Westerns Saying "jαp, Chin, Viet, Flip And Chink"
#1
Posted 24 March 2009 - 06:40 PM
Anyway,
My friends and I say jαp, chin, viet, flip all the time but when a western person says "Are you jαp? Chin? Viet?" it just sounds rude..?
And do you consider chink a racist word? Like when a western says, "Hey Chink!", "Be quiet Chink", do you get offended?
I heard it's suppose to be like, the "n word" version for Chinese people...?
#2
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:40 PM
#3
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:44 PM
If ppl come up to me and asked out of curiosity if I were Flip then neh I don't mind but if it's in an insulting way then hell yeah.
#4
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:51 PM
#5
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:55 PM
They're just Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese and Filipino abbreviated.
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#7
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:59 PM
If ppl come up to me and asked out of curiosity if I were Flip then neh I don't mind but if it's in an insulting way then hell yeah.
I think it's okay to refer objects to their short form, but when you're describing someone's race/language/etc, you shouldn't
#8
Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:01 PM
#9
Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:14 PM
Like if they're just asking something or getting lazy! rofl. ♥
When they're shouting insults...
Now -THAT'S- another story.
#10
Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:31 PM
well saying chink is not really meant to be offensive.
sometimes, it's meant to be a joke. but it really depends on the person.
i mean...i don't see anything wrong with it.
flip, viet, chin, japanese etc... is just the abbreviation of the actual word.
nothing rude about it...
#11
Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:32 PM
i'm vietnamese and i don't get offended when people call me viet and my chinese friend goes around calling himself a chink
but one time i was on a japanese drama forum, i was lazy so i typed out j a p and this one guy like totally flipped out and started
calling me a racist white monkey and i was like "dude, chill. i'm asian." and he was like "OH SORRY FORGIVE ME" .. i mean wtf.
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#12
Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:49 PM
#13
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:02 PM
Chink, if you're referencing towards a person of Asian descent...most specifically Chinese. That term has a racist history and is considered racist by many. japanese has that as well, but I can understand if you're just using it as a shorten term.
I have never heard anything about the term Viet being a racist term. There's other racist terms that have been used to acknowledge Viets.
Flip also has a history, as the military used to label Filipinos ..Flip which stood for "F***** Little Island People". However, there are many younger generation of Fil-Ams who use it to sound "cool".
If you're using these terms among your friends, who are not offended, it's understandable. However, I would recommend not to use these terms openly, especially with people you don't know.
Most likely the younger generation are using the words just trying to joke around, but what they think is funny isn't always funny to others.
They're just Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese and Filipino abbreviated.
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How is Japanese abbreviated for Japanese?
#14
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:20 PM
It's the filters, you can't say j-a-p, the filters will just automatically write it as japanese
#15
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:24 PM
oh i see, ironic. Chink isn't filtered, but j.a.p-anese is? How did u get it in the title?
#16
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:32 PM
^ the "a" is a special character.
IwishIwasKorean: hahah. the term flip is often misused by fil-ams these days.
it annoys the heck out of me @_@ cuz im filipino and i find it...somewhat offending? lol.
#17
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:39 PM
i'm vietnamese and i don't get offended when people call me viet and my chinese friend goes around calling himself a chink
but one time i was on a japanese drama forum, i was lazy so i typed out j a p and this one guy like totally flipped out and started
calling me a racist white monkey and i was like "dude, chill. i'm asian." and he was like "OH SORRY FORGIVE ME" .. i mean wtf.
Well, yeah. The word ' j a p ' was used during the second world war.
Just because it sounds like a short form for japanese, doesn't mean you should use it, because it can translate to another meaning too.
And Japanese people take it very serious so I don't blame him for not "chilling". I know I wouldn't be "chilling" if someone said chink, or if you called a black person the n word, etc.
Chink, if you're referencing towards a person of Asian descent...most specifically Chinese. That term has a racist history and is considered racist by many. japanese has that as well, but I can understand if you're just using it as a shorten term.
I have never heard anything about the term Viet being a racist term. There's other racist terms that have been used to acknowledge Viets.
Flip also has a history, as the military used to label Filipinos ..Flip which stood for "F***** Little Island People". However, there are many younger generation of Fil-Ams who use it to sound "cool".
If you're using these terms among your friends, who are not offended, it's understandable. However, I would recommend not to use these terms openly, especially with people you don't know.
Most likely the younger generation are using the words just trying to joke around, but what they think is funny isn't always funny to others.
I don't think anyone should use the short term for any race, like I said: I think it's okay to refer objects to their short form, but when you're describing someone's race/language/etc, you shouldn't.
Just because the word j a p is in Japanese, doesn't mean you should use the short form. It's a totally different meaning. It's like if the N word was part of the African American name, would you use the "N" word as the short form?
#18
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:45 PM
^ the "a" is a special character.
IwishIwasKorean: hahah. the term flip is often misused by fil-ams these days.
it annoys the heck out of me @_@ cuz im filipino and i find it...somewhat offending? lol.
Oh I see.
About the term Flip being used today, don't even get me started. I also have Filipino in my family heritage.
But there's a lot of topics in itself about Filipino identity, and other Filipinos have spoken up about it as well. So I'll just agree with you
#19
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:48 PM
About the term Flip being used today, don't even get me started. I also have Filipino in my family heritage.
But there's a lot of topics in itself about Filipino identity, and other Filipinos have spoken up about it as well. So I'll just agree with you
But it's okay to say flip right? Because like you said, you can understand if you're just using it as a shorten term.
#20
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:55 PM
I hope the mods do not suspend us for this because it seems we're trying to have a civil discussion, and not trying to offend anyone.
I think the people who use it for short term, probably just don't care to say the name in it's entirety. The "N" word has different contexts as well. Like for example the "er" vs the "a" at the end. The younger generation, and in the West Coast it seems, tend to use the term "hello kitty" more openly...whether it's black, white, asian, latino...I've seen many of them just use it.
Also take Fat Joe vs J-Lo example, Fat Joe use the term hello kitty but nobody cares. When J-Lo used it, people were really upset. So there is a double-standard as well.
I think what's also interesting is that people are more likely to understand the situation when it's about black people feeling someone is racist towards them. However, when Asians have an issue more people more likely will have the "Get over it attitude".
For example, Rosie O'donnell...Spanish Basketball Team picture.



















