[alygat0r]

你好

Wow I just learned how to do that. I've always wondered how it was possible to type like that.

[lilchan]

^hehe..good for you...I cant type chinese..I cant install unionway..my computer doesnt have much memory left

[idolfan311]

i'm using simplified to type and sometimes when i compare it. there are times the characters look different. would that still mean the same thing?

[mintyjunki]

Hi alygat0r, how do you write Chinese characters? Which program did you install?

[Xuxiansheng]

Hi alygat0r, how do you write Chinese characters? Which program did you install?

I only know how to do it w/ windows xp...
go to control panel, Date, time, language and regional options, then click regional and language options

Then click the languages tab, and press details
that little thing pops up, and just press add, and select which languages u wanna add
after u do that, set the key combos, and all that good stuff

好好学习！ 天天向上！

and someday ur chinese will be as good as mine =D

[putasmileon]

I only know how to do it w/ windows xp...
go to control panel, Date, time, language and regional options, then click regional and language options

Then click the languages tab, and press details
that little thing pops up, and just press add, and select which languages u wanna add
after u do that, set the key combos, and all that good stuff

好好学习！ 天天向上！

and someday ur chinese will be as good as mine =D

你的謙遜真好啦!

[prehistoric]

I do not agree with this. As far as I am concerned simplified chinese is incorrect, in the past you can not write simplified chinese in hong kong/taiwan (government still bans simplified chinese on official document)/macau schools (but now with so much growing in china, some people there do use it which is dissapointing). I know traditional is harder, but too bad. It is the way our ancestors created it, and is the proper way to write chinese. You have your whole life to learn it, nothing can be too complicated. Once in class a mainland chinese asked me to show him how to write my name, and after I wrote it he said he can't read it. I asked him why? and it took us a while before I realized that none of them can write proper chinese. They say that it was invented so more mainlanders would be able to read back then which is nice, but all I see is half a character with an X in the middle. You are fortunate to have the resources to learn unlike people back then, you don't need simplified chinese. I suppose old old chinese is different from traditional now (as some characters back then are not used commonly), but if you use mainland china simplified I feel that it is almost completely dumbing down the language, switching everything. I urge every member who post above to learn our language the original way. Then if you want to because of china's economy or what not, you can do simplified as well.

"proper" chinese?
give me a break.

[putasmileon]

"proper" chinese?
give me a break.

I agree with you. The English language evolves too. It started out with Proto-Indo-European, then went to Old English, Middle English, and lastly Modern English. Language naturally evolves so don't think it's the proper way, it's just changing. I don't think we'd do very well with Middle English... what do you think, tradition keeper?

[tuesday]

if you use mainland china simplified I feel that it is almost completely dumbing down the language, switching everything.

Are you kidding me? That's absolutely ridiculous

Anyways,
Does anyone use/have NJ Star? How is it?

[luluponyazn]

I do not agree with this. As far as I am concerned simplified chinese is incorrect, in the past you can not write simplified chinese in hong kong/taiwan (government still bans simplified chinese on official document)/macau schools (but now with so much growing in china, some people there do use it which is dissapointing). I know traditional is harder, but too bad. It is the way our ancestors created it, and is the proper way to write chinese. You have your whole life to learn it, nothing can be too complicated. Once in class a mainland chinese asked me to show him how to write my name, and after I wrote it he said he can't read it. I asked him why? and it took us a while before I realized that none of them can write proper chinese. They say that it was invented so more mainlanders would be able to read back then which is nice, but all I see is half a character with an X in the middle. You are fortunate to have the resources to learn unlike people back then, you don't need simplified chinese. I suppose old old chinese is different from traditional now (as some characters back then are not used commonly), but if you use mainland china simplified I feel that it is almost completely dumbing down the language, switching everything. I urge every member who post above to learn our language the original way. Then if you want to because of china's economy or what not, you can do simplified as well.

so you are saying that ppl nowawadays should write and speak in 文言文 just b/c it was the way our ancestors did it?

here's a passage in "proper chinese", although i can't find any traditional chinese versions

　太行、王屋二山，方七百里，高万仞。本在冀州之南，河阳之北。北山愚公者，年且九十，面山而居。惩山北之塞，出入之迂也，聚室而谋曰：�吾与汝毕力平险，指通豫南，达于汉阴，可乎？�杂然相许。其妻献疑曰：�以君之力，曾不能损魁父之丘，如太行王屋何？且焉置土石？�杂曰：�投诸渤海之尾，隐土之北。�遂率子孙荷担者三夫，扣石垦壤，箕畚运于渤海之尾。邻人京城氏之孀妻，有遗男，始龀，跳往助之。寒暑易节，始一反焉。河曲智叟笑而止之，曰：�甚矣，汝之不惠。以残年馀力，曾不能毁山之一毛，其如土石何？�北山愚公长息曰：�汝心之固，固不可彻，曾不若孀妻弱子。虽我之死，有子存焉；子又生孙，孙又生子；子又有子，子又有孙。子子孙孙，无穷匮也。而山不加增，何苦而不平？�河曲智叟亡以应。

　　操蛇之神闻之，惧其不已也，告之于帝。帝感其诚，命夸娥氏二子负二山，一厝朔东，一厝朔南。自此，冀之南，汉之阴，无陇断焉。

　　（《列子�汤问篇》）

p.s. this is the "proper" way the famous story 愚公移山 is suppose to be told. personally, i think i would understand 0% if this was the way i was told the story when i was a small child.

see how you would feel if you speak/write like that everyday.

i don't think traditional is bad, i just think simplified is a great starting place for beginners.

and if you are talking about proper, then with the many dialects in China, which one is the "proper" way to speak it

