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#1001 User is offline   s u s i e 

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 08:54 PM

hi ^^
can someone translate this for me?

謝謝總

thanks =]
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#1002 User is offline   tootoo 

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 01:44 AM

I know 謝謝 means thank you. But I don't know what the 總 at the back means. Anyone can help?


Hmmm... was thinking about this.... was that 總 written in error? Or was the sentence incomplete?
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:54 AM

^I think it means head, as in your boss or someone who had authority over you.
That's how I read it, I'm not too sure whether if it's correct.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
이특.희철.한경.예성.강인.신동.성민.은혁.동해.시원.려욱.기범.규현.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 09:47 PM

real quick...what does 'wo xiang ni' mean? haha thanks.
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:55 PM

^ it means i miss you. it's also on page 49.
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 11:50 PM

QUOTE(tootoo @ Jul 23 2006, 03:26 PM) View Post

Cantonese is a Mandarin dialect. Just like Hokkien, Khek (Hakka), Teochew, Hainan etc, these are all dialects of the Chinese spoken language.

The Chinese (not only those born in China) who knows Chinese does not equate that they know Cantonese, or any other Chinese dialects for that matter.

However, those who knows Cantonese, for example, the people of Hong Kong, most probably knows Chinese because remember, Cantonese is a dialect of Mandarin. They speak Cantonese as the verbal language, but they study Chinese in writting. They just learn everything Chinese but they don't speak Mandarin; they speak Cantonese.

For the older people who don't attend school, they speak the Chinese dialect in their everyday speech, don't know how to write in Chinese and don't speak Mandarin. In this sense, some may conclude that this group of people do not know Chinese. But they're still every bit an ethnic Chinese and knows more Chinese history and culture then the whole lot of us.

I know Chinese and speak Mandarin but I don't understand Cantonese. Wish I knew, so that I can watch Hong Kong dramas! tongue.gif

Mandarin is the most spoken lauguage in the whole wide world!! English ranks number 2! smile.gif


i totally agree with your explanation ^^.. just that i couldnt put it into words like u did.. haha..
n i didnt know that Mandarin is the most spoken language in the whole wide world... i thought it was English.. =p anyway.. may i know which country are u living in now.. n your nationality?


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Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:38 AM

would someone be able to write "one life one love" in chinese for me? both pingyin and characters plz ^^
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 04:58 AM

QUOTE(wen @ Jul 25 2006, 01:50 AM) View Post

i totally agree with your explanation ^^.. just that i couldnt put it into words like u did.. haha..
n i didnt know that Mandarin is the most spoken language in the whole wide world... i thought it was English.. =p anyway.. may i know which country are u living in now.. n your nationality?


Hehe biggrin.gif just trying to help

I'm a Singaporean living in my country, what about you, wen?


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Posted 25 July 2006 - 09:27 AM

translate please....so far i've gotten hope agenda and wish list

希望事項
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:28 PM

^ first two character can mean hope or wish, hehe dont know about the last two.

I want it to last forever
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE(saolaoane @ Jul 25 2006, 01:55 AM) View Post

^ it means i miss you. it's also on page 49.


ahh okay next time im going to check a few pages back first. lol sorry and thanks =]
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 04:34 AM

QUOTE(tootoo @ Jul 23 2006, 12:26 AM) View Post

Cantonese is a Mandarin dialect. Just like Hokkien, Khek (Hakka), Teochew, Hainan etc, these are all dialects of the Chinese spoken language.

The Chinese (not only those born in China) who knows Chinese does not equate that they know Cantonese, or any other Chinese dialects for that matter.

However, those who knows Cantonese, for example, the people of Hong Kong, most probably knows Chinese because remember, Cantonese is a dialect of Mandarin. They speak Cantonese as the verbal language, but they study Chinese in writting. They just learn everything Chinese but they don't speak Mandarin; they speak Cantonese.

For the older people who don't attend school, they speak the Chinese dialect in their everyday speech, don't know how to write in Chinese and don't speak Mandarin. In this sense, some may conclude that this group of people do not know Chinese. But they're still every bit an ethnic Chinese and knows more Chinese history and culture then the whole lot of us.

