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#1 User is offline   swymg25 

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:19 PM

Okay im in high school right now. Right now, there is a program called International Bacceleuret. It is equivalent to AP. YOu can get college credit and has the same weighted GPA. I have to decide whether to do AP or IB since you cnat do both. Anyone involved in the IB and or had to choose between these two programs, can you write waht your decision was and why you picked either one. ALso, anyone in IB can you share you experience?
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:22 PM

what's the major differences between taking either of the classes?
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Have you ever seen normal Taiwanese or Korean people walking around on streets? Most of them have huge noses, small chinky eyes and flat noses and look nothing like those celebrities you see in dramas.And sorry, but most Korean celebrities you see on TV underwent a lot of plastic surgeries in order to look like what you see on TV. I think this should be well-known by all K-Pop-fans.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (IwishIwasKOREAN @ Jan 23 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what's the major differences between taking either of the classes?

IB is a fairly new program but is considered prestigious. I guess the work level between AP and IB is about the same but in IB youre required to take more in depth courses, participate in sports, 150 hours of service, and a few more things. AP pretty much grades you on what you dont no on the AP exam. youre pretty much regurgitating the facts you learned. On the other hand, IB grades you on what you learned. Also IB is recognized internationally. It seems liek IB is ALOT harder. You pretty much take college courses in junior and senior year.

I dont no which program is best for me. IB or AP?
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (swymg25 @ Jan 23 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IB is a fairly new program but is considered prestigious. I guess the work level between AP and IB is about the same but in IB youre required to take more in depth courses, participate in sports, 150 hours of service, and a few more things. AP pretty much grades you on what you dont no on the AP exam. youre pretty much regurgitating the facts you learned. On the other hand, IB grades you on what you learned. Also IB is recognized internationally. It seems liek IB is ALOT harder. You pretty much take college courses in junior and senior year.

I dont no which program is best for me. IB or AP?


Seems like IB is preparing you a better student profile in order to gain acceptance in more universities. Sports, community service are things you can do on your own though. Well it depends on what kind of sports teams u want to play for and if you can make them.

I think it's really up to you, if you plan on obtaining scholarships and grants...it seems that IB would be the best to prepare you for that.

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Have you ever seen normal Taiwanese or Korean people walking around on streets? Most of them have huge noses, small chinky eyes and flat noses and look nothing like those celebrities you see in dramas.And sorry, but most Korean celebrities you see on TV underwent a lot of plastic surgeries in order to look like what you see on TV. I think this should be well-known by all K-Pop-fans.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 07:49 PM

lol IB is harder than AP
O.O well where i live [southern cali]
IB is harder and consider better than AP
although they are somewhat on the same level
but not all school have both programs
I'm in AP and it's just..iono, harder classes that's all
however IB requires more than just academic i think =]
so if youo're a hard worker, i suggest IB
but if you're smart and a little bit lazy, i say AP heheh
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (Apple.Mint @ Jan 23 2009, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol IB is harder than AP
O.O well where i live [southern cali]
IB is harder and consider better than AP
although they are somewhat on the same level
but not all school have both programs
I'm in AP and it's just..iono, harder classes that's all
however IB requires more than just academic i think =]
so if youo're a hard worker, i suggest IB
but if you're smart and a little bit lazy, i say AP heheh

how much work do the ib kids get?? i kind of the smart but lazy style lol
if i do pick ib, then ill have to start focusing
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 10:51 PM

Hrmm. I've always heard that AP is harder than IB.
I'm nore sure because all my classes are IB and none are AP
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 10:54 PM

IB is freaking scary =3=
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:02 PM

For some reason I thought IB was only in Canada and was just a different version of saying AP .. lol
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:11 PM

ap=recongize in america
Ib- recongnize internationally. It's harder. You can get into any post secondary if you remain to have high marks.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 12:10 AM

IB program is broken. You don't want it.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE (swymg25 @ Jan 23 2009, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how much work do the ib kids get?? i kind of the smart but lazy style lol
if i do pick ib, then ill have to start focusing


just go to wikipedia and type in "international baccalaureate" and you spelled 'baccalaureate' wrong.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 10:52 AM

IB is harder, most definitely. Even my English teacher, who took AP courses, agrees.
I don't know about AP, but most of the work in IB requires in-depth analysis (well, verbal work, at least).

For example, in Topics (IB History II), we don't learn much about what is occurring during a particular event.
We don't really memorize dates or look at an overview of, let's say, battles of the Vietnam War.
We learn WHY the event occurred. What were the countries' motives? What influenced the China to enter the Korean War? Assess the role of Germany in the Cold War. To what extent, did detente fail?
(Well, that's the case in my school.. I'm not sure about the rest)
And I absolutely abhor that "to what extent..." question, by the way.

In addition, each IB class requires that you do an individual assessment (Internal Assessment - IA).
For IB Math SL & HL, it's a portfolio. For IB English HL I, it's, I think, a presentation where you talk for at least 10 min. & 2 World Literature Papers. Etc. etc.

If you decide to go full IB, then I wish you luck.
A couple of my friends decided to take that path, and they have a massive load of work every day.
As a result, they either 1) stay up WAAAAY in the wee hours of night or 2) don't sleep at all and pull all-nighters every two days.
Several of them have hurt their GPAs pretty badly too.. Then again, our grading system is based on 6-points, but the effect remains the same.
I have so much respect for them and all their suffering.

