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#951 User is offline   tengteng 

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 08:57 PM

Saolaoane:
chi ya
naked crow?

Zi Yan:
1. tan mu, visiting mother
2. ji mo xing qiu, lonely planet
3. wen rou, gentle
4. qing gong, a kind of martial art, no idea how to explain
5. Same as above
6. wu zhuang, armored (soul remix)
7. na yi nian de hua ji, that year's flowering season
8. hen xing de hen xin, the forever star's determination
9. er wo zhi dao, and I know
10. feng kuang shi jie, crazy world
11. chun zhen, innocence
12. sheng ming you yi zhong jue dui, there's a definite in life
13. shi guang ji, time machine
14. wu yue zhi lian xu qu, the love in may
15. same as 11 (instru)
16. same as 4 (instru)
17. same as 1(instru)
18. san cheng ji
19. ru wo shi shi tou, if i am a stone
20. qing dao ba shi
21. xun geng(dai wo qu san yi), roots seaching (bring me to san yi)
22. chen pin ji tu
23. wu zhung yi hou, after amouring
24. same as 7
25. ling hun neng you duo zhong, how heavy can the soul be
26. na yi lou de a?(tai bei de jiao bu), which floor?(taipei's footsteps)
27. san yi zhi xia
28. same as 4(slow rock version)
29. same as 9
30. ji mo xing qiu ren ren ji mo, lonely plant, everone's lonely
31. gu shi dou sui feng , sotry swaying with the wind
32. ai shi lu zhou
33. same as 2(movie version)


Hope this is helpful in some way.

이특.희철.한경.예성.강인.신동.성민.은혁.동해.시원.려욱.기범.규현.

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#952 User is offline   saolaoane 

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 11:12 PM

谢谢你 tengteng!
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Posted 09 July 2006 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE(heartmonster @ Jun 2 2006, 02:51 PM) View Post

^ http://www.khngai.com/chinese/tools/convert.php
It can convert traditional to simplified and vice versa.


ohh I already have a program like that on my computer
but I was just wondering if there was a chart because sometimes when I see Simplified characters, I would be able to recognize it if there was some chart I could learn off of
like 們 = 们 | 聽 = 听
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 01:29 AM

QUOTE(putasmileon @ Jul 8 2006, 04:21 AM) View Post

However, the first example was li3xiao3jie3. Xiao3jie3 is not the same word repeated. Li3xiao3jie3 should have a tone mark for every word, even though it's pronounced Li3xiao2jie3.


yeah i've just checked dictionary... the 姐 don't get a tone mark ... weird though.. cos i thought it should since we do pronounce it with a tone.
I really don't know why it doesn't get one ... sorry couldn't help.
Just that I write without thinking about Pinyin, so I really don't know the theory behind it.
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#955 User is offline   Zi Yan 

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 05:53 AM

QUOTE(tengteng @ Jul 9 2006, 12:57 PM) View Post

Zi Yan:

Hope this is helpful in some way.


whoa! thank you biggrin.gif
Looking for download links for these old korean dramas with english subtitle:
Into the Sunlight (1999)
Secret (2000)
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 05:53 AM

Ok. I really really want to learn Chinese. I have been wanting to learn it for a long time (since i was 13). I have a few issues though.
1. I started learning Chinese in the summer when i came to korea, so that i can take it in university (since its much better to learn Chinese in Korea than US or Canada). But i found that i can't take Chinese until next summer since my schedule doesn't work out. I dont want to forget it. What should i do?
2. I also want to listen to Chinese music, but I want to make sure that the music is in Mandarin. Here are the list of artists i have:
F4
Philip Wang
Meteor Garden OST
光良 (Guang Liang)
孤泣 (Ray)
张学友 (장학우)
张柏芝 (장백지)
李岗 (Alex Li)
杜德伟 (Alex Toh)
林俊杰 (임준걸)
楊丞琳 (양청린)
汪佩蓉(왕패용)
王力宏 (왕리홍)
胡彦斌 (호언빈)
范玮琪 (Fan Wei Chi, Fanfan)
陶喆 (도철)
Also, if there are ne artists that sing in mandarin, recommend some to me. I would be even more thankful if you can tell me where to dl them.

