[AzNsk8er4Lyfe]

Asian music..I used to listen to american..but now it's all korean and japanese these days

[jaejoong.ro02]

I agree , its such a bad arguement to use maintream American music as a reasoning to say how bad the american music industry is. Have these people ever listened to Lupe Fiasco( great hip hop artist, great lyrics), Common, Coheed & Cambria, Nas, Jordin Sparks, John Mayer etc... .

Are you kidding me that American uses too much auto tune ? Last time I heard 2PM's again and again was auto tuned, Super Junior's sorry sorry was auto tuned, Big Bang's Gara Gara Go was auto tuned, 2ne1's lollipop was pretty auto tuned as well. So dont act like Asian music is not guilty of it either.

And mentalfiction , you obviously dont listen to enough American music to say that the only artists that dont talk about sex is Disney artists. Because I can list many non-Disney American artists who dont sing about that. And dont say theres no more variety left in American music when you know pretty well that most Asian music today tend follow American music trends.(especially KPOP)

Dont get me wrong , I like both American and Asian music equally. But some people here use poor reasonings to hate.

Errr. You said

"Last time I heard 2PM's again and again was auto tuned, Super Junior's sorry sorry was auto tuned, Big Bang's Gara Gara Go was auto tuned, 2ne1's lollipop was pretty auto tuned as well. So dont act like Asian music is not guilty of it either."

I'll copy and paste this:
It's such a bad arguement to use maintream KPOP music as a reasoning to say how bad KPOP & the general asian music is.



American music is auto tune. Asian music is auto tune. But for me, Asian music deserves more respect than American music; lyrics wise.

[zantac_2]

^dude i think you mistook his point. he never said anything bad about asian music in general, let alone use mainstream kpop as a reason. he listed those asian bands/groups to only show us that they're also guilty of using auto tune. infact if you spent a little effort actually reading his reply, you would know his animosity towards the use of auto tune includes mainstream music in america as well.

[eternal_bliss]

Errr. You said

"Last time I heard 2PM's again and again was auto tuned, Super Junior's sorry sorry was auto tuned, Big Bang's Gara Gara Go was auto tuned, 2ne1's lollipop was pretty auto tuned as well. So dont act like Asian music is not guilty of it either."

I'll copy and paste this:
It's such a bad arguement to use maintream KPOP music as a reasoning to say how bad KPOP & the general asian music is.



American music is auto tune. Asian music is auto tune. But for me, Asian music deserves more respect than American music; lyrics wise.

He never said that the korean music industry is bad. Rather, he's just pointing out that they are just as guilty of using auto-tune as american artists.

As for auto-tune, at the start it was quite creative but eventually everyone started to jump on the bandwagon. Like Jay-Z said "It was a trend, it was cool in the beginning. Some people made great music with it, now it's time to move on."

You need to get out more, if that's what you listen to then of course you'd think music is all about sex. They're all mainstream...you're missing out.

Maybe b/c I don't limit myself but my musical interests vary from Bob Dylan to MJ to Flogging Molly to Pearl Jam etc. You can't limit your musical intrests to what you hear on the radio or see on mtv especially when it comes to rap and r&b.

Same here. I pretty much listen to what's good. From MJ to Nirvana to Bob Dylan to Radiohead. And there's plenty more. I don't mind mainstream pop songs as some of them do have really good beats and such but in the end, they're just a fun song to listen to. Nothing that'll impact me.

I prefer not necessarily american music but western music in general.

[Tonyc402]

Errr. You said

"Last time I heard 2PM's again and again was auto tuned, Super Junior's sorry sorry was auto tuned, Big Bang's Gara Gara Go was auto tuned, 2ne1's lollipop was pretty auto tuned as well. So dont act like Asian music is not guilty of it either."

I'll copy and paste this:
It's such a bad arguement to use maintream KPOP music as a reasoning to say how bad KPOP & the general asian music is.



American music is auto tune. Asian music is auto tune. But for me, Asian music deserves more respect than American music; lyrics wise.

Thanks for not reading my post correctly. Did I say how bad Asian music was ? No . I already stated that I like both equally . That reply is mostly towards TOKYOFEVER's point because she brings the point of how America uses auto tune too much as a reasoning for her dislike to American music. so I brang the point that Asian music is also guilty of it too. Im not just pointing fingers at KPOP .

And please tell me why Asian music deserves more respect in lyrics then American music? Deserving more respect for lyrics is dependent on the artist themselves . There will always be bad and good artists coming from Asian and American music.

[7:45am]

And please tell me why Asian music deserves more respect in lyrics then American music? Deserving more respect for lyrics is dependent on the artist themselves . There will always be bad and good artists coming from Asian and American music.

Ugh, SO true. Everyone is just using crappy mainstream American music as a comparison.

I personally prefer American music, specifically indie music. I don't like Asian music as much because it all seems too sweet? And [to me] it seems like their songs all use the same structure/formula?