Currently, I'm taking partial IB courses, and I still suffer from insomnia.
But, that's probably because I procrastinate and am lazy. xP I took a range of IB courses though.
From my experience, IB Sciences are just a lot of labs and write-ups. I wouldn't know about IB Math though as I didn't take it.
And you already got a glimpse of IB History. But, there's a WHOLE ton of other IB courses.
The only AP class that I'm taking is Statistics.. (It's the only one they offer in our school)
And I like it well enough.. Except the tests are killing me x_X (As you can see, math is not my strong point, regardless if I take AP or IB)

Overall, IB is a lot of work. It's very demanding, and you've really got to focus and work on your organizational habits if you decide to take it.
I guess it's worth it though since credit for IB courses is accepted internationally.
I know this one guy who took IB courses, did well in classes/IB exams, & got into sophomore year in college.
When he's supposed to be a freshman.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE (xue li @ Jan 24 2009, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IB is harder, most definitely. Even my English teacher, who took AP courses, agrees.
I don't know about AP, but most of the work in IB requires in-depth analysis (well, verbal work, at least).

For example, in Topics (IB History II), we don't learn much about what is occurring during a particular event.
We don't really memorize dates or look at an overview of, let's say, battles of the Vietnam War.
We learn WHY the event occurred. What were the countries' motives? What influenced the China to enter the Korean War? Assess the role of Germany in the Cold War. To what extent, did detente fail?
(Well, that's the case in my school.. I'm not sure about the rest)
And I absolutely abhor that "to what extent..." question, by the way.

In addition, each IB class requires that you do an individual assessment (Internal Assessment - IA).
For IB Math SL & HL, it's a portfolio. For IB English HL I, it's, I think, a presentation where you talk for at least 10 min. & 2 World Literature Papers. Etc. etc.

If you decide to go full IB, then I wish you luck.
A couple of my friends decided to take that path, and they have a massive load of work every day.
As a result, they either 1) stay up WAAAAY in the wee hours of night or 2) don't sleep at all and pull all-nighters every two days.
Several of them have hurt their GPAs pretty badly too.. Then again, our grading system is based on 6-points, but the effect remains the same.
I have so much respect for them and all their suffering.

Currently, I'm taking partial IB courses, and I still suffer from insomnia.
But, that's probably because I procrastinate and am lazy. xP I took a range of IB courses though.
From my experience, IB Sciences are just a lot of labs and write-ups. I wouldn't know about IB Math though as I didn't take it.
And you already got a glimpse of IB History. But, there's a WHOLE ton of other IB courses.
The only AP class that I'm taking is Statistics.. (It's the only one they offer in our school)
And I like it well enough.. Except the tests are killing me x_X (As you can see, math is not my strong point, regardless if I take AP or IB)

Overall, IB is a lot of work. It's very demanding, and you've really got to focus and work on your organizational habits if you decide to take it.
I guess it's worth it though since credit for IB courses is accepted internationally.
I know this one guy who took IB courses, did well in classes/IB exams, & got into sophomore year in college.
When he's supposed to be a freshman.

if you odnt plan to work in other countires is ib not worth it?
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:04 PM

I think it'd be good to do IB over AP.

There's both good things, but I think IB helps make a more-rounded student.

But, then again, you'll be pushed to the limit. My friends in full-IB curriculum have to give 110% percent, not saying you don't in AP.

Plus, if you're full IB and pass your tests, you in essence can get junior standing in college.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE (swymg25 @ Jan 24 2009, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you odnt plan to work in other countires is ib not worth it?

Even if you don't plan to work in other countries, I think that, after all the struggles, IB is still worth it in the end.
Because IB courses are similar to college courses, it prepares you for when you do go to college.
What I meant was that you could go to college abroad if you wanted to, because IB credit is accepted internationally.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 06:44 AM

thanks for asking the question, i have always been indecisive about these two choices
all the answers really help, thank you very much-- especially to xue li ^^
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 07:15 AM

personally,
(coming from an ib candidate)
ib is a waste of time.
do AP.
thats all
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and to xue li:
for your given example of history classes,
that completely depends on your school.
because at mine,
we focus on the cause & effect
(like you've described)
even in freshman honors & sohpomore AP history classes
so you cant use that example to to say that ib is an exemplary program
cause, really, it all depends on the school and its teachers

bottom line.
ib sucks, haha

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:09 PM

Our school only has AP. Not a big deal to me, since I'm happy with life anyway.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (lovablekrnstar63 @ Jan 25 2009, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and to xue li:
for your given example of history classes,
that completely depends on your school.
because at mine,
we focus on the cause & effect
(like you've described)
even in freshman honors & sohpomore AP history classes
so you cant use that example to to say that ib is an exemplary program
cause, really, it all depends on the school and its teachers

bottom line.
ib sucks, haha


This is true. Even though my IB History classes are similar to Xue Li's, my other IB classes are not similar to other IB students from other places in Canada or the States.

Ex. IB English. They'll all vary. Even though the exams will stay the same, every teacher always has some different method. Cause not every IB English student I know had to write a journal entry for every chapter in: Surfacing, Heart of Darkness and Siddhartha. As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure if they read the same books.

But yes ib does suck.
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