[Deluge]

I was wondering if using the Kiss My Face Olive Oil Bar Soap was a good alternative. It only has 3 ingredients: Saponified Olive Oil, Water, Sodium Chloride. I think I might get this one to wash my face with since the other facial cleansers have so many ingredients, esp including SLS!!! D;

[plumerias]

PRE SOAP
(x) I showered in a regular time pattern [every morning, every night, exactly every 1.5 days, etc]
(x) I used to regularly wash my hair every day.
(x) I used hair styling products besides shampoo and conditioner regularly (MORE THAN 2X A YR] [salon/oil treatments, hair serums/masks].
( ) I've had these chemical procedures on my hair: any type of straightening or curling perm, color treatment, highlights

( ) I used to use a towel to briskly dry my hair after washing
(x) I used to use a towel to gently pat dry my hair after washing
( ) I used to use a blowdryer regularly to dry my hair
( ) I usually brushed wet hair carelessly with a brush
( ) I usually combed/detangled wet hair carelessly with a comb
( ) I usually carefully brushed wet hair while holding each lock as I brushed/untangled it
(x) I usually carefully detangled wet hair with a comb


POST SOAP
(~) I use soap in place of shampoo
( ) I no longer use conditioner
(x) I use soap instead of toothpaste
(x) I use nothing but soap to wash my body
(x) I use nothing but soap to wash my face
(x) I wash only when I feel my body needs washing
(x) I wash my hair by how it feels, not by time periods
( ) I still wash my hair every day
( ) I wash my hair every other day with soap
( ) I wash my hair once every three days with soap
( ) I wash my hair with only water at least once a week INSTEAD of soap
(x) I use plant oils on my hair [olive, camellia, etc]
(x) I no longer use commercially manufactured anything labeled as 'shampoo' 'conditioner' 'body wash' 'beauty bar' 'acne wash' or any type of lotion

(x) I always comb hair while it's wet
( ) I always brush hair while it's wet
( ) I always hold the lock of wet hair I'm brushing/combing with the other hand so I don't pull on the roots
( ) I don't bother with holding wet hair when in place
( ) I never comb wet hair
( ) I never brush wet hair
( ) I wait until hair is completely dry before combing or brushing it

(x) I towel PAT hair dry gently
( ) I vigorously towel dry hair
( ) I towel-dry it then blow dry it
( ) I completely drip dry hair

PRE-SOAP vs POST SOAP
(x) my hair is less oily
(x) my hair has less dandruff (if dandruff was an issue before)
(x) my hair is finer/sleeker-feeling now
(x) my hair is less pouffy
(x) my hair falls out less than before, while washing it
( ) my hair falls out same/more than before, while washing it
( ) my hair falls out less than before, when I comb it it completely dry
( ) my hair falls out more than before, when I comb it damp/wet

( ) I feel hair being yanked out when I brush/comb it
( ) I feel like my hair is thinning
( ) I believe I'm losing more than 80 hairs every day since switching to soap
(x) I believe I'm losing around 30 hairs a day since switching to soap
(x) I eat meat every day
( ) I eat meat on a regular basis
( ) I hardly ever eat meat
( ) I never eat meat

( ) I've had problems from anemia before or iron deficiencies
( ) I have very heavy/prolonged menstrual periods
( ) I have had severe acne problems
( ) I have had eczema or psoriasis
( ) I am a young teen (11-14)
(x) I am a mid-teen (15-19)
( ) I am a young adult (20-25)
( ) I am an adult (25-35)
( ) My area has soft water
( ) My area has hard water
(x) I'm not sure of the water hardness in my area

(*Please mark an X for EVERYTHING that applies)



Please fill these out with bolded text:
I use (Kinda forgot; it was a brand found in whole foods) brand soap
I have used this soap for (3-4) months
I have these specific problems/concerns with soap:
Made my hair waxy and dry. I no longer use soap for my hair because of this, I just scrub well with my natural conditioner and vinegar rinse once in a while if I start getting flaky/oily. Conditioner I use is with natural oils (trader joe's brand) and no synthetic chemicals except I think it contains parabens, but nothings perfect I guess. For how cheap it is, I can't find anything else that compares. I strongly recommend the vinegar rinse for people with dandruff and oil-y hair; it makes your hair feel SO clean and shiny.
I eat at least 5 servings of protein per day.
I haven't use "shampoo" or chemical conditioner for 3 years (there may have been a month where I tried it again but it was a horrible experience and I stopped )

I use soap for the rest of my body, and once in a while for my face. I've always had EXTREMELY thick curly hair (not just wavy- I mean like actual ringlets) so I have to use some sort of gel to hold and I cannot comb when dry, I never lose that much hair. I use 100% aloe vera gel as the hold and sometimes a bit of olive oil if it needs some.

