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#3951 User is offline   resolution.se7en 

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Posted 13 July 2008 - 10:23 AM

Demitra and Naslund had virtually the same number of points last season and unlike Naslund has been frequently hampered by injury over the past four NHL seasons.

Demitra is an upgrade...but hardly a better one.... The Canucks better hope that Demitra is a selling point..


A few sources in Vancouver are speculating that a trade involving the canucks and devils could be on the horizon. It is said that the Nucks are shopping rugged d-man Kevin Bieksa for speedy devil forward Brian Gionta, this would make sense as bieksa is making 3.75 million this year and Gionta is making 4 million. This would then still leave the 10 million needed to sign Mats Sundin."

Anyone hear about the 11 year extension Lecavalier got today?

Canucks need goals.


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Posted 13 July 2008 - 10:33 AM

But Demitra put up those points in 20 less games. But if Demitra somehow stays healthy, what kind of points can he put up and with who? He is quite an upgrade from Naslund.

The Gionta trade makes a lot of sense but at the same time, Gionta will be a UFA next year so is it worth taking the risk? If it was a trade, it will be

Bieksa + Pyatt/Pettinger for Gionta

The Life long deal Vinny got was quite a deal. Locked him up for the rest of his life and it doesn't have a NTC so if something happens to Vinny, he can be waived or traded.

Lastly, the main reason the Canucks lack goals last year was the style of play we were playing. We were playing a defense style game where we only attack when the opposition made a mistake aka, THE TRAP! or the left wing lock. It can also do with the personnels we had but this year, during the Demitra interview, he was talking about how Gillis promised a high tempo offensive game this year so maybe this is the reason he gave Vigneault the extension. He told Vigneault that it is either play offensive hockey or you get fired like your assistances.


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Posted 13 July 2008 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (resolution.se7en @ Jul 13 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My idea of a top 6 is a core of 6 players who can at least put up a point a game from at least one of those 6 players. Remember-the Canucks scored the 3rd lowest amount of goals in the West and I think they lost a chunk of their games by one goal. (Anyone remember that do or die game vs. Edmonton where the final was like 2-1? Then we lost to Calgary 7-1?)


Well Demitra had 54pts in 68 games...I'm sure the othe 5 players can scored in those 14 other game and satisfy your theory.


I would LOVE to see Kovalchuk here but I agree with Choister, that leaves us looking for yet another center. Plus we can't expect Bernier to put up better numbers anymore since he won't have the twins to set him up anymore.


And I can't believe the Vinny deal...DON'T PEOPLE LEARN THAT LONG-TERM DEALS ARE USUALLY BAD??? One name.......Yashin.

I'm surprised that both sides agreed to this. Ya, Vinny loves it there and can prob see himself being a Lightning forever but who knows what will happen in the future, things can change his perspective. And what if he starts to suck ala Yashin? Good like trying to trade this guy with THAT contract strapped on.
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Posted 28 September 2008 - 06:55 PM

WELLWOOD FTW! Wow, Wellwood is becoming quite a star in Vancouver already. Before you know it, he will be in McDonald's and Burger King commercials biggrin.gif


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Posted 01 October 2008 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (Chioster @ Sep 28 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WELLWOOD FTW! Wow, Wellwood is becoming quite a star in Vancouver already. Before you know it, he will be in McDonald's and Burger King commercials biggrin.gif


Somebody on CDC predicted, wait, ASSURED everybody that Wellwood would be a 50 goal scorer by the end of the season. I like the Bernier-Sedin-Sedin line. And I really like Davison's playing style.

2-0 Canucks! Edler's goal was completely unexpected.

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:12 AM

The Raymond-Demitra-Pyatt line did very very well too yesterday. Burrows-Kesler-Hansen did extremely well

Sedin-Sedin-Bernier
Raymond-Demitra-Pyatt
Burrows-Kesler-Hansen
Pettinger-Johnson-Hordichuk
Cowan and Wellwood

Ohlund-Salo
Mitchell-Bieksa
Edler-Krajicek
Davison

Luongo
Sanford

Send Hodgson back to Brampton
Grabner and Schneider needs more time in the AHL



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#3957 User is offline   pandi.x 

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 04:46 PM

heyy...wow! i haven't written in this thread in ages ...
^^''

The Canucks did an awesome job this pre-season!!

and even though we lost yesterday , our plays were amazing ...
Raymond and Demitra & the Burrows,Kesler and Hansen line have really good chemistry. ^____^

I can't wait till the reg season!!

