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#3401 User is offline   F r 0 s t t 

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 05:54 PM

Wow.. I really feel that the Rangers got robbed.. Especially with the Nylander goal.. Seriously, Buffalo's getting alotta leeway and they're getting alotta lucky calls..

Cause Briere crosschecking Lundqvist into the net isn't a penalty?
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#3402 User is offline   DOVAHKIIN 

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE(Tuffcore @ May 4 2007, 05:45 PM) View Post
^ i didn't hear that one but i heard some guy calling into team1040 this morning and saying the same thing. He basically said AV had all season to tweak the PP but failed to do so. Personally, i just don't think he had the skill on the PP to do anything. It's not AV's fault. He's up for coach of the year for a reason.

Overall, the Canucks had a great season. I think they can hold their heads up high after going to the second round. They are set-up well for next season too. Luongo is the franchise player. Bourdon and Edler are NHL ready. Get rid of Sopel and the backend looks solid.

Beiksa - Mitchell
Ohlund - Salo
Bourdon - Edler
x: Krajicek, Fitzpatrick

Luongo
x: Sabourin

I think there needs to be a facelift on the forwards though. The Canucks need to generate more scoring. If Naslund can be traded, then do so. Same can be said of Morrison. Together, those two make $9million and they don't produce enough offensively. Replace the second line with new players. Bring back Linden for cheap.

Sedin - Sedin - Pyatt
($3mil free agent) - ($3mil free agent) - ($3mil free agent)
Cowan - Kesler - Cooke
Burrows - Linden - Reid/Smith/whoever


I smell a trade with Detroit, Buffalo or Ottawa if you're looking for offensive guns.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE(morgan.de.toi @ May 4 2007, 11:45 AM) View Post
anyway, did any of you guys mistake the ducks fans as empty seats
or was that just me >.>


That still doesn't hide the fact your team can't score even if their lives depended on it.

Just feel lucky for getting this far.
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 12:26 AM

^^lol.. it's not luck.. it's a growing team that's getting better thats all.. though i do agree that the nucks offense isn't all there.. but give em a year or two^^
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 09:58 AM

QUOTE(Kit_Starter @ May 4 2007, 11:19 PM) View Post
That still doesn't hide the fact your team can't score even if their lives depended on it.

Just feel lucky for getting this far.



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i think you misunderstood what i meant.
i'm not sure if it was the orange hats that the fans were wearing, or the shirts or something,
but they looked exactly like the seats at the rink.
i kept on thinking "wow, that place is empty! no wonder i could hear the canucks fans"
only to realize, by squinting, that there are little heads attatched to those "empty seats"


i'm sorry, but i deffinetly do not think our team made it this far by "luck".
only luck we have is that we're lucky to have luongo.
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE(Kit_Starter @ May 4 2007, 11:19 PM) View Post
That still doesn't hide the fact your team can't score even if their lives depended on it.

Just feel lucky for getting this far.

You got to agree that this year was a new start for the Canucks, a rebuilding year. 13 new players on the team. This off-season will be a year where we start building onto the current roster and support Luongo with some more offense. Especially with the 4 million increase in salary cap.

Also, what does empty seats and offence have to do with anything? trying to change the topic? can't admit that anahiem is not a very strong hockey market?


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Posted 06 May 2007 - 08:02 AM

QUOTE(Chioster @ May 5 2007, 11:57 PM) View Post
You got to agree that this year was a new start for the Canucks, a rebuilding year. 13 new players on the team. This off-season will be a year where we start building onto the current roster and support Luongo with some more offense. Especially with the 4 million increase in salary cap.

Also, what does empty seats and offence have to do with anything? trying to change the topic? can't admit that anahiem is not a very strong hockey market?


It's not that strong of a hockey market anywhere in the states... except like Detroit.

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 12:54 PM

^^You don't watch hockey much do you? I think the Flyers are known for having a huge fanbase and if you ever watch a Rangers game @ MSG.. Well you'd know what I'm talking about :]

Anyways.. Rangers had a good run.. Noone expected them to get as far as they did, plus they went up to par with the Sabres.. There's always next year T_T

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 03:40 PM

Heres a list of established hockey markets in the states imo of course.