[♥P U R E D O L L]

i was just wondering ive been using this regimen for quite some time but im breaking out D: D:
before my skin didnt have pimples although my skin was oily <.< but now i have pimples !
is this normal ? and when will it go away?

[Jin91]

how often should we shower?
hm this sounds interesting. I think I want to try it

edit----
lol some more questions. So yeah, I'm interested in trying this out. For makeup, can I use cetaphil or ponds wipes? because that's what I do. And I actually don't use anything else other than water to rinse my face, which I guess is good.

And I have eczema so I have dry skin on my face. Is cetaphil or aveeno lotion okay? And what do you think of vaseline?

[yuri9do0]

oh ya
do we HAVE to brush out teeth at NIGHT?

[kcy]

PRE SOAP
(x) I showered in a regular time pattern [every morning, every night, exactly every 1.5 days, etc]
(x) I used to regularly wash my hair every day.
(x) I used hair styling products besides shampoo and conditioner regularly (MORE THAN 2X A YR] [salon/oil treatments, hair serums/masks].
(x) I've had these chemical procedures on my hair: any type of straightening or curling perm, color treatment, highlights

(x) I used to use a towel to briskly dry my hair after washing
( ) I used to use a towel to gently pat dry my hair after washing
( ) I used to use a blowdryer regularly to dry my hair
(x) I usually brushed wet hair carelessly with a brush
(x) I usually combed/detangled wet hair carelessly with a comb
( ) I usually carefully brushed wet hair while holding each lock as I brushed/untangled it
( ) I usually carefully detangled wet hair with a comb


POST SOAP
( ) I use soap in place of shampoo
( ) I no longer use conditioner
( ) I use soap instead of toothpaste
(x) I use nothing but soap to wash my body
( ) I use nothing but soap to wash my face
( ) I wash only when I feel my body needs washing
( ) I wash my hair by how it feels, not by time periods
(x) I still wash my hair every day
( ) I wash my hair every other day with soap
( ) I wash my hair once every three days with soap
( ) I wash my hair with only water at least once a week INSTEAD of soap
( ) I use plant oils on my hair [olive, camellia, etc]
( ) I no longer use commercially manufactured anything labeled as 'shampoo' 'conditioner' 'body wash' 'beauty bar' 'acne wash' or any type of lotion

(x) I always comb hair while it's wet
(x) I always brush hair while it's wet
( ) I always hold the lock of wet hair I'm brushing/combing with the other hand so I don't pull on the roots
( ) I don't bother with holding wet hair when in place
( ) I never comb wet hair
( ) I never brush wet hair
( ) I wait until hair is completely dry before combing or brushing it

( ) I towel PAT hair dry gently
( ) I vigorously towel dry hair
(x) I towel-dry it then blow dry it
( ) I completely drip dry hair

PRE-SOAP vs POST SOAP
( ) my hair is less oily
( ) my hair has less dandruff (if dandruff was an issue before)
( ) my hair is finer/sleeker-feeling now
( ) my hair is less pouffy
( ) my hair falls out less than before, while washing it
( ) my hair falls out same/more than before, while washing it
( ) my hair falls out less than before, when I comb it it completely dry
( ) my hair falls out more than before, when I comb it damp/wet

( ) I feel hair being yanked out when I brush/comb it
( ) I feel like my hair is thinning
( ) I believe I'm losing more than 80 hairs every day since switching to soap
( ) I believe I'm losing around 30 hairs a day since switching to soap
(x) I eat meat every day
( ) I eat meat on a regular basis
( ) I hardly ever eat meat
( ) I never eat meat

( ) I've had problems from anemia before or iron deficiencies
( ) I have very heavy/prolonged menstrual periods
( ) I have had severe acne problems
( ) I have had eczema or psoriasis
( ) I am a young teen (11-14)
(x) I am a mid-teen (15-19)
( ) I am a young adult (20-25)
( ) I am an adult (25-35)
( ) My area has soft water
( ) My area has hard water
(x) I'm not sure of the water hardness in my area

[GRRRf00]

how often should we shower?
hm this sounds interesting. I think I want to try it

edit----
lol some more questions. So yeah, I'm interested in trying this out. For makeup, can I use cetaphil or ponds wipes? because that's what I do. And I actually don't use anything else other than water to rinse my face, which I guess is good.