The first game should be a blast!

( Im going ...YAY!!)
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 10:37 AM

Vancouver trades
Krajicek
Simek

to Tampa

Ouellet
O'Brien

That just strengthens our back end even more and is now tough.

Mitchell-Bieksa
Ohlund-Salo
Edler-O'Brien
Davison

Our 4th line is the only line that still needs to be put together with the likes of

Brown, Rypien, Johnson, Hordichuk, Wellwood

Krog, Cowan, Pettinger have been put on waivers and sent down to the minors.


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Posted 09 October 2008 - 09:24 PM

6-0 Canucks vs Flames.

Why hello Canucks offense, where have you been for these past few years?

Leafs over Wings, wtf.
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#3960 User is offline   Chioster 

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:13 AM

The canucks played with heavy hearts and played extremely well. This team finally is showing speed which dashed around the Flames D all night. You can see it during the Flames PP in the 3rd in which Rypien just dashed between both D and scored that nice breakaway goal. Our lines are pretty much set with Brown and Wellwood being our 13th and 14th forwards with Davison and O'Brien sharing the 6th D spot.

So resolution se7en, what were you saying about the Canucks offense? biggrin.gif and Demitra? Demitra is creating his own plays out there. Naslund needed people to create plays for him. Naslund in the 03-04 could do that but he lost his touch. Demitra is so strong with his vision in the right boards is scary. How many cross-ice passes did he make yesterday right on the stick and created great scoring chances? Like 10 maybe.


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Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:46 AM

Sarah Palin's dropping the first puck at the Flyers/Rangers game tonight! Lol should be interesting
I really wanna go :c but I'm busy tonighttt waaaah

oh well i can always watch it on tv later :l

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#3962 User is offline   trankimuyen 

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 05:34 PM

The Canucks are taking on the Flames again tonight! Robyn Regehr is back tonight, this should be quite interesting...

And the Habs are killing the Leafs right now 6-1! biggrin.gif

ms cowie are you serious?! SARAH PALIN is going to drop the puck?!

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wow, are you serious?
originally would've been goalie interference to conroy and because of a little bit of embellishment, lou gets an unsportsmanlike conduct?!
i hope bieksa's okay...=/

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 08:20 PM

Poor Bert getting that bad boarding call late in the 3rd...

Oh well...

That's what happens...

When you play...

FOR THE YUCKY FLAMES!!!

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go nucks

P.S. Any news on Bieksa?
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Posted 12 October 2008 - 08:34 PM

... Sarah Palin dropped the puck sleep.gif

Right-wing prospect... in politics.

I hope to never hear her name in the name of hockey again.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (jonogunn @ Oct 12 2008, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Poor Bert getting that bad boarding call late in the 3rd...

Oh well...

That's what happens...

When you play...

FOR THE YUCKY FLAMES!!!

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go nucks

P.S. Any news on Bieksa?

Mild sprained knee and should recover before the weekend.

Update

RIP Cherepanov. Poor Rangers. The KHL is definitely cursed, first the Markanen baby incident and now this. My condolences to the Ranger Organization and to the family of Cherepanov.


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Posted 13 October 2008 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (Chioster @ Oct 13 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mild sprained knee and should recover before the weekend.

Update

RIP Cherepanov. Poor Rangers. The KHL is definitely cursed, first the Markanen baby incident and now this. My condolences to the Ranger Organization and to the family of Cherepanov.


YIKES I know! That's a very vague and creepy way to die, =/
And god, the Canucks are looking miserable right now! I love how the bandwagon is already 50% lighter, 'ZOMG, IT'S GAME 3 AND WE'RE DOWN 5-1, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFZ ZOOOOMGGGGG'.
Gotta love Vancouver, :]

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:43 PM

wow!
that was a horrible game!
Everything was out of place...
hopefully we will play better against the former Stanley cup champions.
^^''

and hopefully Hordi will play that one.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:55 PM

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NEW YORK (AP) — Alexei Cherepanov, a 19-year-old first-round draft pick of the New York Rangers, died Monday during a Continental Hockey League game in Russia. Former Rangers captain Jaromir Jagr played a shift with Cherepanov and was talking to his young Avangard Omsk teammate on the bench shortly after they left the ice, when Cherepanov suddenly collapsed, said a Rangers spokesman who talked to Jagr.



