and yes i live in toronto
so thats good ouuu they sell some in bulk barn as well ?
ill go check it out sometime ;3 thank you !just wondering from the soapworks which soap do you guys recommend especially for the oily skin ?
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^ thanks so much for the responses ! ^o^ !
and yes i live in toronto so thats good
ouuu they sell some in bulk barn as well ? ill go check it out sometime ;3 thank you !
just wondering from the soapworks which soap do you guys recommend especially for the oily skin ?
and yes i live in toronto
so thats good ouuu they sell some in bulk barn as well ?
ill go check it out sometime ;3 thank you !just wondering from the soapworks which soap do you guys recommend especially for the oily skin ?
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How my hair turned out. This was taken on the day my hair was in a bun, so it's wavy. But usually when my hair is down, my hair is slightly wavy but not this curly. My hair used to be oily and flat, it's better now. This was 1 day of not washing.
Ok, I don't know why it's greenish in my second picture, but it's not a big difference.
Ok, I don't know why it's greenish in my second picture, but it's not a big difference.
My hair looks the same-soft, shiny, and really pretty- when I don't wash it, but arghhh...the dandruff!
btw, I wash my hair every other day.
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I can't believe I'm getting rid of all teh products I've been using but this method is really convenient and works amazingly well. I take water only showers every other day now (after a month of being on this method) and my hair and skin feel so much better.. like they can BREATHE again! Surprisingly, my hair only took about 1 1/2 weeks to rid itself of all the many years of build up! I could only find Whole Food's brand organic soap in my immediate area but it works amazing and I am so glad to take the risk and try it. Now it's $6 for every 2-3 months, but with much better and brighter skin and healthier hair!
I still can't commit to teeth though.. my soap is lavender and it smells a bit too weird to put in my mouth (granted I gave it a try..).
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no its not mandatory to wash your hair with cold water, but it would be better because hot water would cause your pores to open up more, letting more hair fall out.
It doesn't have to be cold water, lukewarm water is fine too, as long as its not HOT water.
It doesn't have to be cold water, lukewarm water is fine too, as long as its not HOT water.
did you make up this logic yourself?
how ridiculous, pores don't open nor close
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accidental double post, soompi is lagging.
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^(To the poster of the quote) Washing with cold water is just actually to make the cuticles of your hair lie flat. This will make your hair smoother, sleeker and shinier. An acidic rinse will do the same (more, actually -- I've always washed my hair with cool to cold water and adding ACV to a cup of water helps a lot).
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pores may not open or close, but they definitely can expand and contract. most people will find that applying water water and steam to their skin will soften and make it more porous - which is exactly what it sounds like. the skin's barriers are somewhat weakened, due both to more moisture in the skin (from water) and heat which will 'open up' (expand) skin pores.
that's why whatever you do to your skin (applying gunk, scrubbing) is more ''effective'' after soaking/steaming it first.
sometimes (often) this just means you're subjecting your skin to more dangerous, harsher conditions.
also, washing your body/hair with hot shower water is bad for a lot of reasons.
it tends to waste a lot of water, a lot of heat energy, dehydrates the skin, and ruffles the layers of hair cuticle - which makes it more likely to feel rough and look dull. if on top of that, you're blazing your delicate hair/scalp with conventional chemical-laced products, hair will get more rough and coarse-feeling and therefore ironically 'needs' more conditioner/treatments, while the real culprit is that the 'cones are basically gluing the hair cuticles up instead of allowing them to lie flat.
I suspect that's the real reason why there's a difference b/t the 'fine, silky hair' of young kids versus adults who've been frying their skin/scalp with chemicals for years. After I switched to soap, it wasn't until the buildup was all gone that my hair felt very silky and 'finer' than it had in years. (as in, 10 or more years 7th grade?).
dandruff
for those who are having problems with dandruff, ask yourself if these apply:
1. I have been using soap to wash my body, face, AND hair (and used absolutely no 'conventional' hair products) for at least 2 weeks.
2. the flakes are present immediately after washing hair, and my scalp feels itchy.
