[LucasBunny]

La Bamba
Gasolina
99 Luftballons
Rock Me Amadeus

lol
Not many, eh?

Don't forget Selena's songs lol and Macarena...well it was lil bit of english
and who can forget the Beatles "She loves me"

[ms.incredible]

gosh.... how can you say Charice looks bad??? lol

have you seen rhianna or any black singer without a make up???
try to look for photos of some Hollywood celebrities or singers without their make up.... lil kim looks awful even with make up... lol....


since you haven't heard of Charice before.... try looking for her in the net/youtube.... if she still doesn't impress you... then that's one less fan.

but then again.... as what i have said.... it's just a matter of timing and luck....

1. What the f*ck?

2. Right b/c Britney Spears and JLO look exactly like their magazine covers without makeup.

3. This is Rihanna without makeup..... What's "awful" about it? She damnnear looks the same.



4. Go sit in the corner, read a book and free you mind......for the future's sake.

[LucasBunny]

1. What the f*ck?

2. Right b/c Britney Spears and JLO look exactly like their magazine covers without makeup.

3. This is Rihanna without makeup..... What's "awful" about it? She damnnear looks the same.

http://i41.tinypic.com/anoot1.jpg

4. Go sit in the corner, read a book and free you mind......for the future's sake.

Quoted for the mutherjohn teshing truth.

Best post in this thread rlmao.

[SleazyTerdz]

Rihanna actually looks pretty damn good without make up. A little tired, but still pretty.

Can anyone name an Asian artist in the U.S? I'm just blank, and can only come up with Tila Tequila who, well, doesn't really count.

[ms.incredible]

[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Rain should just stick to the movies for America.
Besides, if he's really going to debut as a singer, he has to officially call himself "The Rain" since he lost the case against that Beatles' cover band, "Rain".

I think movies will be a good platform for American audiences to get to know him. Then he can launch a singing career from that or even sign with a major label since he'll be better known(of course this depends on the success of his movies.LOL). I still don't understand why they just didn't change the spelling to "reign" or Rainne or something. The rain is lame.LOL

[kissez*]

Don't forget Selena's songs lol and Macarena...well it was lil bit of english
and who can forget the Beatles "She loves me"

I didn't count Macarena because two-thirds of the song was in English.
The Beatles - She Loves You?
That was in English

Can anyone name an Asian artist in the U.S? I'm just blank, and can only come up with Tila Tequila who, well, doesn't really count.

Jin... Tha Mc..?
I don't think he really counts either lol.

[LucasBunny]

I didn't count Macarena because two-thirds of the song was in English.
The Beatles - She Loves You?
That was in English



Jin... Tha Mc..?
I don't think he really counts either lol.

Don't they also have a German version of it??
I could have sworn they did maybe it was another song.

OH YEAH AND LA TOTURA

by Shakira and Alejendro...err wahtever his name is lol.

[dramaprincessxox]

La Bamba
Gasolina
99 Luftballons
Rock Me Amadeus

lol
Not many, eh?

So? (I won't even go into the fact that there are many more). I also mentioned songs that are in English but have weird pronounciation that is hardly understandable, how come you didn't mention any like that? Countless reggae and dancehall, as well as crazy rap songs like some of Soulja Boy's nonsense have been very famous. People even love the African songs from Lion King. My whole point is, perfect English isn't necessary, in fact it's better that Asian artists do not attempt to use it in debut songs.

Their English versions are unappealing because they come across as wannabe and pretentious. People go like, "why's that guy all ghetto?" or "does she think she's Britney, what the hell's she playin' at?" (believe me, these are watered down!). It's so important that they just be themselves and refuse to change their original Asian music for anyone. It's of a high standard already and it's impressive, so don't change it, just bring it out!

gosh.... how can you say Charice looks bad??? lol

Girl, maybe that kid is pretty where she came from. But I'll say it again: she does not look good. At best, she's kind of "cutesy" because of her chubby face.

Can anyone name an Asian artist in the U.S? I'm just blank, and can only come up with Tila Tequila who, well, doesn't really count.

Oh, I remember that around 2004, I was watching BET and I saw this Chinese-American rapper who was really good. Well, obviously, if he was on BET! His single was called "Speak Chinese" or something and I think it stirred up a little attention, but after that I never saw him anywhere. Geez can't even remember the guy's name...

