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#151 User is offline   MUXU 

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:03 PM

台湾的注音难吗?
看起来像日文XD

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但是他們也不能說"xiang"根"shang"都一樣.

你的跟打错啰 laugh.gif
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:11 PM

hmm just wondering, when your typing do you have to type with mandrain pinyin? i know cantonese but not mandrain. does that mean i will have a hard time typing. oh yea, i know traditional but not simplified
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:14 PM

^i know cantonese type with a different format..as in..they dont type in pinyin..there are other ways to type chinese..not sure what they are called =T..so if u dont know pinyin..i suggest u either learn it..or learn the other methods
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:17 PM

i tried learning pinyin(on my own) but i just can't get it in my head. lol
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE(MUXU @ Jan 25 2006, 06:03 PM) View Post

台湾的注音难吗?
你的跟打错啰 laugh.gif


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QUOTE(swa11ow @ Jan 25 2006, 06:11 PM) View Post

hmm just wondering, when your typing do you have to type with mandrain pinyin? i know cantonese but not mandrain. does that mean i will have a hard time typing. oh yea, i know traditional but not simplified


There's all those other types of typing when you choose to select when style you want to use. There's like 7 on my computer sleep.gif

QUOTE(swa11ow @ Jan 25 2006, 06:17 PM) View Post

i tried learning pinyin(on my own) but i just can't get it in my head. lol


I learned pinyin (on my own), but I got it into my head ohmy.gif

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 06:31 PM

好玩,嘿嘿 w00t.gif


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u can download a software called NJ Star (nan ji xing)
thats the one i'm using... it sucks.. but i don't wanna make my computer system chinese

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 07:54 PM

^Just use IME..........................

It doesn't make your system chinese...

I can type in chinese, korean, and japanese, and I have an english system.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Jan 25 2006, 10:54 PM) View Post

^Just use IME..........................

It doesn't make your system chinese...

I can type in chinese, korean, and japanese, and I have an english system.

why am i finding this out juss now..
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:23 PM

我想要帮助你任何时间那我能够,它努力地在生活中早被在 married。但是你能够使其工作。但是我在 military 里的 remember 这样我在 thay 在船上时知道人的和离开他们的妻子。我希望他为了他的告诉你真理。它为我是困难的关于它跟你谈话 because 我 don't 想要你认为我刚刚尝试进入你裤子。我不!!我关于所有一切喜欢性会谈时间。这样我希望始终是一 friend!!!

My friend want's this deciphered :s.
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:56 PM

^ translated?

i'll try my best but it doesn't really make sense to me >;<


i want to help you anytime i'm free, he/she (the writer actually used 'it') married very early on in life. but you can work (? 'cause' is used here and i don't know how to put that into context). but when i was in the military, i remembered that when i was in Thay (?) and on a boat, i met some people whom have left their wives. i hope that he will, because of them, tell you the truth. he/she ('it' is used again) finds it difficult, because of me, to talk to you because i don't want you to think i just attempted to get into your pants (woah). i won't!! i will use this affection to make time. this way, i hope i'll always remain a friend.


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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:27 AM

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What's wfl forums? http://wflforums.org/ is this the place? I'm not a member. I'm not a fan of w-inds or flame or lead btw sweatingbullets.gif (someone is using my pics there? O_O)

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Opps, 我蛮确定是你的... 等一下我在去看看,网站现在不在线.别担心,也许我搞错了...
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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE(AngeloDS @ Jan 26 2006, 12:23 AM) View Post

我想要帮助你任何时间那我能够,它努力地在生活中早被在 married。但是你能够使其工作。但是我在 military 里的 remember 这样我在 thay 在船上时知道人的和离开他们的妻子。我希望他为了他的告诉你真理。它为我是困难的关于它跟你谈话 because 我 don't 想要你认为我刚刚尝试进入你裤子。我不!!我关于所有一切喜欢性会谈时间。这样我希望始终是一 friend!!!

My friend want's this deciphered :s.


That alone, is totally wrong in terms of sentence structure (a lot of it sounds like direct translation from English sayings such as (trying to get in your pants) so a lot of things are in reverse and don't make much sense.

