought 2 pure castile soaps today, lavender and peppermint.
As soon as I got home I washed my face with the lavender soap.
I was pleasantly surprised, my face felt very clean afterward. and my lips became softer after a bit (not sure if thats due to the soap).
I used toner and a light moisturizer afterward, because my skin is always so dry and flaky in the winter (even with exfoliation). but after time I will see how my skin does with just the soap.
As for brushing my teeth, I was also surprised. The soap lathered so well that it felt exactly like I was using toothpaste, just with a flavor of lavender which was kinda strange but it was bearable. My teeth were clean and no bad breath, it probably smelled of flowers though lol.
I also took a shower today using only the soap. I washed my hair twice, and tried to lather it as best I could. It wasn't easy but honestly, I can't complain. You did say it would feel stiff and hard to control. Even now as its drying it feels so weird but it honestly LOOKS clean and it really doesn't look very bad; only if you touched it, it wont be that soft. But this isn't so bad considering it's going to get a whole lot better later on.
All in all, my initial experiences were better than I expected. and i'm going to continue doing this.
edit: I've been studying chemistry and biology in my university too. My bio-anatomy prof once mentioned there is really no need for all those "antibacterial" handsoaps for washing your hands. in fact a little warm water is enough or just a plain, high quality soap is better. I was intrigued by this, but for some reason, I never really followed through in reasearching about it.
Therefore, seeing this thread, it didn't shock or surprise me one bit. We are so used to using those commercial cleansers and wanting to feel safe with those "antibacterial" liquid soaps that we don't want to give other options a try. This thread made a WHOLE LOT of sense to me, thanks
I just bought 2 pure castile soaps today, lavender and peppermint.
As soon as I got home I washed my face with the lavender soap.
I was pleasantly surprised, my face felt very clean afterward. and my lips became softer after a bit (not sure if thats due to the soap).
I used toner and a light moisturizer afterward, because my skin is always so dry and flaky in the winter (even with exfoliation). but after time I will see how my skin does with just the soap.
As for brushing my teeth, I was also surprised. The soap lathered so well that it felt exactly like I was using toothpaste, just with a flavor of lavender which was kinda strange but it was bearable. My teeth were clean and no bad breath, it probably smelled of flowers though lol.
I also took a shower today using only the soap. I washed my hair twice, and tried to lather it as best I could. It wasn't easy but honestly, I can't complain. You did say it would feel stiff and hard to control. Even now as its drying it feels so weird but it honestly LOOKS clean and it really doesn't look very bad; only if you touched it, it wont be that soft. But this isn't so bad considering it's going to get a whole lot better later on.
All in all, my initial experiences were better than I expected. and i'm going to continue doing this.
edit: I've been studying chemistry and biology in my university too. My bio-anatomy prof once mentioned there is really no need for all those "antibacterial" handsoaps for washing your hands. in fact a little warm water is enough or just a plain, high quality soap is better. I was intrigued by this, but for some reason, I never really followed through in reasearching about it.
Therefore, seeing this thread, it didn't shock or surprise me one bit. We are so used to using those commercial cleansers and wanting to feel safe with those "antibacterial" liquid soaps that we don't want to give other options a try. This thread made a WHOLE LOT of sense to me, thanks
