[longbong]

it was once said by a controversial figure, "to lower crime rate, abort all black babies in America".

empirical studies show that abortion tends to reduce crime rate.

however, i think its quite sickening hearing some chicks talking very loud on the bus about how they abort their babies, like going to the hair salon. so u'd rather kill a life because u couldnt keep ur pants on or afford condoms.

as much as this disgusts me, i believe, those ppl's babies would probably grow up to be criminals.

[daisy]

That quote is more about racism than abortion. Otherwise why would anyone single out black babies? Where is this empirical evidence you speak of? I've never heard of any correlation relating abortion and crime rate.

[longbong]

have u read freakonomics

[Phaze5ive]

have u read freakonomics

I was about to ask the same.

I once thought about this. I'm all for abortions, not just black babies.

[carebear]

I was about to ask the same.

I once thought about this. I'm all for abortions, not just black babies.

Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same thing as yall when I saw the title. I think the concept of abortion helps to maintain society.. but I'm totally against it being used in lieu of contraception

[ching22194]

Yeah, like reducing a crime by committing a crime..that's pretty lame

[Prot]

Ever watch the movie Idiocracy? Also correlation and association doesn't mean causation.

it was once said by a controversial figure, "to lower crime rate, abort all black babies in America".

I know for a fact that humans commit crimes, why don't we just jail everyone up the moment they are born so they can't commit crimes? Awesome idea too right?

[dambim]

Ever watch the movie Idiocracy? Also correlation and association doesn't mean causation.

isn't abortion a crime, reducing crime rate only by increasing welfare

[colloquy]

Yeah, like reducing a crime by committing a crime..that's pretty lame

Except abortion isn't a crime...

I don't really see how abortion itself reduces crime rate, though, especially when there's readily available contraceptives.

[papasmurf]

BOONDOCK SAINTS is the way to minimize crime

[little mixed girl]

uhm, well if i go by the OP's reasoning, japan must be pretty safe cuz a pretty good number of abortions are performed here, too.

[[HyuNi]]

OP... are you avante?

That 'empirical study' was proven to be flawed because there were too many variables that could have impacted the adoptee/orphan.

With that said, I personally think it *could* impact the crime rate marginally.
I'm a firm believer in the importance of parental love & guidance and for someone to not receive, much less never know what that is, I'd determine that it would be hard to define one's character/morals/beliefs.

I would never consider abortion, but I understand why some women go through with it. What I don't understand is how someone can dictate someone's personal decision. They will never know what that individual has gone through, the circumstances regarding their decision, and the mental/physical pain they have to carry for the rest of their lives. Also, if they do go through with birth, that individual carries the burden, whether to raise the child or give it up for adoption. The person who cries 'infant-killer' has no responsibility nor obligation to that child.

The better way, IMO would be to have a proactive stance, rather than reactive between two very difficult decisions. Instead of pushing abstinence and hoping for the best, maybe it could be more beneficial to be more realistic and educate others what options they have if they find themselves in the heat of the moment

[Mick]

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i do not like to think when i post.

While your topic may have had merit if you talked about teens or lower income mothers aborting their babies in order to progress towards a more stable lifestyle where they would be more adept at raising children, you open with blatant racism which removes any credibility you might have had.

[Tuffcore]

Why don't we just raise kids properly?

[Meenuh]

Why don't we just raise kids properly?

Agreed but it'd be harder to raise a kid properly when you didn't even/don't even want them in the first place so I can see this being a possibility but there are too many different things to factor in.

My bf told me about how they were thinking about charging the parents when their kids run around tagging on stuff. Dunno how reliable the bf's information is but anyone hear anything about that? I think it'd be a damn good idea.

[Raito!]

"to lower crime rate, abort all black babies in America".

isnt that racist? its implying that black ppl is the cause of crimes.

[the sweetest prince]

I'm all for abortion if it means less 50 cents out in the world.

[UoMDeacon]

Ding ding ding ding
There's a massive difference between correlation and causation. This fact is lost on a lot of people. That's the whole point that the chapter in Freakonomics made, but everyone just took the abortion = lower crime rate and ran with it.

+10 points for mentioning the movie Idiocracy. Hilarious movie
BRAWNDO...THE THIRST MUTILATOR!!!!

Ever watch the movie Idiocracy? Also correlation and association doesn't mean causation.


I know for a fact that humans commit crimes, why don't we just jail everyone up the moment they are born so they can't commit crimes? Awesome idea too right?

[rms13515]

Does abortion reduce crime rate? No people = no crime. Makes sense to me.

[SongBird]

It's hard to say, of course less people = less crime, and there are evidence that shows that kids who have proper upbringing are less likely to commit crimes. The most horrifying crimes, from law classes and the A&E shows that I've seen were committed by white people, Charles Manson, Paul Bernardo, Robert Pickton, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Columbine kids, corporate crimes... slavery, just playing all people made another group their slaves at some point in time. But yeah... the quote about aborting black babies to lower crime rate sucks and doesn't hold up.

Education needs to be given into poor neighborhoods, public services to help single parents make it out of ghettos and ending the cycle of poverty, providing job opportunities to people with lower education so they don't feel hopeless, and so on.

On the abortion note, I support it because I believe in giving people the right to choose for themselves what they want to do. When they start taking other people's right away, they are one step closer to taking my rights away, not to say that they should allow anyone to get god knows how many abortion procedures. Counseling and follow ups should be made mandatory for anyone who gets it done to make sure that they are at a healthy state of mind. If we made it legal we can control it, providing guidelines, giving help if needed ie. teenage mothers who need better contraceptive methods. How many times a person had got it done should be recorded and observed by health care providers. If the patterns are unhealthy, that person should be flagged and need to have some sort of fine or jail sentence because they are abusing the system. This way, we make sure that for one thing females are not risking their lives to get them done in a back alley somewhere and that they will be helped and educated. I find it ridiculous that sometimes a rape victim cannot abort a child being conceived that way. She was violated for crying out loud. Anywho, I'll just stop here.