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Post icon  Posted 08 March 2009 - 11:56 PM

(mods: please find appropriate home for this thread if i posted it in the wrong section. i was debating whether to post it here or the 20+. or just close if it is unappropriate)

i was watching some movie or show the other night and the question suddenly hit me and got me thinking up until 8 in the morning about it.

would you be able to date/marry a person who committed a homicide? or just a plain killer?

i for one, would probably say i can. i know, you're probably thinking i'm crazy, but i'm being honest.
i don't have a specific reason for saying i can, but i just know i can.

a police is able to kill a person because it's their job to protect the community from "dangerous" people,
but doesn't that make them a criminal, too? a swat team is trained to shoot and [kill] if they are given
orders to. a gangster is able to shoot his gun to kill a person for many reasons. my point is that they
all have a gun loaded with bullets. they're still shooting another human being, but why is it that the
gangster/criminal/crazy person gets killed or gets put in jail whereas the swat member or police officer
can say it's their job? the blood is still on their hands (figuratively).

but as for the sake of my topic... the person is not a psycho or have mental problems of any sort.
and the reason is for money. (LOL, kinda in a way like Zeni Geba but not really)
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:29 AM

How does it make the cop a criminal? their protecting the community like u said. If they dont do anything about it than whos gonna protect the community? They dont go out and choose a random person to kill. A homicide is when a person purposely kills another person. And i think ur pretty crazy dating a homicidal maniac
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:32 AM

Why is it justifiable that police are almost never held responsible for shootings? It is simply because the police are acting in the interest of the community and protecting others that are too weak or too helpless to fight back. The true difference between a gangster and a police officer is the intent of their actions: while gangsters seek to kill because of pride, affiliation, or just plain misunderstanding, a police officer kills in self-defense and often to ensure the safety of others.

While there are instances of negligence by a police officer, what you're asking is what is the difference between these two subgroups on a general standpoint. So in the most idealistic cases--and most of them are such--the gangster commits a crime while the police officer chooses to take action to protect him or herself.

Now, there are instances where you can say, well a gangster is protecting himself by shooting a rival gang member and also ensuring the safety of his other fellow gangbangers; however, yet again the intention is different: this is a premeditated execution order. To compare this, let us say a SWAT team is ordered to shoot to kill any person holding a gun in a building and they enter stealthily to kill two people that pose no clear and immediate danger. This is premeditated, but in no way does it qualify as an execution. This fails on two levels: first, the SWAT team would not be in place unless there was the threat of an immediate danger to public safety; second, the SWAT team is ordered to shoot to kill because the combatants would do the same given the opportunity--they are acting totally in self defense.

While the blood is on the hands of both groups, it is definitely up to motive and intention that we can attribute to the type of blood on one's hands. In the end, it is the idea of asking yourself one question: is it innocent blood or not?

But in my own humble opinion, to answer your immediate question, I would have to say no. A homicide--by connotation anyways--suggests that the person committing this crime did this in a premeditated fashion with the idea of committing an egregious offense that is unacceptable by social and humane standards. Now, if this was in self-defense, I would forgive and try to forget their past. But you're saying that they committed a homicide and a homicide, patently on its face, is a crime.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:36 AM

FYI Police can't kill other people that easily. Well at least in here.
They're not suppose to kill them, they're meant to capture the criminals. SWAT, then yea I guess they are trained to kill.

But then again, you just said it yourself, Police is helping other people. While Criminals, they make other people life miserable.
That's the difference.

As for the question, no way. definite no.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:42 AM

I don't know about you, but police pretty much do not get away with shootings as well as murders or serial killers. They might receive further consideration due to their occupation itself, however police are not suppose to shoot dead someone just because they are a criminal, that is if the police is in a threatened life death situation. Either way, if a police shot dead a criminal, an investigation is usually made, and if the reason is not appropriate, court hearings etc would be made.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:26 AM

Some people don't have a choice- their s/o could kill once they're already in the relationship :s
If you mean, would I date someone I KNEW was a homicidal maniac... Uh. No? xD
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Someone who kills for money isn't any better, really. Because, most normal people couldn't do that.
So to some degree, you have to be kinda messed up in the head to bump off people for a living. So no to that, too.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:50 AM

Murderer = NO.