[kissez*]

Don't they also have a German version of it??
I could have sworn they did maybe it was another song.

OH YEAH AND LA TOTURA

by Shakira and Alejendro...err wahtever his name is lol.

DID they?
*googles real quick
Yeah, they did have a German version out.

Oh! Forgot about Shakira. La Tortura with it's killer reggaeton beat.

So? (I won't even go into the fact that there are many more). I also mentioned songs that are in English but have weird pronounciation that is hardly understandable, how come no one mentioned any like that? Countless reggae and dancehall, as well as crazy rap songs like some of Soulja Boy's nonsense have been very famous. My whole point is, perfect English isn't necessary, in fact it's better that Asian artists do not attempt to use it in debut songs.

Their English versions are unappealing because they come across as wannabe and pretentious. People go like, "why's that guy all ghetto?" or "does she think she's Britney, what the hell's she playin' at?" (believe me, these are watered down!). It's so important that they just be themselves and refuse to change their original Asian music for anyone. It's of a high standard already and it's impressive, so don't change it, just bring it out!

So WHAT?
Someone asked for a list and therefore, I started compiling one.
No need to be so melodramatic.
I wasn't even concerned with your posts lol.

[ms.incredible]

Quoted for the mutherjohn teshing truth.

Best post in this thread rlmao.

Does that mean I win the thread?LOL

Can anyone name an Asian artist in the U.S? I'm just blank, and can only come up with Tila Tequila who, well, doesn't really count.

Not many. I think the rapper in linkin park is japanese and Nicole Scherzinger is half phillipina(sp).....Amerie's half korean. Can't think of any full solo asians though.

Don't they also have a German version of it??
I could have sworn they did maybe it was another song.

OH YEAH AND LA TOTURA

by Shakira and Alejendro...err wahtever his name is lol.

What about the biddy biddy bam bah song by Selena?

[sheart]

So? (I won't even go into the fact that there are many more). I also mentioned songs that are in English but have weird pronounciation that is hardly understandable, how come you didn't mention any like that? Countless reggae and dancehall, as well as crazy rap songs like some of Soulja Boy's nonsense have been very famous. My whole point is, perfect English isn't necessary, in fact it's better that Asian artists do not attempt to use it in debut songs.

Rap is still in english. Even Dizzee Rascal's raps are still in english. I think what makes it hard for some people to understand is the slang they use (slang which is most likely rooted in america). I guess you could call some of it an 'accent' (my roommate calls it an accent) but it's still an American thing I think. Rap isn't from a different country. And Reggae is it's own category (as kpop is it's own category). Shall we make a category for asians trying to crossover with bad english? =/
If it's not mainstream then whatever, they can sing however they want, but if you want a singer to make it to the mainstream I think language is necessary.

Shakira and Selena the best examples i can think of. Like ever. And if that's the case, whoever wants to be the asian selena/shakira better have pipes cause soft child voices aren't gonna cut it.

From a marketing perspective, to me, not very many people will pick up a song that's NOT in english from a singer they've never heard of before, especially when there are tons of people trying to make it who know english perfectly well. Especially for radio play unless the station focuses on international music.

Can anyone name an Asian artist in the U.S? I'm just blank, and can only come up with Tila Tequila who, well, doesn't really count.

Korean dj and half Japanese member in Linkin Park. I know there are at least a few bands with asian members though I cant think of which right now. Justin Nozuka is half Japanese (he's technically Canadian though) but has performed in the US a bit. Far East Movement (I'm not that interested in them, but pretty sure they are lol). And Nosaj Thing (I think he's gonna be coming up, but that's just me) is Chinese I think. Oh, and Chad from N.E.R.D.

[kissez*]

Does that mean I win the thread?LOL



Not many. I think the rapper in linkin park is japanese and Nicole Scherzinger is half phillipina(sp).....Amerie's half korean. Can't think of any full solo asians though.

Mike Shinoda is half-Japanese. Mr. Hahn is full Korean though.

What about the biddy biddy bam bah song by Selena?

Selena's been mentioned.