Buffalo
Detroit
Minnesota
Philly
Pittsburg
Colorodo
New York Rangers
San Jose (lil borderline here but they do have a passionate fanbase)
Dallas

btw, Los Angelas is the dominant team in LA, not the Ducks. Not like that means much anyways cuz its not really a stable fanbase.
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Posted 06 May 2007 - 04:38 PM

^^Dominant as in fanbase or skill? Cause LA hasn't really been up there.. Plus we got a HUGE deal in acquiring Sean Avery for one of those Wards we had lol
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Posted 06 May 2007 - 06:39 PM

Well some of the teams listed above are bandwagon teams. Where were the Buffalo fans when the teams were out of the playoffs every year? But it can be said about many cities but some cities live and die for the team, and Buffalo is not one of them.


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Posted 06 May 2007 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE(F r 0 s t t @ May 6 2007, 04:54 PM) View Post
^^You don't watch hockey much do you? I think the Flyers are known for having a huge fanbase and if you ever watch a Rangers game @ MSG.. Well you'd know what I'm talking about :]


Uhh, I watch plenty of hockey. I keep my eyes on games constantly for my hockey pools, fantasy teams and bets. If I don't watch the games, I watch the highlights and clips on TSN, SportsNet and The Score EVERY NIGHT.

Compare Flyers/Rangers' fanbases to any Canadian team's. You turn on weekend hockey featuring a Canadian team at home, the arena's packed. Most American teams = noticeable vacant seats. THEREFORE, not a strong fanbase OVERALL.

Hockey comes like 3rd-4th in fanbases behind football, basketball and occasionally baseball in the States.

Kings were an established team during the years they had Gretzky, Rangers were one of the Original Six, so they're really established. Not to mention when they had Gretzky, it got even better.
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Posted 06 May 2007 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE(F r 0 s t t @ May 6 2007, 05:38 PM) View Post
^^Dominant as in fanbase or skill? Cause LA hasn't really been up there.. Plus we got a HUGE deal in acquiring Sean Avery for one of those Wards we had lol


maybe the wayne gretzky days.

and i like the ducks more than kings because i got into hockey watching mighty ducks. tongue.gif

but im not a big hockey fan in general. although i did pay $100 bux to see the kings first row once.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 01:32 AM

Ehh even in the Gretzky days.. He was the only one who was dominant.. The Kings were hardly any good lol.. You can check the stats, why else did you think they had to give him up?

True that hockey's definetly greater in Canada, but I can definetly tell you Ranger fans are up to par with you guys.. I mean, I've been to tons of Ranger games at the garden and I gotta tell ya, they're ALWAYS packed.. There's no other arena like MSG.. If you're ever in the area during the season.. Stop by for a game and you'll know exactly what I mean!
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:19 PM

Don't forget the Kings also had Marcel Dionne, Dave Taylor, and Luc Robitaille over the years to keep the fans into their game.

Mighty Ducks had their fans from... their movies tongue.gif, followed by the successful years with Selenne and Kariya.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:12 PM

Gomez wants to sign in Western Canada, Either Edmonton, Calgary, or Vancouver. But since Vancouver is where his family lives and where he lives in the summer. I guess he will sign here biggrin.gif.


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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:23 PM

I can't wait for the Buffalo vs Ottawa series, it should be a really good one

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE(Chioster @ May 7 2007, 11:12 PM) View Post
Gomez wants to sign in Western Canada, Either Edmonton, Calgary, or Vancouver. But since Vancouver is where his family lives and where he lives in the summer. I guess he will sign here biggrin.gif.


That's not a bad idea, having Scott Gomez in Vancouver.

Signing on an established sniper should also be important. Pyatt should be a 20-25 goal scorer next season and COULD be a 30+ if he pulls a Jonathan Cheechoo, but grabbing another scorer wouldn't be that bad of an idea.

Dear Canucks, get Paul Kariya!

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:57 PM

^^You can definetly expect some fights! haha..

No doubt Gomez is probably goin' to a new team next year.. But you can't be sure yet tongue.gif There's always last minute decisions..

I think Shanahan was supposed to go to Calgary or Vancouver but fortunetly for a passport mistake or somethin at the airport.. He came to check out New York instead and signed here!

So you never konw^^
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 08:05 PM

Well NJ wants some help in the back end. They have to let go of one of the big 3. Gomez, Elias, or Gionta. I think Gomez might be the odd man out.


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