Chinese Help Helping the victims of learning Chinese
#1001
Posted 23 July 2006 - 08:54 PM
can someone translate this for me?
謝謝總
thanks =]
#1002
Posted 24 July 2006 - 01:44 AM
Hmmm... was thinking about this.... was that 總 written in error? Or was the sentence incomplete?
#1003
Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:54 AM
That's how I read it, I'm not too sure whether if it's correct.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
#1006
Posted 24 July 2006 - 11:50 PM
Cantonese is a Mandarin dialect. Just like Hokkien, Khek (Hakka), Teochew, Hainan etc, these are all dialects of the Chinese spoken language.
The Chinese (not only those born in China) who knows Chinese does not equate that they know Cantonese, or any other Chinese dialects for that matter.
However, those who knows Cantonese, for example, the people of Hong Kong, most probably knows Chinese because remember, Cantonese is a dialect of Mandarin. They speak Cantonese as the verbal language, but they study Chinese in writting. They just learn everything Chinese but they don't speak Mandarin; they speak Cantonese.
For the older people who don't attend school, they speak the Chinese dialect in their everyday speech, don't know how to write in Chinese and don't speak Mandarin. In this sense, some may conclude that this group of people do not know Chinese. But they're still every bit an ethnic Chinese and knows more Chinese history and culture then the whole lot of us.
I know Chinese and speak Mandarin but I don't understand Cantonese. Wish I knew, so that I can watch Hong Kong dramas!
Mandarin is the most spoken lauguage in the whole wide world!! English ranks number 2!
i totally agree with your explanation ^^.. just that i couldnt put it into words like u did.. haha..
n i didnt know that Mandarin is the most spoken language in the whole wide world... i thought it was English.. =p anyway.. may i know which country are u living in now.. n your nationality?
#1007
Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:38 AM
#1008
Posted 25 July 2006 - 04:58 AM
i totally agree with your explanation ^^.. just that i couldnt put it into words like u did.. haha..
n i didnt know that Mandarin is the most spoken language in the whole wide world... i thought it was English.. =p anyway.. may i know which country are u living in now.. n your nationality?
Hehe
I'm a Singaporean living in my country, what about you, wen?
swani,
one life one love = 一條生命 一份愛情 yi tiao sheng ming yi fen ai qing
#1009
Posted 25 July 2006 - 09:27 AM
希望事項
#1010
Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:28 PM
I want it to last forever
#1011
Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:32 PM
#1012
Posted 26 July 2006 - 04:34 AM
Cantonese is a Mandarin dialect. Just like Hokkien, Khek (Hakka), Teochew, Hainan etc, these are all dialects of the Chinese spoken language.
The Chinese (not only those born in China) who knows Chinese does not equate that they know Cantonese, or any other Chinese dialects for that matter.
However, those who knows Cantonese, for example, the people of Hong Kong, most probably knows Chinese because remember, Cantonese is a dialect of Mandarin. They speak Cantonese as the verbal language, but they study Chinese in writting. They just learn everything Chinese but they don't speak Mandarin; they speak Cantonese.
For the older people who don't attend school, they speak the Chinese dialect in their everyday speech, don't know how to write in Chinese and don't speak Mandarin. In this sense, some may conclude that this group of people do not know Chinese. But they're still every bit an ethnic Chinese and knows more Chinese history and culture then the whole lot of us.
I know Chinese and speak Mandarin but I don't understand Cantonese. Wish I knew, so that I can watch Hong Kong dramas!
Mandarin is the most spoken lauguage in the whole wide world!! English ranks number 2!
Cantonese is not a Mandarin dialect. Cantonese and Mandarin are both dialects of Chinese. People may think that Mandarin is the "original" Chinese, similar to Latin and French, Spanish, etc. In reality, when the Republic of China was founded and had full jurisdiction of the mainland, there was a debate whether the official language of China should be Mandarin or Cantonese. At that time, northern China spoke Mandarin while the south spoke Cantonese. The results of the election was that Mandarin would be adopted as the official language. Had Cantonese won the vote, all of China would be speaking Cantonese instead. The only exception was Hong Kong, which was still British. That's why up to today, Hong Kong still uses Cantonese as the official language in education, politics, et al. or at least until the "One country two systems" government ends.
Also, although written Chinese is "Mandarin pronunciation", it is just because the dialect of Mandarin speaks and writes the same way. Many other dialects do the same. However, Cantonese and a handful of other dialects do not speak written Chinese. They can and sometimes do (it is more formal), but in casual speech, Cantonese is spoken in its own way (some say it's similar to written "classical Chinese") and can be written in characters that aren't used in normal Chinese.
In short, Mandarin is not the origin of all Chinese dialects. Also, just to let you know, peopple in Hong Kong are now learning Mandarin in order to take part in their government.
#1013
Posted 26 July 2006 - 12:23 PM
translate please....so far i've gotten hope agenda and wish list
希望事項
Hope agenda? lol...希望 means hope or wish, 事項 means item. So yes it means wish list..literally items you hope to get..
Entry=<Adventures in May - Dolls, Anpanman, Guinea pigs!!>
#1014
Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:22 AM
I was wondering.. as Mandarin is selected as the language, would it mean that Cantonese becomes a dialect now? Coz Cantonese is definitely a dialect in my country.
#1015
Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:10 PM
Thanks, putasmileon, i learned alot!
I was wondering.. as Mandarin is selected as the language, would it mean that Cantonese becomes a dialect now? Coz Cantonese is definitely a dialect in my country.
Well, Mandarin is selected as the official dialect, but Cantonese is still and always will be a major dialect. The official language of China is Chinese, but the official dialect is Mandarin. In Singapore and abroad, Cantonese tends to be treated as a language. In cases where the country doesn't have many Mandarin speakers, you could say Cantonese is a major language... since if you just use Chinese, it wouldn't be accurate.
#1016
Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:43 PM
my avatar is on crack -_-
#1017
Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:32 AM
How do you write the Korean name 'MinJi' in Chinese? Thanks
Uhh... lol You have to know the hanja for Min Ji.
#1018
Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:42 AM
i'm interested on buying this CD but i want to make sure the songs were sung by the ORIGINAL korean singers.
help, anyone? thank you.
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/sect...pid-1004453216/
#1019
Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:17 PM
i don't even know if this is chinese or korean ..
i'm interested on buying this CD but i want to make sure the songs were sung by the ORIGINAL korean singers.
help, anyone? thank you.
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/sect...pid-1004453216/
you wouldn't wanna buy this then, this cd is by chinese artists.
#1020
Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:20 PM
Well, Mandarin is selected as the official dialect, but Cantonese is still and always will be a major dialect. The official language of China is Chinese, but the official dialect is Mandarin. In Singapore and abroad, Cantonese tends to be treated as a language. In cases where the country doesn't have many Mandarin speakers, you could say Cantonese is a major language... since if you just use Chinese, it wouldn't be accurate.
How come Beijing Mandarin is the "proper" way to speak it?
Chinese immigrants say my taiwanese accent is "improper chinese" hahahaha.


