Don't forget Selena's songs lol and Macarena...well it was lil bit of english

[ms.incredible]

ON the english thing: One could actually know how to sing perfect english without knowing a word of it. So as long as they can get their english singing down. I don't think it'd matter as much if they speak with a slight accent.

[dramaprincessxox]

So WHAT?
Someone asked for a list and therefore, I started compiling one.
No need to be so melodramatic.
I wasn't even concerned with your posts lol.

Hey, I'm just stating facts, which I enjoy doing. It's either you like being schooled or you don't! Don't lose your cool over it.

Rap is still in english. I think what makes it hard for some people to understand is the slang they use (slang which is most likely rooted in america). Rap isn't from a different country. And Reggae is it's own category (as kpop is it's own category). Shall we make a category for asians trying to crossover with bad english? =/
If it's not mainstream then whatever, they can sing however they want, but if you want a singer to make it to the mainstream I think language is necessary.

Shakira and Selena the best examples i can think of. Like ever. And if that's the case, whoever wants to be the asian selena/shakira better have pipes cause soft child voices aren't gonna cut it.

From a marketing perspective, to me, not very many people will pick up a song that's NOT in english from a singer they've never heard of before, especially when there are tons of people trying to make it who know english perfectly well. Especially for radio play unless the station focuses on international music.

This is the problem, I just don't get this. You need to have a positive attitude towards the music. The way a lot of Asian fans talk about their music, they make it sound like, "Oh, well, it's good for Asia but in America it's worth nothing. We have to change it to make it good enough for America."

Remember the Asian singers crossing over are like pioneers. They want to do what's never been done before. So you need to realise that it doesn't matter if other people have failed. You have to take Hollywood by storm with your new music. Do exactly that: something unprecedented. If I'm so fussy and I like some Asian music, I'm telling you it's definitely high quality music. I guess it's just that some of actual Asian fans still need to start believing that more themselves?

You don't have to take me seriously of course, thats just my opinion.

[kissez*]

Hey, I'm just stating facts, which I enjoy doing. It's either you like being schooled or you don't! Don't lose your cool over it.

Who are you "schooling"?
rofl
I'm not the one losing my cool over here - you wrote 2 paragraphs in retaliation to something that wasn't even directed at you, genius .
It's kind of funny, nowhere did I disagree with you but you had to get super defensive just because you assumed I did.

[sheart]

This is the problem, I just don't get this. You need to have a positive attitude towards the music. The way a lot of Asian fans talk about their music, they make it sound like, "Oh, well, it's good for Asia but in America it's worth nothing. We have to change it to make it good enough for America."

Remember the Asian singers crossing over are like pioneers. They want to do what's never been done before. So you need to realise that it doesn't matter if other people have failed. You have to take Hollywood by storm with your new music. Do exactly that: something unprecedented. If I'm so fussy and I like some Asian music, I'm telling you it's definitely high quality music. I guess it's just that some of actual Asian fans still need to start believing that more themselves?

You don't have to take me seriously of course, thats just my opinion.

I get what you mean and it sounds really nice, but just being positive about it isn't going to make anything happen. In reality you need connections to even get something to get picked up at all. I don't think I'm negative towards Asian music, I'm just content with most of it staying in Asia. Believing in something and ability/making it happen are completely different.

(ex: I love the japanese duo Chemistry, but I'm happy with them singing in Japan; I don't expect them to try to learn english and break into America. If I have a friend listen to it and they think they're good even though they don't understand, thats cool too. I don't see them taking the industry by storm is all. I'm content with them singing in Japan.)

This is part of the reason I support Utada more than the 'crossovers'. All of her stuff is naturally done by herself and is actually American. She isn't trying to appeal to an audience she doesn't understand or hasn't been a part of. I think an artist like this will have to be successful (sort of like an Asian foot-in-the-door) before America accepts completely foreign music on a whole (if you're talking about a mainstream level, because if you're not then they can do whatever they want).

And not to diss Asian music (because I don't mean it as a whole, I just dont want to name names because it'll start fights) but some popular Asian songs aren't high quality. Have you seen the song turnover rate? Most of the songs that come out don't have a lot of staying power. There are some artists that are definitely making good music, and on the other hand there are the ones that are basically making a product each time.