ARCHIVE: View coverage of 2007 draft GAME REPORT: Rangers drop Devils 4-1 There was no collision that preceded the collapse, the spokesman said, but few other details were available. Cherepanov scored the first goal of the game and had eight in 15 contests this season, his third with Avangard Omsk.

"It was really kind of a surreal thing for the players," Cherepanov's agent Jay Grossman said. "He was skating in on a 2-on-1 with Jaromir and then they came back to the bench. Jaromir was talking to him and he told him he has to score on that play. The next thing you know, he collapsed.

"(Jagr) went with him into the dressing room area and they revived him for some time and then he didn't make it."

FIND MORE STORIES IN: Madison Square Garden | New York Rangers | New Jersey Devils | Calgary Flames | Jaromir Jagr | Tom Renney | Glen Sather | Avangard Omsk | Continental Hockey League | Jay Grossman | Russian Elite League | Wayne Fleming Grossman said Cherepanov was eventually taken to the hospital, but he was unable to be saved.

"I don't know the specifics, but I've heard that there wasn't an ambulance there (at the arena), that it had left, and that there were problems with the defibrillator that they had there," Grossman said. "Other than that, no details. I don't know if that would've necessarily made a difference."

The Rangers announced the death of Cherepanov shortly before they played at home against the New Jersey Devils. New York coach Tom Renney said his club was not aware of any health issues with Cherepanov.

"He's a Ranger and I think it'll have an impact on people," Renney said. "We're going to have to deal with it in our own personal way, but in the interest of a bright, young life that's over we're going to have to pursue the objective of tonight and that's get two points from New Jersey."

A pregame moment of silence was observed at Madison Square Garden as Cherepanov's picture was displayed in the midst of a black background on the center ice video board.

"The first thing we can do is honor him with a great effort tonight," Renney said.

Grossman said Cherepanov had testing at the NHL combine before last year's draft that didn't reveal any heart problems. He has been told that players in the KHL receive regular heart and blood tests, similar to those given in the NHL.

Cherepanov surprisingly slipped to the Rangers during the 2007 NHL draft and they grabbed him with the 17th pick. The talented forward dropped because of concerns about his signability and the potential difficulty in getting him to leave Russia.

"He was an exceptionally talented kid," Grossman said. "He played in the Russian Elite League, in the men's league, even before he was drafted which in and of itself is an achievement. He was a self-motivated kid that had an inner-confidence about him. A real good attitude."

New York assistant coach Mike Pelino recently returned from a one-week trip to Russia where he watched Cherepanov play and then dined with him and Jagr.

The Rangers maintained a good relationship with Omsk and the club's general manager even though there has been feuding between the NHL and Russia's KHL.

The future appeared bright for Cherepanov, and the Rangers said he definitely figured in their plans.

"I was shocked when I heard. I thought it must be a misprint or something because he just had so much going for him," Pelino said. "He was someone who I was really excited about and thought, 'Wow, we did get something special here.'

"He had things to work on. We felt he had to become a little stronger still, he had to probably become a little bit more aware defensively. But as far as raw talent went and the ability to score, he was great."

Renney kept tabs on Cherepanov every few weeks by checking in with Jagr and new Omsk coach Wayne Fleming, who recently left an assistant coaching position with the Calgary Flames to take the job in Russia.

Renney said Jagr told him that Cherepanov could probably play on New York's second line now.

"Alexei was an intelligent, energetic young man, with tremendous talent and an extremely bright future," Rangers general manager Glen Sather said in a statement. "We are extremely saddened."





so sad...and so young...r.i.p



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Posted 13 October 2008 - 09:13 PM

First Bourdon now this =(. Too many young players...


I heard Jagr was crying, screaming trying to wake him up =\
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 12:05 PM

RIP Cherepanov. I can't believe he died at such a young age with so much ahead of him.


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On a side note, being a Sharks fan, the game against the Flyers was amazing. I don't know if any of you guys saw it, but it was the best so far this season and I cannot wait until the rematch on Wednesday.

On the western conference, I'm surprised to see the Ducks so low seeded. Can't believe the Blues are starting well haha.


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