[polka_dotts]

People are so butthurt about music. It's like, please, CHILL THE john tesh OUT. It's not a big deal if someone likes Top 40 stuff and someone's into the indie stuff. Or somebody likes Asian music and someone likes American music. Or someone likes music that talks about sex and someone doesn't. ETC. I feel like music has always been around to unite people and nowadays people are wayyy too quick to judge everyone by what they listen to and that's ruining what it's actually around for.

[jaejoong.ro02]

^dude i think you mistook his point. he never said anything bad about asian music in general, let alone use mainstream kpop as a reason. he listed those asian bands/groups to only show us that they're also guilty of using auto tune. infact if you spent a little effort actually reading his reply, you would know his animosity towards the use of auto tune includes mainstream music in america as well.

Well yeah he didn't say KPOP was bad but for me it's his way of saying it.

Thanks for not reading my post correctly. Did I say how bad Asian music was ? No . I already stated that I like both equally . That reply is mostly towards TOKYOFEVER's point because she brings the point of how America uses auto tune too much as a reasoning for her dislike to American music. so I brang the point that Asian music is also guilty of it too. Im not just pointing fingers at KPOP .

And please tell me why Asian music deserves more respect in lyrics then American music? Deserving more respect for lyrics is dependent on the artist themselves . There will always be bad and good artists coming from Asian and American music.

No you didn't say how bad it is but please don't use mainstream KPOP to generalize Asian music here.

What I'm trying to point is that why can't you accept that American music is also auto tune like KPOP? O________O


Talking about mainstream here, Asian lyrics deserves more respect. There might be respectable American lyrics out there but they are underground. What sells in America are those that I can't stand. Though they are catchy and all, Asian lyrics > Western.

[zantac_2]

^dude clear your head for a sec. he does accept the fact that american artists use auto tune as well.

not all good american song writers are underground. tori amos, tracy chapman, beck hansen and to a lesser extent dave mathews are perfect examples.

[Tonyc402]

Well yeah he didn't say KPOP was bad but for me it's his way of saying it.




No you didn't say how bad it is but please don't use mainstream KPOP to generalize Asian music here.

What I'm trying to point is that why can't you accept that American music is also auto tune like KPOP? O________O


Talking about mainstream here, Asian lyrics deserves more respect. There might be respectable American lyrics out there but they are underground. What sells in America are those that I can't stand. Though they are catchy and all, Asian lyrics > Western.

K , you obviously didnt read it clear enough again . Everyone understands what I meant except for you. I already KNOW and ACCEPT the fact that American music has autotune as well. I was not doubting TOKYOFEVER's response to her saying that American music uses too much autotune in the first place. I was just pointing out that Asian music is guilty of using it a lot too. Im not generalizing, Im just making a point . (Man , feel like im repeating myself here to a brickwall).

[Liinax3]

People would think I like asian music better ,but I actually like both :/ Sometimes I get sick of listening to asian music so I go listen to American music ,but When I'm sick of American music, I go back to Asian music. So I go back & forth LOL;

[visual-shock]

^
lol same here.

i like asian music more though, i like the lyrics and their topics more ^^
but i also like american music, since i understand what they are saying~! xDD

[F999KR]

I don't even understand Asian music, and I enjoy Asian over American.
Ever since 50 cent came on, it has totally sucked. I still listen to some of
it here and there, but nothing too exciting.

[mentalfiction]

I agree , its such a bad arguement to use maintream American music as a reasoning to say how bad the american music industry is. Have these people ever listened to Lupe Fiasco( great hip hop artist, great lyrics), Common, Coheed & Cambria, Nas, Jordin Sparks, John Mayer etc... .

Are you kidding me that American uses too much auto tune ? Last time I heard 2PM's again and again was auto tuned, Super Junior's sorry sorry was auto tuned, Big Bang's Gara Gara Go was auto tuned, 2ne1's lollipop was pretty auto tuned as well. So dont act like Asian music is not guilty of it either.

And mentalfiction , you obviously dont listen to enough American music to say that the only artists that dont talk about sex is Disney artists. Because I can list many non-Disney American artists who dont sing about that. And dont say theres no more variety left in American music when you know pretty well that most Asian music today tend follow American music trends.(especially KPOP)

Dont get me wrong , I like both American and Asian music equally. But some people here use poor reasonings to hate.

Well yeah, you see you're missing my point too. Like I said, I know there are exceptions out there. But a lot of the times it's really hard to find them.
I find kpop music 'cuz I hang around soompi.
I find american music 'cuz I watch TV
What do I see on TV? Sex sex and more sex.
I dunno any forum or website as big as soompi that is about all these 'unsung heroes' who dared to make a song that is not sex-related. How the hell am I supposed to listen to more songs by them? They are all mostly underground, I listen to a few underground artists, and their lyrics are usually amazing. Before, these songs used to be everywhere, now you just gotta dig deep to find them. Shows how media favoured sex over something worth listening to.
And like I said, all the others that don't talk about sex brand themselves rockstars. For a person that is a hardcore rock fan, that is just a pain in the a$$.
And also, I think why I say kpop has more variety is 'cuz of all the bubblegum pop (lol for some reason I lovee it) and I don't see any bubblegum pop in American music. If I do find one, the amount of cutesy-ness the artist tries to fit in to the one song just gives me shudders.
KPOP does follow American music, but at least they had the decency not to discuss sex in detail.
I don't hate American music, I hate whats mainstream lately.