[putasmileon]

so you are saying that ppl nowawadays should write and speak in 文言文 just b/c it was the way our ancestors did it?

here's a passage in "proper chinese", although i can't find any traditional chinese versions

　太行、王屋二山，方七百里，高万仞。本在冀州之南，河阳之北。北山愚公者，年且九十，面山而居。惩山北之塞，出入之迂也，聚室而谋曰：�吾与汝毕力平险，指通豫南，达于汉阴，可乎？�杂然相许。其妻献疑曰：�以君之力，曾不能损魁父之丘，如太行王屋何？且焉置土石？�杂曰：�投诸渤海之尾，隐土之北。�遂率子孙荷担者三夫，扣石垦壤，箕畚运于渤海之尾。邻人京城氏之孀妻，有遗男，始龀，跳往助之。寒暑易节，始一反焉。河曲智叟笑而止之，曰：�甚矣，汝之不惠。以残年馀力，曾不能毁山之一毛，其如土石何？�北山愚公长息曰：�汝心之固，固不可彻，曾不若孀妻弱子。虽我之死，有子存焉；子又生孙，孙又生子；子又有子，子又有孙。子子孙孙，无穷匮也。而山不加增，何苦而不平？�河曲智叟亡以应。

　　操蛇之神闻之，惧其不已也，告之于帝。帝感其诚，命夸娥氏二子负二山，一厝朔东，一厝朔南。自此，冀之南，汉之阴，无陇断焉。

　　（《列子�汤问篇》）

p.s. this is the "proper" way the famous story 愚公移山 is suppose to be told. personally, i think i would understand 0% if this was the way i was told the story when i was a small child.

see how you would feel if you speak/write like that everyday.

i don't think traditional is bad, i just think simplified is a great starting place for beginners.

and if you are talking about proper, then with the many dialects in China, which one is the "proper" way to speak it

I agree. Simplified is more important in today's world, but learning traditional wouldn't do you any harm (after simplified first).

And Mandarin would be the "proper" way for most people, thus guo yu.

[lilchan]

If you know traditional..most likely,you will understand simplified...

[guilin813]

~tengteng 在 #886 提到... But I think it would be better if you could listen to chinese singers more;
已經中了张娜拉的毐了��那該怎麼辦？

~Mui 在 #886 提到... Saw her on a taiwan variety drama before.
娜拉是很會唱，功力很強，卻不太會說。

It's quite a phenomenon that,
In read & write: Hong Kong(Cantonese) and Taiwan(Mandarin) is same thing;
In speak & listen: Taiwan(Mandarin) and The mainland(Putonghua) is same thing.

If have to choose one(Trad. or Simp.) to learn, I would choose the Simplified. Just personal decision. Don't ask me why.

[ANJEE<3]

I only know how to do it w/ windows xp...
go to control panel, Date, time, language and regional options, then click regional and language options

Then click the languages tab, and press details
that little thing pops up, and just press add, and select which languages u wanna add
after u do that, set the key combos, and all that good stuff

好好学习！ 天天向上！

and someday ur chinese will be as good as mine =D

ehhhh? how? chinese isn't an option

i would recommend anyone who's debating between traditional and simplified to learn simplified first.

one, it's a whole lot less complicated to write and remember.
two, iono if it's true for everybody, but i learned simplified as a child and never had an official class on traditional chinese, but i can read traditional just fine. i can't write it though, way too complicated.

i disagree... i've learned traditional for 10 years and i can read simplified fine now.. and i could recognize the chars without any real lessons.. but i've had a total of 3 years with simplified now..



i guess it just depends on which one you learned first.. cause i don't think it really matters because it's similar in most cases anyway... except... call me biased and what not... but i think traditional looks 100x better than simplified when writing... simplified in my opinion is ugly looking and it doesn't represent the true beauty of the writing and language

[--=WinGz=--]

QUESTION!

um..I use IME to type Chinese..but, how do u type Traditional Chinese? is it through pinyin? Cause now I simply use Simplified chinese since that is an easy way to type..

but yeah, how to type in Trad. Chinese using IME?

please help.. I need to type it for a message to my family...
Thanks in advance!

[luluponyazn]

^same prob, there's the traditional typing system on my computer, but i don't get how you type it. i don't think it's pinyin, cuz i hav tried that, and failed horribly.

i think traditional looks absolutely beautiful in calligraphy (i doubt anyone would write simplified in calligraphy), but i would rather use simplified in daily lives, just b/c it's easier.

[putasmileon]

^^ You need to set the input method to Pinyin. Try one of the links on the first page of the thread.

I'm unable to help since now, I have a Mac.

[luluponyazn]

awesome, thank you. i think my computer is just weird.

[tengteng]

~tengteng 在 #886 提到... But I think it would be better if you could listen to chinese singers more;
已經中了张娜拉的毐了��那該怎麼辦？

oh...then I'm not quite sure...switch to Kangta? If you prefer korean singers...
Maybe you can try to adapt to a few more chinese singers like david tao,jay zhou(though u may need the lyrics sometimes to comprehend the words,I won't recommend him if you're a beginner in chinese), but their music is good.


I learn simplified chinese all my life since I'm living in S'pore and they only teach simplified but I could read trad. chinese too.
I think it's not a problem to recognise trad. and simp. but the problems comes in whenyou tried to write them, cause you're used to writing trad/simp, but pratice makes perfect!!
I agree with some of you here that trad. chinese looks more pretty in calligraphy and professional.

[--=WinGz=--]

^^ You need to set the input method to Pinyin. Try one of the links on the first page of the thread.

I'm unable to help since now, I have a Mac.

ohh, ok, I will check out the sites..
Thanks though..!!