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#1101 User is offline   BeesKnees 

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 06:25 PM

^ I agree Choi Hyun-Jin fits well but I'm not digging the Keyboardist but the Bassist I can't judge yet..
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 07:17 PM

I jsut noticed something. Is Taiji wearing Optimus Prime?!?!
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 07:37 PM

I'm pretty sure that's some other robot series
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:00 AM

does anyone have the english translation for his new song?? the moai one..
i've been looking for it but I couldn't find it... thanks a lot smile.gif
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 05:59 PM

MOAI is too hard to translate ;_; but here's my rough translation of T'IKT'AK: don't steal =0

And I warn you - it sounds so bad the way I translate it.
Seotaiji has a certain style of writing his lyrics that I can't imitate and change into its English counterpart.

Also, obviously, the lyrics aren't sentences - they're a bunch of words and ideas flowing together.
You might be a little confused(ex. "the sharp wind knows everything / this dark night / dirty fight / truth count").

And, since this is my translation, this is my interpretation of the lyrics - other Koreans may disagree with a few details.

Last of all, I'm sorry that it's so awkward =/ it's 1247104718024814 times better in Korean.

Hopefully, some better translators will attempt the other two songs.




3]T'IKT'AK

약속된 시간 컨트롤 된 뇌파 내 창 밖에 다가온 재앙
At the promised time the brainwave under control the disaster at my window
저 날카로운 바람은 모든 걸 알고 있어 이 어두운 밤 더러운 싸움 진실 카운트
The sharp wind knows everything this dark night dirty fight truth count

T'IKT'AK 시간의 속도를 감지 못한 이 걸음 바쁜 종말에 다른 바람 섞인 이 온도의 차이
T'IKT'AK These steps that can't wind up the speed of time
at the busy end the difference in this temperature mixed with other winds*

T'IKT'AK 뚜렷한 가치를 담지 못한 너의 텅 빈 Brain
T'IKT'AK Your empty brain which can't contain clear thoughts
A New Order For The World Why You Can't Cry?
A New Order For The World Why You Can't Cry?

내 서랍 아래로 감춰 둔 비의 내게 남은 마지막의 대안
The rain's remaining last alternative that I've hidden under my drawer
순간 눈을 감아 바람을 난 모으고 있어 너의 음모를 증명할 진실 카운트
I suddenly close my eyes and collect the wind the truth count that will prove your plot

이 맑은 산소와 태양, 바람 모두 충분한데 대체 왜 너는 왜 어째서 이렇게도 외로운 걸까
There's enough of this clear air and sun, wind but why are you this lonely
Destroy the world 네 술책, 비호로 집어 쓴 너의 감투로 네가 넘어야 할 문턱
Destroy the world your strategy, the threshold you have to cross with the hat* that you're using as a shield

* It's not supposed to be two lines, but it just got too long so I split it
** 감투 is a Korean hat that the gentry or officials used to wear


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I wonder if he purposely chose this time to do his comeback - he's going to compete with the Olympics for the spotlight =/
Also, a bunch of other Korean artists are doing comebacks: Big Bang, Cool, Dong Bang Shin Gi, Kim Gun Mo, Jo Sung Mo...
It's going to be so hectic =/


Geez, one article says that this album's fashion concept is 'formal dress' and another says that it's 'new punk.'


Seotaiji might be coming out on "Bae Chul Soo's Music Camp," a music radio program that he came out on in 2004.


It's 11:35 am in Korea right now x_x 11h 40min left...
I wonder if they'll show it tomorrow on the Korean MBC channel here in Toronto <3


Holy x________X Seotaiji fans have rented part of a theater in two cities, Seoul and Busan, to watch his Comeback Special together. In Seoul, they pay 8,000 won each (roughly $8) and in Busan, 10,000 won each (roughly $10) to get in.


Did you know that Yoo Jae Suk(Korean comedian), Bae Yong Joon(Korean actor), and Seo Taiji are the same age?
They're all 1972ers and YJS recently mentioned on a TV program how he met Seotaiji a long time ago.





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Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:19 AM

The eight-million-bucks music video for 'Moai' was revealed in Korea just minutes ago. You can watch it here:

http://www.soshistalker.com/?p=1160

Not a fan of Seo Taiji but I like this song quite a lot.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:20 AM

I have the Seotaiji company version of the music video up. There's an extra clip at the end and without those annoying credits.
There's also a clip from the MBC special hosted by Lee, Junki on my channel. lol. "난 다급하다!"

http://www.youtube.com/user/SHOWMETRUTH
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 12:18 PM

QUOTE (ZZOOzzoo @ Aug 6 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The eight-million-bucks music video for 'Moai' was revealed in Korea just minutes ago. You can watch it here:

http://www.soshistalker.com/?p=1160

Not a fan of Seo Taiji but I like this song quite a lot.

