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#1 User is offline   PatrickWolf 

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:57 AM

Well here's whats going on.

I'm doing this project for my English class
and basically
I'm doing

The Long Term Effects of IB Vs Ap


so I was wondering what do you feel about it
like which one is better and what not?


I've decided to do this a bit differently
a Q & A/ survey thingy


Help a fella out
and answer this questions please
for my stupid IB project
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Answer them as you think you should.
Thank you
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  1. Are you IB or AP or Both?

  2. Do you think you made the right choice
    doing IB or/and AP?


  3. Could you imagine yourself dropping out of
    IB or/and AP?


  4. If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB?


  5. Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why?


  6. Do you consider your workload considerably large?


  7. How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes?


  8. Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year?


  9. What do you think of IB and AP?


  10. Do you think its really worth it?





For non-AP and IB kids

Do you think you'll take AP or/and IB in the future?
Why?


or

Are you taking AP classes?
if yes or no why?

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:09 PM

http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=271578
there's a thread about it.

my school only offers AP. i heard from an IB friend of mine, that it was harder than AP, which idk, because she's never taken AP. but IB stands for International B-something, so she told me that it meant if you wanted to apply to colleges in different countries, then it's the same as taking a college course there. but AP is only equivalent to a college course in america.

so i guess a long term effect would be, IB is more helpful if you're applying out of the country.

hope that helped.

edit// sorry if the info in here is inaccurate. i don't know much concerning IB.
i hate when there's a seemingly interesting story but i can't read through it because the writing is SO. BAD.
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:15 PM

well are you asking a college kid?
because im an IB victim now heheh (International Baccalaureate)
I'm a junior in the IB program
for the program, we have IB classes, but they cover AP materials too, so we're able to take AP tests
(i took AP US history last year, AP calc BC, AP Language and Composition and AP Euro this year)
for IB, it's a lot more stressful because not only do you have to be able to stay on top of your homework, you also do a lot of independent research and studies (like internal assessments for each subject matter, and not to mention EXTENDED ESSAY!) outside, so you barely have the time to do much else
additionally, in my school at least, you are REQUIRED to take the AP tests also, and IB tests are 4283409328 times harder since it's internally and/or externally assessed
the biggest weight is that once you're in, you can't drop down, and if you fail ONE IB test, despite having perfect markings (7) on all of your other tests, you don't get your IB diploma :/
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:25 PM

You can still get your IB diploma if you fail an IB test... but you have to have a certain number of points over all. I think it's 24 with passing grades in all your HL classes and 28 if you fail an HL test? I've had this explained to me so many times and I don't listen, haha...

Like someone else said, IB classes are supposed to make it easier to go abroad for college. My friend tried to go to Australia using her IB credits... she didn't end up going, but the point is that she COULD have.

Iit's generally easier to get credit for AP classes. Most schools take 4/5s for almost all AP classes (even 3s for some), but most also only take 6/7s for HL classes. SL classes get noooo respect in the US, haha. However, there are some colleges that REALLY like the IB program. They weren't any I was interested in, so I don't remember any details...

However, I think IB is a more well-rounded program. My teachers swear up and down that we'll be ahead of everyone else in college because of the extended easy, internal assessments, etc. All I know is that after TOK, I can talk circles around my friends in philosophical debates, haha.

OH!

One interesting effect of IB at my school is a sense of community. A lot of the people who take AP classes only take one or two, but most who take IB classes are going for a diploma, so I'm basically in the same classes with the same people all day long, and we're all pretty much friends at this point (seniors!!). I'm sure the social aspects of IB vs. AP are different at all schools, but that's one really significant effect at my school... a lot of people shy away from IB here because it's basically a school within a school... you might be able to do something with that. :]
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Posted 08 April 2009 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (noonoodabamf @ Apr 7 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well are you asking a college kid?
because im an IB victim now heheh (International Baccalaureate)
I'm a junior in the IB program
for the program, we have IB classes, but they cover AP materials too, so we're able to take AP tests
(i took AP US history last year, AP calc BC, AP Language and Composition and AP Euro this year)
for IB, it's a lot more stressful because not only do you have to be able to stay on top of your homework, you also do a lot of independent research and studies (like internal assessments for each subject matter, and not to mention EXTENDED ESSAY!) outside, so you barely have the time to do much else
additionally, in my school at least, you are REQUIRED to take the AP tests also, and IB tests are 4283409328 times harder since it's internally and/or externally assessed
the biggest weight is that once you're in, you can't drop down, and if you fail ONE IB test, despite having perfect markings (7) on all of your other tests, you don't get your IB diploma :/


