[mrskimjinho]

(((Edit #2)))
First off, thank you, Aziraphale, for not outright closing the thread (although I was pretty much expecting it after all the bashing) and giving myself and others the chance to respond to the thread as it was intended. But of course you're more than welcome to close it if the thread still doesn't get anything other than pointless bashing.
Some things I have to point out:
1) I am NOT trying to change your views regarding homosexuality. All I ask is that you read/answer the questions with an open mind and perhaps see things from a different perspective, regardless of whether or not you agree. Is that so hard?
2) Yes, I am fully aware that #21 can raise some religious issues. Please understand that I'm not stopping anyone from responding to that question with references to their religious beliefs. BUT if you are going to answer ALL questions with religious preaching or completely disregard all other questions but that one and say something along the lines that homosexuality is wrong, THEN I will have a BIG problem with that (as will many others).
3) With some of the responses, I have had to reiterate an important point of this questionnaire: THESE QUESTIONS ARE THE REWORDED EQUIVALENTS OF ACTUAL QUESTIONS ASKED BY HETEROSEXUALS TO HOMOSEXUALS. Please don't tell me that you think the questions are biased, because that's the whole point of this questionnaire: for you the realize just how stupid and biased the thoughts of some heterosexuals can be toward homosexuals.
4) There will be NO TOLERANCE of homophobic responses of ANY KIND. They are completely uncalled for and will be going completely against the whole point of this thread.




This is a questionnaire that one of my professors gave to my Queer Studies class.
They're the heterosexual equivalents of questions that are normally asked to the homosexual community, and it really turns your perspective around (or at least I thought so).

If you're heterosexual, try answering these to yourself (or post them up, if you like).

But I'd at least like to know how reading these questions make you feel.

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?
3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?
4. Could it be that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
5. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how can you be sure you wouldn’t prefer that?
6. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?
9. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they’d face?
10. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual men. Do you consider it safe to expose children to heterosexual male teachers, pediatricians, priests, or scoutmasters?
11. With all the societal support for marriage, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
14. Could you trust a heterosexual therapist to be objective? Don’t you fear s/he might be inclined to influence you in the direction of her/his own leanings?
15. Heterosexuals are notorious for assigning themselves and one another rigid, stereotyped sex roles. Why must you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?
16. With the sexually segregated living conditions of military life, isn’t heterosexuality incompatible with military service?
17. How can you enjoy an emotionally fulfilling experience with a person of the other sex when there are such vast differences between you? How can a man know what pleases a woman sexually or vice-versa?
18. Shouldn’t you ask your far-out straight cohorts, like skinheads and born-agains, to keep quiet? Wouldn’t that improve your image?
19. Why are heterosexuals so promiscuous?
20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?
21. How can you hope to actualize your God-given homosexual potential if you limit yourself to exclusive, compulsive heterosexuality?
22. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. After all, you never deliberately chose to be a heterosexual, did you? Have you considered aversion therapy or Heterosexuals Anonymous?


Love comes in many different forms. No one has the right to deprive anyone else the right to love.

[chopstick^^]

21. How can you hope to actualize your God-given homosexual potential if you limit yourself to exclusive, compulsive heterosexuality?

God didn't give u homeosexual potential. He doesn't want u to be a homo, but he gave u free-will. You choose to be what u want, but he know what's best for u. And that is not to be a homo. Because if everyone in this planet is a homo, every single 1. Everyone will die and the human life cycle will not continue.

But if everyone in this whole planet is hetero. the human life cycle can continue. Life can continue.

But the questions are stupid anyways, because .. u can't say that just because people are attracted to opposite gender it means they the only one who think about sex. Ain't homo also think of sex too? ..

And not everyone think about it like 24/7. Don't need to make the none gay people sound like creepy perverts.

11. With all the societal support for marriage, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

Because that is their problem. Why doe's it has to concern me, if people didn't find the right match? .. Not everyone end up in divorce. You should look up the reason why people divorce, there a reason for everything & it's not because they not gay. And gay people want marriage themselves too. So?

You can have a family if ur not gay. If ur gay, u can't! Instead.... they will be taking someone elses family as their own: adopting someone else's child. Don't tell me they support family splitting up, so they can adopt? .. Wouldn't it be nice, if there isn't any orphans and adoption, so all child can be with their parents. But because of bad circumstances they have to be an orphan...

[mrskimjinho]

what is heterosexual? .. is this same as homo?

hetero = you're attracted to people of the opposite sex
homo = you're attracted to people of the same sex

[Babiebim]

thank you SO much for posting this.

but i have a feeling that theres gonna be some serious arguing in here.
thanks though.

[ny-sw / ny_sw.]