3. the flakes are present a day or two after I wash my hair, and are tons of tiny, white flecks everywhere.
4. the flakes are large, greasy chunks (snowflake-size) and they're noticeable on my clothing and five feet away.
if #1 doesn't apply, then I can't answer subsequent questions. everything below pertains to fulfilling #1 first.
if #2 applies, you're not putting in enough elbow grease scrubbing your scalp!!!! that's a buildup of skin flakes/sebum. wash again. you need to be using fingertips to really massage every inch of scalp.
if #3 applies, your hair-washing technique may or may not need work. more likely, you're experiencing a combination of natural skin flaking and there's dust in your hair. aka: gotta comb it. you'll need to comb it well once in a while (some people every day, some people can get away with less often) with a high-quality wood or preferably carved plastic (like Mason Pearson) comb. and yes, the comb will accumulate some dust and possibly sebum. it'll take some time, but by paying attention to your skin's needs and washing technique (including how often you wash, how well, with soap or water) eventually all you'll see in your comb should be dust.
if #4 applies, give soap washing more time, and revisit your scalp-washing technique. while i'm not saying it's impossible to have real dandruff while washing hair with soap, thus far I'm pretty convinced that given enough time, really using ONLY a high-quality olive oil soap instead of any conventional shampoos, conditioners, other hair treatments, and nasty lotions will help most people will what they think are dandruff issues.
*changes in my own routine*
I've stopped taking hot baths/scrubbing with green itely towels. my skin and hair is normalized enough where washing with soap once a week, water rest of the time is enough. this might also have be due to the weather, which is warming up, or my diet, from which i've cut out animal meat and processed junk. it'll be awhile before i go 'vegan', since i still eat seafood and eggs, but i'm getting a lot better at cooking vegetables/ whole unprocessed grains.
*note about Mason Pearson brushes/combs*
I realize that these will be expensive products for most people. I have to admit I died a little inside when I saw the total bill, but figured it's worth foregoing a pair of cute shoes and eating out once or twice. and it is!
on a regular basis - I use the C2 dressing comb all the time. for freshly washed, fully drip-dried hair, I use it to gently detangle. I use it to beautify/detangle my hair daily, and the comb has the added benefit of gently clearing hair of any dust accumulation. (it'll be much more noticeable now, when naturally negatively-charged hair is not coated with conditioner particles, etc.) And finally, I use the comb all the time for styling purposes. I haven't done rag curls in a while, but I imagine the comb will also be a big help in making tiny, perfectly taut sections of hair to roll up before tyeing and sleeping.
for the brush though - this brush will make it way easier to wash hair less often with soap. brushing the hair in the recommended method really helps keep hair and scalp cleaner. sebum, which otherwise sits on the scalp and might make the roots look oily, is instead distributed beautifully all over hair, which conditions it naturally, makes it healthier and stronger with great shine. it also helps protect the delicate hair strands from being damaged. and excess oils/scalp flakes are trapped by the brush, which does need to be dry cleaned and specially washed with soapy water using the cleaning brush. The brush might look kind of icky after being used well (hair tangled in it, bristles whitened/grayed by sebum/ scalp debris) but after washing gently and carefully, with very little soap (a few turns of the soap in a shallow dish of water) it will look brand-new and shiny again.
After using the Mason Pearson brush and comb for two months, my hair definitely looks fuller, lustrous, and more luxurious. basically, the brush, and especially using a high-quality comb instead of a horrid cheap one, actively cares for the hair. hair that is not being pulled out mercilessly by evil little balls or being snagged on sharp protruding seams. on top of being washed gently and effectively with soap, but being nourished with natural scalp oils.
haters can say what they want, but people who've used the products know there is real, glowing beauty to be had from treating your body right.
that's why whatever you do to your skin (applying gunk, scrubbing) is more ''effective'' after soaking/steaming it first.
sometimes (often) this just means you're subjecting your skin to more dangerous, harsher conditions.
also, washing your body/hair with hot shower water is bad for a lot of reasons.
it tends to waste a lot of water, a lot of heat energy, dehydrates the skin, and ruffles the layers of hair cuticle - which makes it more likely to feel rough and look dull. if on top of that, you're blazing your delicate hair/scalp with conventional chemical-laced products, hair will get more rough and coarse-feeling and therefore ironically 'needs' more conditioner/treatments, while the real culprit is that the 'cones are basically gluing the hair cuticles up instead of allowing them to lie flat.