[mrs.sierna]

american music. definitely.

there are still some asian songs that i like, but overall, it's american that i like.
it's mostly because asian music gets extremely repetitive to me and i hate it when they use english that doesn't make sense.
i especially get sick of korean songs very quickly.

[colloquy]

Well yeah, you see you're missing my point too. Like I said, I know there are exceptions out there. But a lot of the times it's really hard to find them.
I find kpop music 'cuz I hang around soompi.
I find american music 'cuz I watch TV
What do I see on TV? Sex sex and more sex.
I dunno any forum or website as big as soompi that is about all these 'unsung heroes' who dared to make a song that is not sex-related. How the hell am I supposed to listen to more songs by them? They are all mostly underground, I listen to a few underground artists, and their lyrics are usually amazing. Before, these songs used to be everywhere, now you just gotta dig deep to find them. Shows how media favoured sex over something worth listening to.
And like I said, all the others that don't talk about sex brand themselves rockstars. For a person that is a hardcore rock fan, that is just a pain in the a$$.
And also, I think why I say kpop has more variety is 'cuz of all the bubblegum pop (lol for some reason I lovee it) and I don't see any bubblegum pop in American music. If I do find one, the amount of cutesy-ness the artist tries to fit in to the one song just gives me shudders.
KPOP does follow American music, but at least they had the decency not to discuss sex in detail.
I don't hate American music, I hate whats mainstream lately.

Lol, this is one of the first times I've heard people complain about sex on American TV. I guess it's because Koreans are even more prudish in comparison. Believe me, European and even daytime (not usually primetime) Japanese TV has more sex than Americans do. I'm not exactly sure about what channels you're watching, but usually Americans just elude to sex or show them making out in the bed, they don't actually show anything like the Europeans do. Americans are more notorious for their love of violence than for sex. I don't really know what everyone has against sex; but that's me. It sells, that's it. SNSD also sells sexual fantasies, albeit in a more subtle way.

I have to disagree with the notion that Kpop really has (good) bubblegum pop - they did in the earlier part of the decade and maybe in the '90's, but most of what the mainstream puts out now is pseudo-R&B/hip hop music.

[mentalfiction]

Lol, this is one of the first times I've heard people complain about sex on American TV. I guess it's because Koreans are even more prudish in comparison. Believe me, European and even daytime (not usually primetime) Japanese TV has more sex than Americans do. I'm not exactly sure about what channels you're watching, but usually Americans just elude to sex or show them making out in the bed, they don't actually show anything like the Europeans do. Americans are more notorious for their love of violence than for sex. I don't really know what everyone has against sex; but that's me. It sells, that's it. SNSD also sells sexual fantasies, albeit in a more subtle way.

I have to disagree with the notion that Kpop really has (good) bubblegum pop - they did in the earlier part of the decade and maybe in the '90's, but most of what the mainstream puts out now is pseudo-R&B/hip hop music.

Maybe. With the new song, yes, but not with any that I've heard in the past. But even if there are any, at least they don't leave me scarred for life
And not sex as in showing sex. I mean lyrically. And anyways, I don't listen to/watch European music anyways, and the only Japanese music I listen to is jrock, and I know very few that actually have to do with sex, 'cuz I dunno, I just feel uncomfortable listening to songs like those.

I think American rap is more violent, and American pop is more sexual.
About bubblegum pop, I dunno, I guess I just prefer this sort of music.

[thesavanahplains]

i like american rock e.g. linkin park, cold play, switchfoot, sum41, and 3 days grace but american hip hop i think is alrite but not great
but i prefer asian hip hop even tho i hav to listen carefully if i want to understand wat they r saying becuz they speak so fast but asian rock is a lil low compared to american bands

[alic3.]

for me, i like both cuz it really depends on the artist/band
because in a large group, there will always be ones that are awesome
...and some that are really not so awesome

[CitrusFlower]

Ugh, SO true. Everyone is just using crappy mainstream American music as a comparison.

I personally prefer American music, specifically indie music. I don't like Asian music as much because it all seems too sweet? And [to me] it seems like their songs all use the same structure/formula?

Seriously, I hardly listen to mainstream American music unless it has a really good beat to it but as for Asian alot is bubble gum pop. The lyrics? It's very sweet and obviously no special meaning to it, when I look up for the subs it seems like something a little 15 year old girl would feel when she think she's in love.