QUOTE(~*.:Yuki:.*~ @ Jan 26 2006, 02:27 AM) View Post

Opps, 我蛮确定是你的... 等一下我在去看看,网站现在不在线.别担心,也许我搞错了...


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Posted 26 January 2006 - 11:01 AM

Holy crap I can't even read what AngeloDS typed up, much less point out grammatical structure error sleep.gif
That just tells me I need to work harder mellow.gif

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Jan 26 2006, 01:01 PM) View Post

Holy crap I can't even read what AngeloDS typed up, much less point out grammatical structure error sleep.gif
That just tells me I need to work harder mellow.gif


But if you translate it to English in the exact same order, you'll know this person is probably an English speaker and not a Chinese speaker. You know how in English the sentences are kind of in reverse versus Chinese where it's not.

For example, the first line....

我想要 = I want to 帮助你 = help you 任何时间 = whenever 那我能够 = I can.

I want to help you whenever I can.
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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:20 PM

...I could not read 7 of those words in the first line sleep.gif

Another way you could tell they're not very proficient in chinese is the most basic "don't" used in context sleep.gif

How do you practice reading/writing? Just continually write the same word over and over again until you get it in your head?

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Jan 26 2006, 01:20 PM) View Post

...I could not read 7 of those words in the first line sleep.gif

Another way you could tell they're not very proficient in chinese is the most basic "don't" used in context sleep.gif

How do you practice reading/writing? Just continually write the same word over and over again until you get it in your head?

that was like this one girl in my class, she opened up the dictionary and did literally translations for her essay =S
writing the words over and was what I did when I was at Chinese school, I literally sit there and fill sheets of paper with the words I'm suppose to know by the day of dictation O__O I'm weird but I thought it was fun

but I think the best way is to watch TV and read newspapers, for me it's Taiwanese, TVB series and reading the newspaper because they are in Traditional Chinese (I can't read Simplified)
and in that way you will recognize the characters and your sentence structure is correct
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Posted 26 January 2006 - 01:18 PM

Blah, I have to start learning chinese the REAL way.
Screw this english-chinese dictionary, where can you get full-chinese dictionaries sleep.gif

Most of the North America sucks at teaching other languages cause everything is still based on english. Damn system.

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE(Izam. @ Jan 26 2006, 03:44 AM) View Post

That alone, is totally wrong in terms of sentence structure (a lot of it sounds like direct translation from English sayings such as (trying to get in your pants) so a lot of things are in reverse and don't make much sense.

laugh.gif who wrote that..that sounds completely off...the pants part craked me up

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我祝你狗年里, 百事可乐, 万事七喜, 心情雪碧, 学习芬达, 工作红牛, 生活如梦, 天天娃哈哈, 月月乐百事, 年年高乐高, 永远都醒目!
for those for been to any part of china should know most of these "drinks" XD can u name them?
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想你想你好想你,找个画家画下你,把你贴在杯子里,每天喝水亲亲你.
this is just so cute >.< aw..wish a guy would say this to me
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Posted 26 January 2006 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Jan 27 2006, 06:18 AM) View Post

Blah, I have to start learning chinese the REAL way.
Screw this english-chinese dictionary, where can you get full-chinese dictionaries sleep.gif

Most of the North America sucks at teaching other languages cause everything is still based on english. Damn system.


North America is better at teaching languages than anywhere else (in upper education, not high schools) mostly because they have the best universities which of course attract the best teachers, and the system is open to changes and criticism. Prevalent monolingualism in America does not equal poor education, just laziness. Are you still in high school? Because at all universities the language classes are usually fully conducted in the target language, with separate lectures for grammar and vocab and such. Maybe Chinese schools in America are the problem?

You're right that word-pairing isn't a great way of learning, but there's nothing else for beginner's to do really. It's a good feeling to be at the level where you have to look words in a dictionary for the language because they don't have it in a X-English English-X one. For learning vocab I know alot of people use flashcards, or use mneumonic devices in order to remember the meaning of the character, etc..Try it sometime
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Posted 26 January 2006 - 08:32 PM

Yes, maybe it's just cause I'm in high school...

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