I suspect that's the real reason why there's a difference b/t the 'fine, silky hair' of young kids versus adults who've been frying their skin/scalp with chemicals for years. After I switched to soap, it wasn't until the buildup was all gone that my hair felt very silky and 'finer' than it had in years. (as in, 10 or more years 7th grade?).
dandruff
for those who are having problems with dandruff, ask yourself if these apply:
1. I have been using soap to wash my body, face, AND hair (and used absolutely no 'conventional' hair products) for at least 2 weeks.
2. the flakes are present immediately after washing hair, and my scalp feels itchy.
3. the flakes are present a day or two after I wash my hair, and are tons of tiny, white flecks everywhere.
4. the flakes are large, greasy chunks (snowflake-size) and they're noticeable on my clothing and five feet away.
if #1 doesn't apply, then I can't answer subsequent questions. everything below pertains to fulfilling #1 first.
if #2 applies, you're not putting in enough elbow grease scrubbing your scalp!!!! that's a buildup of skin flakes/sebum. wash again. you need to be using fingertips to really massage every inch of scalp.
if #3 applies, your hair-washing technique may or may not need work. more likely, you're experiencing a combination of natural skin flaking and there's dust in your hair. aka: gotta comb it. you'll need to comb it well once in a while (some people every day, some people can get away with less often) with a high-quality wood or preferably carved plastic (like Mason Pearson) comb. and yes, the comb will accumulate some dust and possibly sebum. it'll take some time, but by paying attention to your skin's needs and washing technique (including how often you wash, how well, with soap or water) eventually all you'll see in your comb should be dust.
if #4 applies, give soap washing more time, and revisit your scalp-washing technique. while i'm not saying it's impossible to have real dandruff while washing hair with soap, thus far I'm pretty convinced that given enough time, really using ONLY a high-quality olive oil soap instead of any conventional shampoos, conditioners, other hair treatments, and nasty lotions will help most people will what they think are dandruff issues.
*changes in my own routine*
I've stopped taking hot baths/scrubbing with green itely towels. my skin and hair is normalized enough where washing with soap once a week, water rest of the time is enough. this might also have be due to the weather, which is warming up, or my diet, from which i've cut out animal meat and processed junk. it'll be awhile before i go 'vegan', since i still eat seafood and eggs, but i'm getting a lot better at cooking vegetables/ whole unprocessed grains.
*note about Mason Pearson brushes/combs*
I realize that these will be expensive products for most people. I have to admit I died a little inside when I saw the total bill, but figured it's worth foregoing a pair of cute shoes and eating out once or twice. and it is!
on a regular basis - I use the C2 dressing comb all the time. for freshly washed, fully drip-dried hair, I use it to gently detangle. I use it to beautify/detangle my hair daily, and the comb has the added benefit of gently clearing hair of any dust accumulation. (it'll be much more noticeable now, when naturally negatively-charged hair is not coated with conditioner particles, etc.) And finally, I use the comb all the time for styling purposes. I haven't done rag curls in a while, but I imagine the comb will also be a big help in making tiny, perfectly taut sections of hair to roll up before tyeing and sleeping.
for the brush though - this brush will make it way easier to wash hair less often with soap. brushing the hair in the recommended method really helps keep hair and scalp cleaner. sebum, which otherwise sits on the scalp and might make the roots look oily, is instead distributed beautifully all over hair, which conditions it naturally, makes it healthier and stronger with great shine. it also helps protect the delicate hair strands from being damaged. and excess oils/scalp flakes are trapped by the brush, which does need to be dry cleaned and specially washed with soapy water using the cleaning brush. The brush might look kind of icky after being used well (hair tangled in it, bristles whitened/grayed by sebum/ scalp debris) but after washing gently and carefully, with very little soap (a few turns of the soap in a shallow dish of water) it will look brand-new and shiny again.