Self Defense = probably.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:23 AM

If my bf killed someone no matter the reason then yeah, I'll still be there for him cause my feelings have already developed.
If its a guy that I just met and find that his hands have already been stained, then the most we'll be are acquaintances.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:34 AM

Police are supposed to use no more force than necessary for whatever it is they are doing. People have the right to use enough force to protect themselves. Let's just leave it at that. Gangters.. don't even get me started on them. They're no help to this society. Atleast the police are there to generally help people. So, if it's someone like a police officer or self defense then yeah, why not? Gangsters who go around killing for their own benefit and pride? Hell no.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:59 AM

In this instance. There is no black or white. It's a gray area. I for one, would probably kill for money. I guess it would just depend upon the circumstances.

I don't remember who said this but maybe it could be,"Kill one, save a thousand." Mayve it si

Soldiers, soldiers fight for the protection their people, or for glory. They fight for just, or belief. Some fight on the front lines, others in the shadow. They fight, they kill, sometimes, they continue to kill. They go home to see the broken homes they left.

I guess, ill think about this. That is probably one of the most intresting questions I have heard in awhile.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:44 AM

If he/she is killing in the act of self defense, I can understand that. But if he/she is going out and killing people for the heck of it, then I'm going to start being hesitant and probably say no.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:48 AM

Police are still murderers.
No matter how you look at it.
If you take someone's life away,
you killed them. Hence, you are a murderer.

And it doesn't matter if you
were trying to protect yourself, or others.

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Anyway, for the question. Yes, I could.
But it comes down to who my bf killed,
and how he killed them.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:02 AM

Everyone is capable of murder, myself included.
It would depend on the situation, of course.
But I can't shut out the possibility completely, although I'm sure it would be really stressful to be in a serious relationship with that individual.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:12 PM


Just a plain killer/homicide suspect? NO.
I'd be too paranoid =/
It'd be different if we're together then he kills someone..
but that would depend on the situation/people/etc.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:08 PM

I like the idea about the police business.
It reminds me of Dexter, that TV show. Where he's a killer but he's working for the police... well, he's more of a CSI-person, but he kills people who have comitted crimes, so isn't that same concept as a police officer? (I said that bluntly, I mean, isn't that the same objective for a police offer when the worst gets to the worse... and plus, most murders either get life so... it's the same idea, sort of)
If a normal person of the public decides to go out and do a police officers job, they'd get prosecuted, took to court and probably end up in a psycho-ward after.
Hmm... someone should make a topic on that.

Anyways, back to the main topic at hand...
It would depend on the circumstances. If it was a killing out of cold blood, hm... I'm not so sure.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:32 PM

yeah, i think it'd be a turn on.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:37 PM

If only he killed for a good reason. No random serial killers plz.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:00 PM

no i wouldn't, unless the person killed the other person accidently, like in self-defense. But if the person actually planned the to kill, then that's scary, so no way.

And how can you compare the police with crimiinals? o_o that is so wrong. Police kill people to protect the citizens, while the criminals are doing it to harm the innocent...that's a major difference there..
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:02 PM

Yes, for the righteous reasons.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:36 PM

I think it depends on why he killed another human being, and if it is for the right reasons.

But on the issue of if it's a police man or a criminal doing the killing...there is a difference. One is trying to protect society while the other is doing harm. And really, the police is only going to try to capture the criminal. They will kill a criminal if their own life is in danger. That's self protection...if they don't kill the criminal, they will get killed themselves.

And here is another thought, what if someone killed another human being while fighting war for their country. That is another one to think about. Does that justify killing?
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