(and as a sidenote, i think image, at least in kpop, has such an overwhelming role that sometimes the music is marginalized. more often than not i see discussions and arguments about the image or style of something a singer came out with rather than the song or vocal ability)

[dramaprincessxox]

Who are you "schooling"?
rofl
I'm not the one losing my cool over here - you wrote 2 paragraphs in retaliation to something that wasn't even directed at you, genius .
It's kind of funny, nowhere did I disagree with you but you had to get super defensive just because you assumed I did.

Girl, that is enough for now. Maybe you dislike me or whatever, but I'm not going to argue with you. Just...what should I say? Calm down. It's just a forum thread. It's not even a debating contest.

My 2 paragraphs weren't in retaliation either. If you've been reading this thread long enough, you'll see that I write a whole lot because I'm passionate about this topic. Yes, I want to see the day that Asian singers can break barriers and be big names in the west. For me, it has a really deep meaning, and it's for a noble cause. It's about going against huge odds. And that is why I write so much. so don't keep getting offended. You can just ignore my posts, okay? lol

This is part of the reason I support Utada more than the 'crossovers'. All of her stuff is naturally done by herself and is actually American. She isn't trying to appeal to an audience she doesn't understand or hasn't been a part of. I think an artist like this will have to be successful (sort of like an Asian foot-in-the-door) before America accepts completely foreign music on a whole (if you're talking about a mainstream level, because if you're not then they can do whatever they want).

You sure are right about Utada. I saw an interview with her today, I could not believe what a sweet and nice girl she is. And so down-to-earth, and natural. No junk of makeup, she didn't even dye her hair for that interview, and she was honest and showed her genuine emotions. I really admire that girl.

[kissez*]

Girl, that is enough for now. Maybe you dislike me or whatever, but I'm not going to argue with you. Just...what should I say? Calm down. It's just a forum thread. It's not even a debating contest.

My 2 paragraphs weren't in retaliation either. If you've been reading this thread long enough, you'll see that I write a whole lot because I'm passionate about this topic. Yes, I want to see the day that Asian singers can break barriers and be big names in the west. For me, it has a really deep meaning, and it's for a noble cause. It's about going against huge odds. And that is why I write so much. so don't keep getting offended. You can just ignore my posts, okay? lol

Don't dislike you. Don't care to.
I "nothing" you - honest.
I'm not offended at all. I just think it's funny you got so defensive over nothing lol.
But anywho. Back to the topic at hand.

Oh, and Chad from N.E.R.D.

Forgot about him for a second.
Rofl, still not on topic.

[zeidrich]

Can we add Rin on the Rox in here?

they just release their single " T O R T U R E "
I dunno how well they will do because they dont even have a label nor a producer, But Ellen Degeneres supports them, i think they will fail thou, to few people backing them up.


BTW, i think Asian style switch to American Style is irrelevant in PH artist, PH music is dominated by american music. They just need to adjust with their accent and master the english language.
Look at PH daily top 20 from myx - #1 station in PH
Daily Top 20
8 out of 10 are from the american artist`s.

Ellen Degeneres already invited ROTR , Cha, AP and journey and now she is inviting AMY - the 6 year old kid from PH. Does ellen love PH artist? maybe, but i think its more like they are just fit in the american music rather than favoritism.

[LazyAzian]

@ dramaprincessxox

I highly doubt Hyori Lee would become popular in America if she debuted here.

BoA can totally pwn Hyori Lee in singing and dancing.

I also dislike the fact that you seem to ridicule Utada by making ehr efforts seem futile.

It sounds like you think Hyori Lee, a Korean who has no background in dancing nor expert singing who cannot speak English has more chances than Utada who was born and raised in New York City and can sing tons better than Hyori Lee and composes her own songs.


BoA & Utada >>>>>>>>>>>> Hyori Lee.

EDIT:

You seem contradicting, you say "Utada Hikaru: The girl tried already, why is she going again? She's not it either." But then you say you admire her? So much for admiration and support.

ANOTHER EDIT:

You have a lot of "flaws"when you judge people. "Charice: I will admit first that I had never heard of the girl in my life before reading this post. So based on what I see: NO. She looks...bad, for lack of a kinder word. And looks matter, people."

Well If looks really did matter, I guess Charice must have been hella pretty because she boosted Italian ratings to 55% this month on one show.