After using the Mason Pearson brush and comb for two months, my hair definitely looks fuller, lustrous, and more luxurious. basically, the brush, and especially using a high-quality comb instead of a horrid cheap one, actively cares for the hair. hair that is not being pulled out mercilessly by evil little balls or being snagged on sharp protruding seams. on top of being washed gently and effectively with soap, but being nourished with natural scalp oils.
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well, you said that medication for acne can thin out skin, and i eczema on my face (like...everywhere except my forehead and chin) and i was thinking about stopping my medication since it doesnt seem to help at all (ive had this for 2 years) and i do this regimen. do you think it will help me get rid of the eczema?
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^ yep , i think it will.. though i have some eczema too, and i find that soap makes it even worse. i only use water every once in a while on my face, and its calmed down alot, infact no one can tell i have eczema anymore.
well heres an update on my regimen
- do nothing for my face, cept spashes of water every now and then ( which on its own, is already drying)
- wash body with water, and soap sometimes...
- wash hair with water and a few tablespoons of baking soda ( once a week )
-my hair gets oily about the last 2 days of the week. so day 1-5 not greasy
=) this has worked great for me.no more throwing money in the garbage.
well heres an update on my regimen
- do nothing for my face, cept spashes of water every now and then ( which on its own, is already drying)
- wash body with water, and soap sometimes...
- wash hair with water and a few tablespoons of baking soda ( once a week )
-my hair gets oily about the last 2 days of the week. so day 1-5 not greasy
=) this has worked great for me.no more throwing money in the garbage.
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Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:09 PM
QUOTE (Maybelline Li @ Apr 11 2009, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
did you make up this logic yourself?
how ridiculous, pores don't open nor close
how ridiculous, pores don't open nor close
QUOTE (eunbit @ Apr 12 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
pores may not open or close, but they definitely can expand and contract. most people will find that applying water water and steam to their skin will soften and make it more porous - which is exactly what it sounds like. the skin's barriers are somewhat weakened, due both to more moisture in the skin (from water) and heat which will 'open up' (expand) skin pores.
Sorry Maybelline Li if I didn't put it in the exact right words. What eunbit posted is what I meant.
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^ yep , i think it will.. though i have some eczema too, and i find that soap makes it even worse. i only use water every once in a while on my face, and its calmed down alot, infact no one can tell i have eczema anymore.
well heres an update on my regimen
- do nothing for my face, cept spashes of water every now and then ( which on its own, is already drying)
- wash body with water, and soap sometimes...
- wash hair with water and a few tablespoons of baking soda ( once a week )
-my hair gets oily about the last 2 days of the week. so day 1-5 not greasy
=) this has worked great for me.no more throwing money in the garbage.
well heres an update on my regimen
- do nothing for my face, cept spashes of water every now and then ( which on its own, is already drying)
- wash body with water, and soap sometimes...
- wash hair with water and a few tablespoons of baking soda ( once a week )
-my hair gets oily about the last 2 days of the week. so day 1-5 not greasy
=) this has worked great for me.no more throwing money in the garbage.
mm...i have no intention of sounding rude, but when you say, "yep i think it will" you mean, it will help me rid of my eczema.
but then you say "i find that soap makes it even worse" sooooo....can you clarify please?
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are olivia care soap and bath soap different? the one i got has glycerin listed, so i don't think that it's good... should i return the soap I got?
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mm...i have no intention of sounding rude, but when you say, "yep i think it will" you mean, it will help me rid of my eczema.
but then you say "i find that soap makes it even worse" sooooo....can you clarify please?
but then you say "i find that soap makes it even worse" sooooo....can you clarify please?
i say it will, or might... i dont know.. every case is different. i said soap makes it worse, because i really think washing
eczema skin is risky because of how sensitive it can be.
what i meant is that stoping acne meds will help your skin ALOT . since they are super drying and irritating.
but i dont wanna bet the soap thing works, because i myself didnt cure my eczema with soap, i only use water
and that has worked very well.