3. I want to watch a chinese sit-com (not drama, since they tend to be long) about 20-40mins long thats in mandarin. I would prefer like teenage sit-coms (like Nonstop 6 of korea). If someone could recommend some and tell me where i can find them, it would be nice.

Another thing. I just need to ask. Do u think it would be possible for someone of my age (2nd year in uni) to learn to speak Chinese fluently? I mean, when i hear chinese ppl speak or listen to Chinese music or watch chinese shows/movies, i can hear the words- its not just mumbling to me. The problem is, i dont know the meaning of those words. Also, I didn't learn Han-ja (Chinese writing) like most koreans do. so...what are my chances? I really have the desire to learn it.

NE way, sorry for the long post.
Please help me out!!
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 07:36 AM

can you please me put this in chinese and pinyin ?

I will miss you

I miss you.

please and thank you so much!!
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 08:03 AM

QUOTE(saolaoane @ Jul 8 2006, 03:17 AM) View Post

can somebody help me translate this into pinyin and english?

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thanks in advance!


to zi yan.

i think it means "red crow" instead of "naked crow", chi is like a dark, brick red

and it's read "chi4ya1"
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 08:23 AM

QUOTE(parkie871 @ Jul 10 2006, 08:53 AM) View Post

Ok. I really really want to learn Chinese. I have been wanting to learn it for a long time (since i was 13). I have a few issues though.
1. I started learning Chinese in the summer when i came to korea, so that i can take it in university (since its much better to learn Chinese in Korea than US or Canada). But i found that i can't take Chinese until next summer since my schedule doesn't work out. I dont want to forget it. What should i do?
2. I also want to listen to Chinese music, but I want to make sure that the music is in Mandarin. Here are the list of artists i have:
F4
Philip Wang
Meteor Garden OST
光良 (Guang Liang)
孤泣 (Ray)
张学友 (장학우)
张柏芝 (장백지)
李岗 (Alex Li)
杜德伟 (Alex Toh)
林俊杰 (임준걸)
楊丞琳 (양청린)
汪佩蓉(왕패용)
王力宏 (왕리홍)
胡彦斌 (호언빈)
范玮琪 (Fan Wei Chi, Fanfan)
陶喆 (도철)
Also, if there are ne artists that sing in mandarin, recommend some to me. I would be even more thankful if you can tell me where to dl them.

3. I want to watch a chinese sit-com (not drama, since they tend to be long) about 20-40mins long thats in mandarin. I would prefer like teenage sit-coms (like Nonstop 6 of korea). If someone could recommend some and tell me where i can find them, it would be nice.

Another thing. I just need to ask. Do u think it would be possible for someone of my age (2nd year in uni) to learn to speak Chinese fluently? I mean, when i hear chinese ppl speak or listen to Chinese music or watch chinese shows/movies, i can hear the words- its not just mumbling to me. The problem is, i dont know the meaning of those words. Also, I didn't learn Han-ja (Chinese writing) like most koreans do. so...what are my chances? I really have the desire to learn it.

NE way, sorry for the long post.
Please help me out!!


1. practice more in daily life, it would be very difficult at first, but it should start to flow once your chinese gets to a certain level.

2. these artists are pretty good. there's also that "Tank" person, don't know his name in Chinese. Jay Chou, "Zhou Jie Lun" is really good, i love the lyrics in some of his songs, those written by Fang Wen Shan. If you know the song or artist names, you can search them on "mp3.sina.com.cn", "mp3.baidu.com". z-degrees used to have a lot of chinese songs, but i think it's down. anyone knows what happened?