What do you mean internally and externally assessed
like questions where you answer in front of a panel?

omg i heard that
which is one of the main reasons
tried to get out of IB


QUOTE (coqui42 @ Apr 7 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can still get your IB diploma if you fail an IB test... but you have to have a certain number of points over all. I think it's 24 with passing grades in all your HL classes and 28 if you fail an HL test? I've had this explained to me so many times and I don't listen, haha...

Like someone else said, IB classes are supposed to make it easier to go abroad for college. My friend tried to go to Australia using her IB credits... she didn't end up going, but the point is that she COULD have.

Iit's generally easier to get credit for AP classes. Most schools take 4/5s for almost all AP classes (even 3s for some), but most also only take 6/7s for HL classes. SL classes get noooo respect in the US, haha. However, there are some colleges that REALLY like the IB program. They weren't any I was interested in, so I don't remember any details...

However, I think IB is a more well-rounded program. My teachers swear up and down that we'll be ahead of everyone else in college because of the extended easy, internal assessments, etc. All I know is that after TOK, I can talk circles around my friends in philosophical debates, haha.

OH!


you can still get the diploma if
you don't pass on exam

*Rawr* time to research more

so would you say you fell more prepared for college?

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One interesting effect of IB at my school is a sense of community. A lot of the people who take AP classes only take one or two, but most who take IB classes are going for a diploma, so I'm basically in the same classes with the same people all day long, and we're all pretty much friends at this point (seniors!!). I'm sure the social aspects of IB vs. AP are different at all schools, but that's one really significant effect at my school... a lot of people shy away from IB here because it's basically a school within a school... you might be able to do something with that. :]


yeah, my friend told me about that
and how they like pretty much
pass the hw and what not around
cause they see each other all day
thought that was pretty neat
ahaha

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 11:40 AM

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What do you mean internally and externally assessed
like questions where you answer in front of a panel?


Every class has their own individual internal and external assessments (one for english, history, science/math etc..). We have big projects where we have to give presentations and whatnot (which are graded internally by your teachers). Then we also have the external portion where we have to write essays or physically document the projects (ex: extended essay). These are then sent internationally to be graded by various IB people all over the world (hence external assessment). These assessments are usually done during the school year within the classes. So you do these assessments PLUS the IB tests a the end of the year (which I believe are externally assessed as well).

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you can still get the diploma if
you don't pass on exam


This is correct to an extent. The IB tests are graded on a 7 scale. You have both Standard Level and Higher Level tests. If you get a 2 (or 3 I forgot which) on one standard level test you need at least one five on another standard level to balance it out. But if you get a 2 on one standard and another 2 on another standard then you can't get your diploma. It's a balancing game. However, if you get a 2 on any of your higher levels you can't get your diploma.

1. Are you IB or AP or Both?
- Both
2. Do you think you made the right choice doing IB or/and AP?
- AP got me more college credits but I think IB taught me more life lessons so i don't regret my choices.
3. Could you imagine yourself dropping out of IB or/and AP?
- Well I'm in college already so...no? I mean, I've done IB since i was in sixth grade so =/ it'd be a waste to go through all that and not get my diploma.
4. If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB?
- I would have picked IB, even with all the work. Why? well IB honestly teaches you to be a lot more well rounded then AP. Sure, it may not give you as much college credits but in all honesty I think the knowledge you gain in the long run is a lot better. AP taught me a lot of cramming and useless mini cooper I don't need in real life. IB taught me how to write essays, give presentations, study properly, manage stress and manage my time which are skills that will actually benefit me in life. Also, as someone mentioned before, the IB community is a lot more close knit then AP. You're pretty much with the same people for two years so you develop a lot of long term familial bonds. So overall IB gives you more then just useless facts to be memorized (and forgotten) for some standardized test.
5. Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why?
- I believe I answered this in the last question.
6. Do you consider your workload considerably large?
- In IB? or AP? The IB workload was a lot but not unreasonable. AP was relatively the same minus the big projects and assessments. There were a lot less essays, presentations and projects in AP but I think that's a downside of AP.

