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#3151 User is offline   spyro 

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 10:58 AM

Simon's been suspended indefinitely for his slash to the face

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i personally think thats a more serious hit than bertuzzi's on moore but since it doesnt seem like hollweg really got hurt im guessing he'll probably get a lighter sentence
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 03:20 PM

This is a pretty serious incident. Good thing Hollweg came back and wasnt too injured. That was a dirty play indeed. It was like a baseball swing right into the face.


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Posted 09 March 2007 - 10:14 PM

Honestly, I don't think the Bertuzzi incident was all that serious to begin with. I saw him punch, but I didn't drive him into the ice.. it seemed more like Moore got knocked out and fell head first..

I also wonder how much damage the dogpile did to Moore.

It didn't seem like Bertuzzi had intent to injure. SIMON had intent to injure..
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 06:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjdS8SDc37s

Oh I'm pretty sure Bertuzzi intended to injure all right...

But anyway, I'll agree that Bertuzzi's punch didn't do all the damage to Moore. It did a LOT if not, most damage. But when there's like 2-4 more guys on Moore, it wasn't only from Bertuzzi.

What's this I hear about Chris Simon saying that he should only be suspended 5-6 games? I was hearing this discussed on the radio last night, and as far as I know, for someone who's been in the league as long as Simon, he should definitely know better.

Take your damn season-suspension.
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 10:29 AM

man take off those homer glasses.....

bertuzzi was much worst. bertuzzi chased him down and sucker punched him from behind. thats intent!

but both incidents were bad. and simon should get a lot. but bertuzzi never got enough... but the nhl has such a low standard in suspensions.

edit: he got 15 games

edit2: nhl denied that report... who knows whats going on....

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Posted 10 March 2007 - 06:49 PM

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Islanders' Chris Simon Has Disciplinary Hearing for High-Stick

By Dan Bollerman

March 10 (Bloomberg) -- New York Islanders forward Chris Simon had a disciplinary hearing with the National Hockey League for hitting Ryan Hollweg of the New York Rangers in the face with his stick two nights ago.

Simon and representatives from the Islanders and NHL Players Association met with NHL Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell in New York this morning, the league said in a statement.

Madison Square Garden Network, without saying how it got its information, reported Simon would be suspended for the final 15 games of the regular season and seven playoff games. Campbell said that no decision about a penalty had been made.

``Any report to the contrary is false,'' Campbell said in the league's statement.


Simon, in his 14th NHL season, apologized to Hollweg, his teammates, fans and the league for the hit, in a statement released by the Islanders during the first period of tonight's home game against Washington. He said he'd hoped to ``reach out'' to Hollweg ``in the near future.''

``I was disgusted. There is absolutely no place in hockey for what I did,'' said Simon, who added that he watched the replay of the hit the next morning.

Simon, 35, struck Hollweg with a two-handed swing of his stick in retaliation for a check during the third period of the Rangers' 2-1 win at Nassau Coliseum. Hollweg lay motionless on the ice for a short time and needed stitches to close a cut on his chin.

Simon was ejected from the game with an intent-to-injure penalty and the NHL suspended him indefinitely yesterday.

Similar Incident

The incident was similar to one involving former Boston Bruins defenseman Marty McSorley, who struck Vancouver's Donald Brashear in the head with his stick in 2000. McSorley was suspended for 23 games -- the remainder of that season -- and convicted in Canada of assault. He didn't serve jail time.

Simon said he was ``completely out of it'' after being checked face-first into the boards by a Rangers' player, but he then turned around and hit Hollweg. He said team physicians told him yesterday that he'd sustained a concussion when he was originally checked.

``This in not justification for the danger I put Ryan Hollweg in and the damage I have caused the game,'' Simon said, adding that doctors won't let him travel because of the concussion.


Simon has been suspended four previous times for illegal hits and once for directing a racial slur at Mike Grier in 1997. He's third on the Islanders this season with 75 penalty minutes, and has 10 goals and 17 assists.

Hollweg returned to the ice today, playing almost nine minutes of the Rangers' 3-2 overtime loss in Pittsburgh.
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 12:34 AM

I'll have to disagree with you guys saying there was intent to injure in Bertuzzi's case. There was an intent to start a fight by punching Moore from behind, but he wasn't trying to hurt Moore. I just feel like people aren't separating the outcome of the incident enough, and just throwing it all on Bertuzzi just cause that's what it seemed like.

How I see it is..
Bertuzzi - punch - disorientation, loss of balance, perhaps the concussion
Disoriented Moore - falling, aggravated the concussion
Dog pile with 3-4 200+ pound men on top - cracked vertebrae disc

I think Bertuzzi should've probably lost more money in accordance with the suspension because half a million seems a little too little for the paycheck he was getting, but I don't feel like he did all the damage, but everyone's making him seem like he did. Everyone's saying Bertuzzi's malicious punch on Moore left him with a severe concussion and a cracked vertebrae disc, but no one's saying the event surrounding Bertuzzi's malicious punch on Moore left him with a severe concussion and a cracked vertebrae disc..

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 09:21 AM

well I strongly disagree. but i don't want to drag this thread into a bertuzzi talk when he isn't even playing right now.

but simon basically got suspended for the rest of the season and the playoffs, and maybe more.
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 12:39 PM

Well if it wasnt a lock out year. Bertuzzi wouldve gotten a lot. Heck, during the lock out, he was barred from playing in all leagues. That is enough to hurt someone.


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Posted 11 March 2007 - 07:05 PM

DUDE...CANUCKS.. SUPER SLOPPY TONIGHT. Everyone was out of sync.. 4-minute power play, and we wasted so much of it chasing it down in our own end dry.gif
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 07:26 PM

The Habs came back ! i haven't seen such a good effort by the Habs since mid-December lol

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 11:05 PM

You know who's NOT coming back? SERGEI SAMSONOV.

I wonder how he even goes into the locker-room these days..
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 11:08 PM

Sergei Samsonov = Soft.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 05:48 PM

You know I always thought Samsonov looked a lot like Jim Carrey's character from Dumb and Dumber....
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 06:20 PM

lol he does kinda looks like him. I'm just glad we won't be seeing him play for the habs again

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 08:41 PM

who thinks he'll be out of a job at the end of the season.. along with Bertuzzi?
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 08:47 PM

I say a pathetic team that signs no one but one (or two, maybe three) hit wonder players will pick him up.

Hey sounds like the Leafs dry.gif
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:13 PM

Toronto will at least bid for Big Bert =| count on it. he even said he wanted to be in Tdot... zZZZZZ
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Posted 17 March 2007 - 09:12 PM

Okay..who has an update on Robidas' injury? That was one nasty punch by Tootoo...
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Posted 17 March 2007 - 10:50 PM

That was a nasty punch. Tootoo will get a long suspension like Simons, probably not as long but still will be around the 20 games mark.

But what a great game by the canucks today. 60 min game but the PP stunk but all in all. Great game. Wheres frostbite? thought he said he will eat his pubic hair if Calgary did not win the Division.


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