This is definitely interesting. Opened my eyes up a bit and now I can understand how people who are homosexual feel..
Sad that we have to single them out in this society. :/

[Meenuh]

5. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how can you be sure you wouldn’t prefer that?

Rofl. Reminds me of this one comedian that was saying how gay guys were always trying to turn him gay. They'd ask him stuff like question #5 and say "well, how do you know~?" hahah.

[i_4got]

21. How can you hope to actualize your God-given homosexual potential if you limit yourself to exclusive, compulsive heterosexuality?

God didn't give u homeosexual potential. He doesn't want u to be a homo, but he gave u free-will. You choose to be what u want, but he know what's best for u. And that is not to be a homo. Because if everyone in this planet is a homo, every single 1. Everyone will die and the human life cycle will not continue.

FAIL.
Every single person has the potential to be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual. I don't think you understand the definition of the word "potential". To have the "potential" to be a homosexual does not mean you are "destined" to be a homosexual; it just means you are able to become one if you choose so. Anyway, that question was just rephrased based on a questionnaire written by hetero (and biased) sociologists.

He doesn't want u to be a homo, but he gave u free-will.

FAIL.
God also wanted human beings to help their fellow man. But every single day, children are starving around the world while we drive our cars, watch TV, and indulge in a narcissistic lifestyle. You're telling me you're doing everything your God wanted you to? Chances are, every single person reading this is going to hell simply because you're having fun on the Internet instead of helping out in your community. Stop telling people what God wanted them to do when you're as guilty as anyone else.

21. How can you hope to actualize your God-given homosexual potential if you limit yourself to exclusive, compulsive heterosexuality?

Because if everyone in this planet is a homo, every single 1. Everyone will die and the human life cycle will not continue.

FAIL.
You ever heard of in vitro fertilization? Some gay male couples partner with female couples to have biological babies together. Sure, it's unorthodox, but these couples treasure their families so much more than many straight couples because they had to work so hard to get their family. Many straight parents take their families for granted. Ask yourself this: How many times have you heard news about a parent abusing/hurting their families? Now how many times have you heard news about a gay parent doing the same to their child (whether adopted or born otherwise)? I'm not saying gay individuals are inherently better at parenting, but they're doing much better than many straight couples in our society.

I'm a heterosexual male, but I don't believe in gay bashing. It's uncalled for, and you religious fanatics should go learn some of that love and peace Jesus used to preach about. What happened to "Judge not lest ye be judged"? Stop being such a hypocrite and learn to love your fellow man. Jesus never judged anyone. I guess you must be a better person then.

[chopstick^^]

How many times have you heard news about a parent abusing/hurting their families?

What on earth have that got to do with being hetero? .. If they werent hetero, there wouldn't even be childrens? .. so how would gay people be able to adopt if there werent any hetero? .. Are u questioning ur own exisitence? .. u have parent's u know! Male & female parent!

God also wanted human beings to help their fellow man. But every single day, children are starving around the world while we drive our cars, watch TV, and indulge in a narcissistic lifestyle. You're telling me you're doing everything your God wanted you to? Chances are, every single person reading this is going to hell simply because you're having fun on the Internet instead of helping out in your community. Stop telling people what God wanted them to do when you're as guilty as anyone else.

Didn't u just said what God wanted? .. Well done on being a hypocrite. And i wasn't telling people what to do, i was answering the question which claimed that this is what God wanted, but it's not! You couldn't even quote that God wanted gaynss in the Bible?

It's uncalled for, and you religious fanatics should go learn some of that love and peace Jesus used to preach about. What happened to "Judge not lest ye be judged"? Stop being such a hypocrite and learn to love your fellow man. Jesus never judged anyone. I guess you must be a better person then.

Yes, Jesus never judge anyone. But he does hate things. And he hate's things/actions for a good reason & because of love. Not selfish love. If u disagree with me, then that u, i know i make sense.

[mrskimjinho]

21. How can you hope to actualize your God-given homosexual potential if you limit yourself to exclusive, compulsive heterosexuality?

God didn't give u homeosexual potential. He doesn't want u to be a homo, but he gave u free-will. You choose to be what u want, but he know what's best for u. And that is not to be a homo. Because if everyone in this planet is a homo, every single 1. Everyone will die and the human life cycle will not continue.

But if everyone in this whole planet is hetero. the human life cycle can continue. Life can continue.

Nowhere did that question say that EVERYONE should be one or the other; it's referring to the individual, not the entire population.
And the world is overpopulated as it is. The "human life cycle" is FAR from being in danger.

But the questions are stupid anyways, because .. u can't say that just because people are attracted to opposite gender it means they the only one who think about sex. Ain't homo also think of sex too? ..

And not everyone think about it like 24/7. Don't need to make the none gay people sound like creepy perverts.