It's not $8 mil, it's $800,000. 8억원 = 800,000,000 won = $787,675.475 USD


I love the MV <33333333

Someone posted the entire program, in ten parts:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Jafy6fypGjw&feature=user

Bass: Kang Joon-hyung, nickname is Dr. Kang, was in the Korean band "A'ccel In A Story (에이첼 인 어 스토리)"
Drummer: Choi Hyun-jin, is the drummer for the Korean band "Vassline," and is only staying for the 8th album so don't complain =0

Seotaiji and Marilyn Manson are having a press conference together on the 13th about the ETP fest.

The ratings for the comeback special was only 9.8% ;_; the program that usually plays at that time had 15.4% last week.

GM Dae Woo gave Seotaiji two cars worth 30,000,000 won (roughly $30,000) each because they say that after Seotaiji's CF, their sales went up 30%. One's going to be used at the ETP fest and one's going to be given to a fan by a lottery-ish event.


People, stop lurking and post =0 I SEE YOUR NAMES!






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Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:52 PM

the mv was very awesome, a good quality video with a lot hardwork put into it, a refreshing change from all those low budget mv you see from all the other artists

but i was wondering, when did seo taiji serve his military duty?
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:07 PM

^ He didn't go, the main theory is because he has 성격 장애 - a personality disorder.
If it was another celebrity, I wouldn't believe him/her, but I believe him Seotaiji because he is can be an extreme introvert. The whole reason that his fans know so little about him is because he spent a lot of years where he barely left his house. Ehh, I'd go deeper, but I have to sleep now - I'll explain more tomorrow.



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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE (lumiyooni @ Aug 6 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not $8 mil, it's $800,000. 8억원 = 800,000,000 won = $787,675.475 USD


I love the MV <33333333

Someone posted the entire program, in ten parts:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Jafy6fypGjw&feature=user

Bass: Kang Joon-hyung, nickname is Dr. Kang, was in the Korean band "A'ccel In A Story (에이첼 인 어 스토리)"
Drummer: Choi Hyun-jin, is the drummer for the Korean band "Vassline," and is only staying for the 8th album so don't complain =0

Seotaiji and Marilyn Manson are having a press conference together on the 13th about the ETP fest.

The ratings for the comeback special was only 9.8% ;_; the program that usually plays at that time had 15.4% last week.

GM Dae Woo gave Seotaiji two cars worth 30,000,000 won (roughly $30,000) each because they say that after Seotaiji's CF, their sales went up 30%. One's going to be used at the ETP fest and one's going to be given to a fan by a lottery-ish event.


People, stop lurking and post =0 I SEE YOUR NAMES!






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I just finished watching it. It is so refreshing to see him on TV again. Personally I think they should have had someone else interview him, because it seemed so awkward between Lee Jun Ki and Seo Taiji. Lee jun Ki seemed nervous, I guess I would be too if I had the opportunity to spend time with such a big icon in the Kpop industry.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:19 PM

the music video was beautiful. Seotaiji's adventure must've been exciting O_O
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE (lumiyooni @ Aug 6 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ He didn't go, the main theory is because he has 성격 장애 - a personality disorder.
If it was another celebrity, I wouldn't believe him/her, but I believe him Seotaiji because he is can be an extreme introvert. The whole reason that his fans know so little about him is because he spent a lot of years where he barely left his house. Ehh, I'd go deeper, but I have to sleep now - I'll explain more tomorrow.



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uhm no. where did you get that from? i saw someone else put that as a reply on a Q&A at Daum and they got hella flamed for it.
it's because he dropped out of middle school fury.gif

here's a quote that has the most general consensus:
"서태지는 군대를 가지 않았습니다.
이런저런 사유가 있어서 인데요,

첫째, 위천공이 있었습니다. 위천공이란 위벽에 구멍이 생기는 병이라는데요,
한때는 너무 심해서 우유만 먹었다고 합니다.
^1st he had some kind of disease that makes you develop a hole in your chest area and it was so bad that he had to live off of milk most of the time.


둘째, 고등학교 중퇴죠. 후에는 검정고시로 고졸로 바뀌었다는데
그때는 중졸이었습니다. 그래서 병역 면제 사유가 되었죠.
^2nd he dropped out of middle school. (Now they don't have that exemption anymore)


셋째, 그때는 베이비붐 시대라서 그 집에 아들이 하나일때는
병역 면제를 받았다고 해요. 서태지 집안은 1남 1녀지요."
^3rd something about baby boom and how at that time they exempted families with only one boy. (he had a sister)

But mostly people always say the drop out issue first.