3. I don't know any TW sitcoms, but Mainland i know of "Wu Lin Wai Zhuan" 武林外传, it's a comedy set in ancientish times. it's about 80 episodes, around 20/30 min each epi. there's a lot of internet language that you might not understand b/c the guy who wrote the script is an internet bug. 康熙来了 is a good TW show, it's not a sitcom, more like interview shows, but it's hella funny although some of the jokes are quite crude. I would still recommend dramas, b/c they have a much concrete plot and use more advanced language than just sitcoms. History dramas are the best, b/c they teach very advanced chinese and give you the background on the chinese language at the same time.

4. i believe that you can master any language if you put your heart to it. i know a lot of foreigners who have fluent chinese although they started learning at an older age. you'd just have to work really hard.
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 08:53 AM

QUOTE(sweetl0ve @ Jul 10 2006, 10:36 AM) View Post

can you please me put this in chinese and pinyin ?

I will miss you

I miss you.

please and thank you so much!!



我會掛念你 / wo3 hu4i gua4 nian4 ni3 / i will miss you

我掛念你 / wo3 gua4 nian4 ni3 / i miss you

我好掛念你 / wo3 hao3 gua4 nian4 ni3 / i really miss you(i thought i miss you sounded kinda weird so i added this one for you cause i think it just sounds better)
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ANDY.LEEKIM.DONGWANERIC.MUNSHIN.HYESUNGJUNJINLEE.MINWOO
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 09:15 AM

^ In one of the taiwanese series, they translated "wo xiang ni" (i think) as I miss you.. Is that another way of saying it ?
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE(alygat0r @ Jul 10 2006, 12:15 PM) View Post

^ In one of the taiwanese series, they translated "wo xiang ni" (i think) as I miss you.. Is that another way of saying it ?


Yes, and it's the usual way of saying it. Most ppl will say "wo xiang ni" rather than "wo gao nian ni"
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 06:57 PM

i have my name in chinese on a piece of paper
i downloaded a program to type chinese but i don't know how to use it
so i wrote my name in chinese using paint sweatingbullets.gif
someone please PM me and i'll send you the paint file
so that you can type it in chinese for me? blush.gif
i don't like it as a paint file and prefer it typed up
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 12:54 AM

QUOTE(luluponyazn @ Jul 10 2006, 12:21 PM) View Post

Yes, and it's the usual way of saying it. Most ppl will say "wo xiang ni" rather than "wo gao nian ni"




that's more mandarin... i'm canto so yeah.. lol



it means the same thing either way
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 12:22 PM

parkie871: 张学友 (장학우), 张柏芝 (장백지). those are actually hk singers, so most likely you'll end up hearing their cantonese songs. some mainland artists that i recommend for their mainland or rather northern accent and clear pronounication: 朴树 and 水木年华. also baidu.com is a great resource for chinese music. smile.gif
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 07:38 PM

I recommend JJ Lin songs... cos it has sweet and nice melody.
Like geianna said, Baidu has a good range of songs for download... and the links works too!!
It has also lyrics and BBS.
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Posted 12 July 2006 - 05:25 AM

how do I learn pronounciation in mandarin language?

Any downloadable files to practice pronounciation?
I've been very weak in this area. How do I overcome it?
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Posted 12 July 2006 - 10:57 AM

QUOTE(sofia @ Jul 12 2006, 10:25 PM) View Post

how do I learn pronounciation in mandarin language?

Any downloadable files to practice pronounciation?
I've been very weak in this area. How do I overcome it?


The class at harvard i'm currently taking uses this website, but it's open to everyone if you want to use it:

Pronunciation Exercises: http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~chiaab/pron.html

Pinyin Practice: http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~pinyin/

Tone Drills: http://shufawest.us/language/tonedrill.html


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Posted 12 July 2006 - 07:38 PM

I highly DO NOT recommend Jay Chou songs to practice Chinese. His pronunciation is terrible... and ever heard of enunciation?
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 06:06 AM

^- jay chou slurrs his words when he sings.. and i love how he does it.. ^^"


but agreed it's TERRIBLE way to learn mandarin...
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