I'm not understanding where you're getting this "thinking about it like 24/7" about sex. None of the questions nor my explanation of homo/hetero specifically stated that attraction was the same as sexual attraction. And you seem to be forgetting that these questions are the equivalents of questions that are asked of homosexual people. Don't you think they have the same complaint as you do that these questions make them "sound like creepy perverts"?

11. With all the societal support for marriage, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

Because that is their problem. Why doe's it has to concern me, if people didn't find the right match? .. Not everyone end up in divorce. You should look up the reason why people divorce, there a reason for everything & it's not because they not gay. And gay people want marriage themselves too. So?

Now take your answer, tweak it a bit, and switch the question to "why are there so few stable relationships among homosexuals?" Will you be surprised to know that homosexuals will have a similar response?

You can have a family if ur not gay. If ur gay, u can't! Instead.... they will be taking someone elses family as their own: adopting someone else's child. Don't tell me they support family splitting up, so they can adopt? .. Wouldn't it be nice, if there isn't any orphans and adoption, so all child can be with their parents. But because of bad circumstances they have to be an orphan...

So how do you define a "family"? Because I don't know about you, but family is where the home is, where you'll have unconditional love and support regardless of what your parents are or how many parents you have. So gay people take someone else's family? You seriously have something against gays selflessly adopting previously UNWANTED and ABANDONED children? You think they support families splitting up? Let me tell you something: biased, hateful, ignorant HETEROSEXUALS are the ones who are splitting up families on the basis that both parents, who are perfectly loving and capable of raising a child, are homosexual. Don't tell me you've never heard of court cases where the parents lost custody of a child just because the parents were gay, or even cases where hetero parents shunned their gay child out into the street because their religion taught them that homosexuality was a sin. Oh yes, of course it would be nice if there weren't any orphans and all children could be with their parents. But you know what has to happen first? HETEROSEXUAL parents need to stop abandoning children.

[badtzmaruholidays]

I took a similar class before and while I can see the point to these questions, they don't quite work for me. Because the answer to these questions in terms of heterosexuality can just be answered with reproduction and such. For example: why are heterosexuals so promiscuous? It's the emotional effect of a reproduction goal. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex? Because it's a sexual identity. Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual all are.

I really do understand the point of these questions but it just doesn't quite work the way they're meant to.

[mrskimjinho]

What on earth have that got to do with being hetero? .. If they werent hetero, there wouldn't even be childrens? .. so how would gay people be able to adopt if there werent any hetero? .. Are u questioning ur own exisitence? .. u have parent's u know! Male & female parent!

i know i make sense.

You can't never have heard about child abuse by hetero parents. NO ONE's rock is that big. I'm sorry, but your arguments are just have little or no basis, are incoherent and all over the place, and you bring up things that have absolutely nothing to do with the answer you're responding to. It's really difficult to even know where and what you're getting at.

And I'm going to ignore any and all religious comments.

[epark1281]

this is a pointless exercise. People will have their opinions. Posting up a questionare (that obviously guides the questions in a SPECIFIC direction) won't deter most individuals.
The nature vs. nurture debate has been going on for decades.
I still think that people have the right to choose.
I believe that those choices have an eternal concequence, others don't. That's ok. I have the right to choose, the right to choose to be respectful and decent.
But what I do have a problem with is that this questionare seems to assume that most Heterosexuals behave a certian way. I find that a bit offensive.
Not all individuals who believe that homosexuality is a choice "flaunt" their sexuality, nor do they "seduce" homosexuals into heterosexuality, nor do they "place an emphasis" on sex.
If you really considered homosexuals and heterosexuals the same, there wouldn't be a need for this questionare. If everybody were the same, afterall, there would be no reason to distinguish between homo and heterosexuals.

And I'm going to ignore any and all religious comments.

If you don't want religious comments, don't post religious questions.

[IlikeChicken]

I can tell you one thing

This is gonna be closed because of some bible thumpers/homophobes posting random crap at you

[P a p e r_C l i p]

Though this was certainly a different perspective on it,
it doesn't change my views or open my eyes at all.
A lot of these questions are pretty unfair,
& it's like asking 'when did you decide that you liked soda? what made you decide to like soda?'

Though i understand these questions might make a gay person feel uncomfortable, I don't really think they apply, they can be easily answered without bashing on either side.

[chopstick^^]

Nowhere did that question say that EVERYONE should be one or the other; it's referring to the individual, not the entire population. And the world is overpopulated as it is. The "human life cycle" is FAR from being in danger.

If 99% of the population is Gay. Gay people will say to that 1% who want to turn gay. No u can't! Because u got to make baby's so we can have adopted childrens! Selfish & hypocritical! ... If this gay person say, Yes u can turn gay! Then 100% the whole world is gay. And that is selfish love, because then everyone will die at the end, and no one will continue to live.