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QUOTE (flowoftime @ Apr 13 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i say it will, or might... i dont know.. every case is different. i said soap makes it worse, because i really think washing
eczema skin is risky because of how sensitive it can be.
what i meant is that stoping acne meds will help your skin ALOT . since they are super drying and irritating.
but i dont wanna bet the soap thing works, because i myself didnt cure my eczema with soap, i only use water
and that has worked very well.
eczema skin is risky because of how sensitive it can be.
what i meant is that stoping acne meds will help your skin ALOT . since they are super drying and irritating.
but i dont wanna bet the soap thing works, because i myself didnt cure my eczema with soap, i only use water
and that has worked very well.
all right!
thank you
oh, and eunbit!
ummm, i tried washing my hair with olivia care (it has glycerin in it...should i stop, marshalls only had olivia care bars w/ glycerin) and my hair feels greasy, dulled out my hair A LOT (i have black hair) and my friends thought it was blue, grey, or i threw flour in it.
plus, it tangles so easily its not even funny! and my hair texture is really coarse and dry feeling...
at first, i thought it was still greasy after 3 elongated massaging, so i washed it two more times until i could barely take my hands out of my hair (it felt so tacky!!) but it still had that stickyness, barbie- like texture.
is it because of the glycerin, brand, or i haven't gotten used to it?
(oh! i used for only 1 day... its been 2 days after the wash)
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i think all olivia care soaps have a bit of glycerin in them
youve only washed your hair once, which is why your not getting the 'full effect'
if you read the other entries she posted, youll see that for the first couple of weeksn your hair will be CRAZY (waxy, tangled mess!)
its been about 3~4 weeks for me, and my hair is starting to be less rough
dont expect any good result within 1~2 weeks ^^;;
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youve only washed your hair once, which is why your not getting the 'full effect'
if you read the other entries she posted, youll see that for the first couple of weeksn your hair will be CRAZY (waxy, tangled mess!)
its been about 3~4 weeks for me, and my hair is starting to be less rough
dont expect any good result within 1~2 weeks ^^;;
oh ya and can anyone tell me if its bad to wear makeup (like eyeshaodw) w/ titanium dixoide?
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Thank you for the using the soap and water method of getting a better body/hair care.
Anyhow, can't you do that with eating correctly as well?
Anyhow, can't you do that with eating correctly as well?
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all right!
thank you
oh, and eunbit!
ummm, i tried washing my hair with olivia care (it has glycerin in it...should i stop, marshalls only had olivia care bars w/ glycerin) and my hair feels greasy, dulled out my hair A LOT (i have black hair) and my friends thought it was blue, grey, or i threw flour in it.
plus, it tangles so easily its not even funny! and my hair texture is really coarse and dry feeling...
at first, i thought it was still greasy after 3 elongated massaging, so i washed it two more times until i could barely take my hands out of my hair (it felt so tacky!!) but it still had that stickyness, barbie- like texture.
is it because of the glycerin, brand, or i haven't gotten used to it?
(oh! i used for only 1 day... its been 2 days after the wash)
thank you
oh, and eunbit!
ummm, i tried washing my hair with olivia care (it has glycerin in it...should i stop, marshalls only had olivia care bars w/ glycerin) and my hair feels greasy, dulled out my hair A LOT (i have black hair) and my friends thought it was blue, grey, or i threw flour in it.
plus, it tangles so easily its not even funny! and my hair texture is really coarse and dry feeling...
at first, i thought it was still greasy after 3 elongated massaging, so i washed it two more times until i could barely take my hands out of my hair (it felt so tacky!!) but it still had that stickyness, barbie- like texture.
is it because of the glycerin, brand, or i haven't gotten used to it?
(oh! i used for only 1 day... its been 2 days after the wash)
another person had the problem with her hair, and according to another poster, its soap scum so you just have to rinse your hair more carefully to get it all off.
And you won't get instant results right away! you're just going through the detox stage
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