Ohhhhh wait you mean college? College workload isn't bad, to be honest. A lot of it just has to do with managing your time right and actually sitting down to do your work (which can be hard with all the potential distractions). Honestly college is a lot of cramming before tests and whatnot. Your grades pretty much depend on your tests, projects/essays and quizzes.
7. How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes?
- It's different. But similar. You don't really have to worry about all the busy work. Colleges get straight to the point in grading you pretty much on what you know. They usually don't take attendance and don't grade hmwk assignments (depend on professors). Honestly I think the IB classes are what helped me in the long run. Because they taught me how to manage my time and study without stressing out. So college really isn't that bad for me.
8. Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year?
- .........yes? O_O?
9. What do you think of IB and AP?
- answered already
10. Do you think its really worth it?
- Yes. They're both great programs it's just what you want to get out of it and how much you can handle. Contrary to what other people said, I had a life outside of IB. I took full IB classes, had two jobs, VP of diversity leadership, secretary of IB student union and I was varsity tennis team. And the thing is, I know people who have done more then me. I personally think it's all perspective. If you think you can do it, you can do it. I have friends who were not, by all means, geniuses. But they worked hard and graduated with and IB diploma. And honestly I think it's those who worked hard who are better off in life now. It doesn't matter which program you do, if you make the best of it, then it will always be worth it.
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Posted 08 April 2009 - 01:58 PM

omg
I've been mislead
Totally didn't know that

Thanks for the info


But i would love more replies
lol

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:28 PM

1. Are you IB or AP or Both? I'm in Honors and AP, school's weird. It doesn't have IB.

2. Do you think you made the right choice doing IB or/and AP? Yeah. I like the people in it. Intelligent and comical environment, but the teachers at my school aren't so great.


3. Could you imagine yourself dropping out of IB or/and AP? Nah..I'm determined, and I'm a perfectionist so I'll stay up late no matter what. Sometimes I don't even really get the grade I want on the paper or test, but it's okay, it's over. I procrastinate, but I always have to get things done.


4. If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB? Originally, I thought that I should've gone w/ IB at a dif school. This year, after hearing the complaints about IB from my IB friends, I'm kind of glad I didn't choose it. I'm not a presentation/essay-type of person so it would've been really stressful for me to go through IB. I like taking tests better...well, as long as it's not timed.


5. Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why? IB. It prepares you better for college since you learn a lot of time management. Better preparation, but more stress. The workload will prepare you better for the future since you have to write more essays and do more presentations and whatnot.


6. Do you consider your workload considerably large? Yes. But AP and honors consist of a lot of crazy busy work. It stresses me out because the workload is endless. There are always multiple projects and assignments going on at the same time. I hate reading because I tend to read veryyyyy slow in order to memorize like every petty detail.


7. How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes? Uhh.....probably less stressful work than IB considering they seem to have more beneficial, time-consuming assignments instead of the busy, useless, time-consuming work. IB tests require more studying imo


8. Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year? Nope. Not taking AP English test b/c the teacher's not that great and I read really slow...sometimes I write slow, too...depending on how much I know about the topic. I'm kind of screwed for AP Calc BC right now. Teacher teaches so slow and basic so whenever I look at practice exams, I blank out. Waiting for my AP study book to come home. Got a 4 on the AP Calc AB test last year. Absolutely didn't study at all...and then I just found out two months ago that I need a 5 in order for it to transfer to the school I'm going to. I really need to study this year.