If i don't support it, then i wouldn't support it all the way! Why support it coz there's a few, but if everyone is gay, like 99% of the population. What are u going to do? .. Support or not support? Time to make up ur mind! Don't be a hypocrite! I think about "what if's".. and the population, i dnt just think of myself.

You can't just think about yourself, u need to think about everyone, which is what im doing.

Now take your answer, tweak it a bit, and switch the question to "why are there so few stable relationships among homosexuals?" Will you be surprised to know that homosexuals will have a similar response?

ohh, u make it sound like homosexual relationship lasted till they old.. have there been any proof? I met more old hetero couple's than homo. And if the relationship is unstable there could be plenty of reasons that doesn't have anything to do with "gender" .. It could be immature & young. Wasn't ready for marriage, met the wrong match, argurments, couple cheating etc... or they turned gay?

I'm not understanding where you're getting this "thinking about it like 24/7" about sex. None of the questions nor my explanation of homo/hetero specifically stated that attraction was the same as sexual attraction.

Question 12

I can tell you one thing

This is gonna be closed because of some bible thumpers/homophobes posting random crap at you

well, u sound unreasonble, so i dnt care wot u say.

Oh, im not going to botther replying in this thread. So you guy's can just think about the answer to the question. Instead of just agreeing. If u going to mention about God, then it's already a religious question.

[hippiehop]

Sounds like the exact same argument I've been using the convince people homosexuality is not wrong.

[mrskimjinho]

this is a pointless exercise. People will have their opinions. Posting up a questionare (that obviously guides the questions in a SPECIFIC direction) won't deter most individuals.
The nature vs. nurture debate has been going on for decades.
I still think that people have the right to choose.
I believe that those choices have an eternal concequence, others don't. That's ok. I have the right to choose, the right to choose to be respectful and decent.
But what I do have a problem with is that this questionare seems to assume that most Heterosexuals behave a certian way. I find that a bit offensive.
Not all individuals who believe that homosexuality is a choice "flaunt" their sexuality, nor do they "seduce" homosexuals into heterosexuality, nor do they "place an emphasis" on sex.
If you really considered homosexuals and heterosexuals the same, there wouldn't be a need for this questionare. If everybody were the same, afterall, there would be no reason to distinguish between homo and heterosexuals.


If you don't want religious comments, don't post religious questions.

I don't think you're getting the whole point of this. They're SUPPOSED to guide in one specific direction and suggest that heterosexuals behave in a certain way. That's exactly the type of attitude that homosexuals are treated on a daily basis by a lot of biased heteros, and the questionnaire is supposed to help you realize that.

And I didn't think people would completely disregard the other twenty questions and zero in on that one question and talk strictly about religion. I thought wrong.

[IlikeChicken]

Chopstick^^ - You obviously care since you just QUOTED me..wtf

And I sound unreasonable? How about read your reply first?

[epark1281]

I can tell you one thing

This is gonna be closed because of some bible thumpers/homophobes posting random crap at you

It's an inherently religious question.
The question of choice is the question of whether or not an individual is able to make, out of his/her own volition, a decision or if all things are predetermined by the expression of genetic material.
It's not JUST about sexuality.
What of alcoholism?
What about a genetic predisposition to violence?
One could ask the question, "is killing a choice?"
People may not like the comparison, but they are the same question.
Again, are we creatures bound by our DNA, or are we free and able to make arbitrary desicions that are not bound by our genetic predispositions?
And if it's a 50/50 proposition, what are the choices we are free to make?

I don't think you're getting the whole point of this. They're SUPPOSED to guide in one specific direction and suggest that heterosexuals behave in a certain way. That's exactly the type of attitude that homosexuals are treated on a daily basis by a lot of biased heteros, and the questionnaire is supposed to help you realize that.

Then get this, is it right then to judge heterosexuals because you feel they judge homosexuals?
Do two wrongs make a right?
If that's your whole entire point, then you are trying to "cure" a bias, WITH a bias.

*edit*
~sigh
I guess it's too much to ask for mature answers from a bunch of kids.

[chopstick^^]

Chopstick^^ - You obviously care since you just QUOTED me..wtf

And I sound unreasonable? How about read your reply first?

my reply is fine. I can read it again and again and it still make sense. But u .. u barely said anything.
But i dnt care wot u say coz wot u say won't make sense anyways.

And it be funny, if gay people question about hetero.. since they were born from hetero... If their parent's werent together, then there wouldn't be them. And now they saying hetero are bad.. But their parent's gave them live.

You can't never have heard about child abuse by hetero parents. NO ONE's rock is that big.

You totally don't make sense, if they werent hetero to begin with. They wouldn't have had a child born. Also child abuse have nothing to do with being hetero . It's to do with "personality" and "parenting".