And I have eczema so I have dry skin on my face. Is cetaphil or aveeno lotion okay? And what do you think of vaseline?

i have eczema too!
i just wash w/water. my skin became used to it, so now my skin is all nice and smooth. ^^
just let it go to its detox stage.
but do you have eczema ointment?
cuz the one i have would get rid of the eczema after a day you apply it.
so if you do, i suggest you put it on if your eczema seems to get out of control/feels bad.
then wash w/water.

if you get the soap, you could wash your face with it.
but i dont know about the washing off the makeup, cuz i dont wear it.
but the wipes might make your skin irritated and cause your eczema to react.

but, anyway, g'luck.

[Jin91]

^ yeah after I wipe of my makeup, I only rinse my face with water. What kind of lotion do you use afterward? or what do you do afterward? the area around my mouth and eyes are usually slightly reddish and dry

[sweet__candy]

I wash my hair every other days and my hair stay extremely healthy even though I use straightener times to times
on the other hand my sister who wash her hair everyday and use less straightener as me ..her hair is always dry and dead looking

[dinky-monkey]

WOOOOOOOOOW... this thread is really helpful.

When I read eunbit's post I was like "WTH?? I live in Europe and I never knew they use natural soap here!!" Gosh, many do! I googled and there were many many postings and articled about the skin issue!

I've learned that our skin ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ACIDIC!!!!!! And the "acid mantle" is NOT an instrument of protection of the body. In fact, it's the product of exuding! That's why the skin of a baby is alkaline, not acidic! The human body needs to be alkaline in order to function well (which is why the amniotic fluid is alkaline) , which is why we need to exude acids from our body, e.g. via the skin--> skin becomes acidic.

Well, I googled and now I've found some places where I can buy natural soap in my city.

I'm gonna try using soap tomorrow...

[strawberrykiwii]

http://www.mcguirenaturals.ca/products.php?cat=11

i just bought their lavender soap
the ingredients don't look too bad
anyone think its safe to use?

[Jin91]

okay so I just read through more pages of your thread and... vaseline is bad? oh wow that really surprised me. I have eczema and on my face, around my eyes and mouth are really sensitive and dry. I use vaseline all the time around my mouth when I'm home but what you said made sense... the part about it keeping the skin sensitive and really.. dependent on it. I don't have the soap right now, could I just use my cetaphil lotion instead? because I definitely can't all of a sudden stop using lotion and vaseline and stuff

ahh I really want to try this out now, haha. If it works out for me i'm going to tell my doctor. I'm buying the soap this week and sometime later I'll post my experience for someone with year round eczema.

[GRRRf00]

^ yeah after I wipe of my makeup, I only rinse my face with water. What kind of lotion do you use afterward? or what do you do afterward? the area around my mouth and eyes are usually slightly reddish and dry

a lot of people use olive oil to moisturize but i didnt and let it heal by itself.
but i might ahve a milder case so just a heads up.

[yuri9do0]

my skin is suppper oily in general so i dontg use the olive oil to mositurize lol

so someone mentioned vineger rinse to get rinse off excess soap?
how do i do that?


and also, im also having problems with hair loss...

ive been using soap for about 2 months now

[faithpuppy]

oh ya
do we HAVE to brush out teeth at NIGHT?

erm... well for oral health its recommended to brush at least twice a day? but its up to you

[GRRRf00]

uhm, i have a question.
can someone help w/my EXTREMELY knotty hair.
i dont wanna fight w/it cuz im scared of losing hair.

[alohello]

Is it better to wash your hair in the morning or at night?

[Crispy]

I didn't read the whole post (in a turtle-like mood right now; much too lazy),
but hopefully you're not suggesting to use regular soap as face-wash, are you?
Cause that's horrible.
Regular soap completely strips the skin (of the face) of essential oils and drys it out,
which causes the skin (through homeostasis) to produce more sebum.

(my bad if you didn't say that at all, but if you did, you should probably research more before you recommend these types of methods to people)

[nghister]

I didn't read the whole post (in a turtle-like mood right now; much too lazy),
but hopefully you're not suggesting to use regular soap as face-wash, are you?
Cause that's horrible.
Regular soap completely strips the skin (of the face) of essential oils and drys it out,
which causes the skin (through homeostasis) to produce more sebum.

(my bad if you didn't say that at all, but if you did, you should probably research more before you recommend these types of methods to people)

That's why, read more, then comment. Trust me.

[faithpuppy]

I didn't read the whole post (in a turtle-like mood right now; much too lazy),
but hopefully you're not suggesting to use regular soap as face-wash, are you?
Cause that's horrible.
Regular soap completely strips the skin (of the face) of essential oils and drys it out,
which causes the skin (through homeostasis) to produce more sebum.

(my bad if you didn't say that at all, but if you did, you should probably research more before you recommend these types of methods to people)

lol there's a reason why you should read the post before posting then =]

but to save you the trouble, the answer is no. we're recommending to use non-commercial natural/organic soaps that don't have a huge load of chemicals in them