I believe the rumor about the whole psychological issue happed when he was in the band SINAWE and back than anyone with long hair and weird fashion was considered crazy in korea for the general public.

who cares if people lurk, they may just not have anything to contribute. conserve space >:]
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:42 PM

I really like the mv. It was directed well and the scenery is so pretty.
I was wondering what the presence of the UFOs are for though; can someone help explain? happy.gif

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:53 PM

^ the concept for this single (or perhaps the whole 3 part series) is on mysteries.
So crop circle, aliens, moai, and even the reason that he worked at a supposed haunted house to record songs, is to strengthen that concept. and also general questions about them he wanted to address when he was younger.

so he sings about it =D
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 02:32 AM

ooh they finally uploaded the seo taiji comeback special and interview on youtube.
Life goes on too fast.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 09:37 AM

QUOTE (LEGACY @ Aug 7 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
uhm no. where did you get that from? i saw someone else put that as a reply on a Q&A at Daum and they got hella flamed for it.
it's because he dropped out of middle school fury.gif


Which is why I said "main theory" and "I'll explain more tomorrow." I was in the middle of writing a bunch of stuff and then I had to turn the computer off - that's why the grammar is messed up in some places. mellow.gif

Most non-Seotaiji-fans believe that it was because of his personality, and to me, he's the only person I would have believed if he had said that was the reason. I mean, some other celebs and a lot of kids of politicians/rich people/etc. try pulling that card, but you can tell that it's a bunch of BS.

I had a big argument with my parents because
1. my mom insisted that he used the 성격장애 excuse to skip the duty
2. my dad believes that he does have 성격장애 and thinks that he's strange/crazy
and so 3. they don't really want me listening to his music.

Eh, they hate nearly all the music I listen to so I don't really care =/
but I still love my mommy♥

Oh, and he didn't drop out of middle school - he dropped out of high school, 북공고.

There's a note going around the Internet that's supposed to be the note he wrote when he quit school, but IT'S FAKE.

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소문 1. 자퇴할 때 떠돌던 글을 직접 쓴게 맞나?

"그거 오보에요. 자퇴할 때 글을 썼다고 했는데 제가 쓴게 아니에요. 그리고 글에서 보면 제가 가수로 활동한 이후의 문구도 있잖아요. 사실이 아니에요"
(from his interview on the 3rd)



I love how Seotaiji fans have a pretty good reputation ;D

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이번 ETP페스트 팬 이벤트 중 가장 아이디어가 반짝이는 이벤트는 '피가 모자라'는 타이틀로 진행되는 헌혈증 모으기 행사다. 전시회 부스 근처에서 헌혈증을 모아 정기적으로 서태지마니아라는 이름으로 기부를 할 예정이다. '피가 모자라'는 서태지와 아이들 3집 앨범 수록곡 '교실이데아'를 거꾸로 돌리면 '피가 모자라'라는 말이 들린다고 해 '서태지 사탄설'을 만들었던 서태지의 대표적인 루머다.

You know how Seotaiji got branded as a Satan-worshiper? (-__-) You can apparently hear the words 피가 모자라(Need more blood/I lack blood) in 교실이데아 if you hear it backwards. Seotaiji fans are using that phrase for the title of an event they're having at the ETP fest. They're going to get people to donate blood regularly with the name "Seotaiji Mania." Hehe <3








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Posted 07 August 2008 - 11:16 AM

How come the ratings for his comeback special were so low? And will he be on next week music charts?
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 11:30 AM

^ Well, the thing is that in Korea, the biggest audience for TV now are people who are 40+ years old. People in their teens to their thirties are now mostly watching TV programs on the Internet, and since most Seotaiji fans are in their 20s-30s...

Or maybe, Korea's absorbed too much of the mainstream boyband/girlband "culture" mellow.gif

I rarely find Seotaiji fans my own age(17) and most of them are guys - the girls are too busy fangirling.




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Posted 07 August 2008 - 03:00 PM

where's the mental disorder issue from? the reasons i've listed seemed verified but like you said, the mental problem or whatever are by people that are not fans of STJ. just because they're not fans doesn't mean they're all objective. and why is it that most everyone take it for truth about the reasons i've put? i mean they could be biased and all but that's a seriously majority agreed on "lie" if the reasons i've posted are fake.

and he wrote a note? was it about his health problems or something?

hahaha "Devil worshipper". i heard stj&kids were also shocked about it when they found out. i heard they actually confronted it and said that those words only sound similar to what people were interpreting it as. i'd be shocked too! i guess it's good the mania's are using it for something good though. lulz.

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i put middle school because he hasn't even finished his first year of highschool. his records say his 학력 level ends at 대동중학교.
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