I know Chinese and speak Mandarin but I don't understand Cantonese. Wish I knew, so that I can watch Hong Kong dramas! tongue.gif

Mandarin is the most spoken lauguage in the whole wide world!! English ranks number 2! smile.gif


Cantonese is not a Mandarin dialect. Cantonese and Mandarin are both dialects of Chinese. People may think that Mandarin is the "original" Chinese, similar to Latin and French, Spanish, etc. In reality, when the Republic of China was founded and had full jurisdiction of the mainland, there was a debate whether the official language of China should be Mandarin or Cantonese. At that time, northern China spoke Mandarin while the south spoke Cantonese. The results of the election was that Mandarin would be adopted as the official language. Had Cantonese won the vote, all of China would be speaking Cantonese instead. The only exception was Hong Kong, which was still British. That's why up to today, Hong Kong still uses Cantonese as the official language in education, politics, et al. or at least until the "One country two systems" government ends.

Also, although written Chinese is "Mandarin pronunciation", it is just because the dialect of Mandarin speaks and writes the same way. Many other dialects do the same. However, Cantonese and a handful of other dialects do not speak written Chinese. They can and sometimes do (it is more formal), but in casual speech, Cantonese is spoken in its own way (some say it's similar to written "classical Chinese") and can be written in characters that aren't used in normal Chinese.

In short, Mandarin is not the origin of all Chinese dialects. Also, just to let you know, peopple in Hong Kong are now learning Mandarin in order to take part in their government.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 12:23 PM

I read that Cantonese is quite a bit older than Mandarin, and classical Chinese had more than 4 tones and this is why Cantonese is a better representation of old poetry etc, because Cantonese has preserved tones and pronunciation that no longer or never did exist in Mandarin

QUOTE(Yawnee @ Jul 26 2006, 02:27 AM) View Post

translate please....so far i've gotten hope agenda and wish list

希望事項


Hope agenda? lol...希望 means hope or wish, 事項 means item. So yes it means wish list..literally items you hope to get..
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:22 AM

Thanks, putasmileon, i learned alot!

I was wondering.. as Mandarin is selected as the language, would it mean that Cantonese becomes a dialect now? Coz Cantonese is definitely a dialect in my country.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE(tootoo @ Jul 27 2006, 07:22 AM) View Post

Thanks, putasmileon, i learned alot!

I was wondering.. as Mandarin is selected as the language, would it mean that Cantonese becomes a dialect now? Coz Cantonese is definitely a dialect in my country.


Well, Mandarin is selected as the official dialect, but Cantonese is still and always will be a major dialect. The official language of China is Chinese, but the official dialect is Mandarin. In Singapore and abroad, Cantonese tends to be treated as a language. In cases where the country doesn't have many Mandarin speakers, you could say Cantonese is a major language... since if you just use Chinese, it wouldn't be accurate.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:43 PM

How do you write the Korean name 'MinJi' in Chinese? Thanks
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE(driftwood023 @ Jul 28 2006, 01:43 AM) View Post

How do you write the Korean name 'MinJi' in Chinese? Thanks

Uhh... lol You have to know the hanja for Min Ji.
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:42 AM

i don't even know if this is chinese or korean .. sweatingbullets.gif

i'm interested on buying this CD but i want to make sure the songs were sung by the ORIGINAL korean singers.

help, anyone? thank you.
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:17 PM

QUOTE(chula @ Jul 28 2006, 02:42 PM) View Post

i don't even know if this is chinese or korean .. sweatingbullets.gif

i'm interested on buying this CD but i want to make sure the songs were sung by the ORIGINAL korean singers.

help, anyone? thank you.
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/sect...pid-1004453216/


you wouldn't wanna buy this then, this cd is by chinese artists.
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE(putasmileon @ Jul 27 2006, 10:10 PM) View Post

Well, Mandarin is selected as the official dialect, but Cantonese is still and always will be a major dialect. The official language of China is Chinese, but the official dialect is Mandarin. In Singapore and abroad, Cantonese tends to be treated as a language. In cases where the country doesn't have many Mandarin speakers, you could say Cantonese is a major language... since if you just use Chinese, it wouldn't be accurate.


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