9. What do you think of IB and AP? AP-nice to get college credits easily. IB-tougher but prepares you better for your future (well, despite the fact that your GPA might look terrible to colleges if it's unweighted... which could affect which college you're going to if you don't get straight A's)


10. Do you think its really worth it? Either one - If the teachers at the school are GREAT, then yeah, it's worth it. The student environments in both are good.
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 12:55 PM


# Are you IB or AP or Both? AP
# Do you think you made the right choice
doing IB or/and AP? Hell naw in fact, if I were to go back in time
I wouldn't take AP U.S. history

# Could you imagine yourself dropping out of
IB or/and AP? No because it feels like failure and my hella convincing guidance counselor
would pressure me to take it anyway

# If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB? AP still because
IB sounds stupid.

# Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why? AP because you get college credit if you
pass the exams

# Do you consider your workload considerably large? Nope
# How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes? I couldn't because I've never been in the
IB program

# Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year? I sure hope so.
# What do you think of IB and AP? AP is stressful. IB, no idea about
# Do you think its really worth it? Sure.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 01:11 PM

With my school, there's only like 2-4 actual IB classes ie Theory of Knowledge. All the IB kids just take AP classe, but have to do extra things to satisfy IB requirements

Are you IB or AP or Both?
AP

Do you think you made the right choice
doing IB or/and AP?
Yes especially because I'm getting college credit. Thank you AP

Could you imagine yourself dropping out of
IB or/and AP?
I have only dropped one AP class and that was AP Govt.

If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB?
Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why?
I would've still picked AP. I've never planned on going to a school outside the States and the colleges in my state don't even really consider kids with IB diplomas more than others.

Do you consider your workload considerably large?
How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes?
My workload is pretty small. I do a lot more studying than actual homework.

Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year?
Definitely.

What do you think of IB and AP?
Do you think its really worth it?

I think IB is a waste of time. Especially when 99.9% of the IB kids in my school say so. They're learning the same stuff as the AP kids, but they just have more projects, essays, etc.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 02:38 PM

Do you think you'll take AP or/and IB in the future?
Why?

i'm going to be a sophomore and to be prepared for IB i'm taking US world history AP. i'm aiming for IB because it be hard and tough, but isn't life like that. i mean in the end it's all going to be worth it and even if i don't get a complete diploma as least i know i did my best and didn't give up.
plus, all the officers for famous clubs like, interact, red cross , key club, etc. are senors who are finishing up IB.
not to mention they're almost in the same classes and activities.
doing sports, ASB, clubs, JROTC, etc. honey if they can handle all that i think anyone can as long as you put the time and dedication.


Are you taking AP classes?
if yes or no why?

yes, to be prepared and to really get credits for it.
afterwards i can still decide if i want to take IB


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Posted 21 April 2009 - 08:43 PM

1. Are you IB or AP or Both?
AP, school does not offer IB

2. Do you think you made the right choice
doing IB or/and AP?
Totally. GPA goes up and I get credits for college.


3. Could you imagine yourself dropping out of
IB or/and AP?

No. It's too late even if I wanted to.


4. If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB?
Cannot choose, only took APs.


5. Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why?
No opinion.


6. Do you consider your workload considerably large?
No. But schools in more competitive areas.... their regular classes give the same amount (and more) of work as our AP classes, and there are still many people at our school that pass the AP exams.


7. How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes?
No...? What?


8. Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year?
Yes. I bought study books this time around.


9. What do you think of IB and AP?
It's effing easy at our school, little to almost no homework, a few big projects, etc. and we can still pass the tests.


10. Do you think its really worth it?
Yes. But only if you're going to a college that charges a lot for the credits. LOL JK. YES IT'S WORTH IT. I get to skip some college classes.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 11:52 AM

Are you IB or AP or Both?
IB (certificates, not diploma)

Do you think you made the right choice doing IB or/and AP?
yepp

Could you imagine yourself dropping out of IB or/and AP?
nope

If you could, would you have picked IB instead of AP or AP instead of IB?
No, I would have gone with IB either way.

Which do you think is better for you IB or AP? Why?
IB because I think it helps people prepare for college better than AP...?

Do you consider your workload considerably large?
yes

How would you compare it to the IB or AP classes?
From what I've heard/seen, AP does a lot more busy work.

Do you think you'll be prepared for exam at the end of the year?
haha um...I'm sure that I will at least pass them, if barely.

What do you think of IB and AP?
I like IB. It forces me to think even if I'm bsing everything that I do lol
Ap - dunno.

Do you think its really worth it?
Yeap. If I wasn't taking IB I would be in class with a bunch of slackers and school would be pointless.
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