so I'm currently enrolled in a driving school. well my it seems like my instructor is pissed off because the engine of the car i was driving keeps shutting off. yup the problem is not the car. it's me. fyi. i'm driving a manual car. so i really need help and tips in preventing the car engine from shutting off. especially in traffic you know. how to get ongoing the working level mode.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:54 AM
well, i'm also new at driving, but i just finished my course a few months ago..
when you feel like it's going to die down, press on the clutch so the engine wouldn't shut off..
that's what my instructor's been telling me whenever it'll die down..
i had the same problem, you just gotta practice controlling the clutch..
hope i was able to help..
when you feel like it's going to die down, press on the clutch so the engine wouldn't shut off..
that's what my instructor's been telling me whenever it'll die down..
i had the same problem, you just gotta practice controlling the clutch..
hope i was able to help..
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 09:36 AM
Your instructor should have spent the first session going over friction point on the clutch with you. I since I did it switched to auto lessons because a bunch of morons were honking at a newbie driver (me) when I stalled at an intersection, but I know enough about driving manual to be able to drive in a parking lot etc.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 04:35 PM
QUOTE (ikay @ Sep 7 2009, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well, i'm also new at driving, but i just finished my course a few months ago..
when you feel like it's going to die down, press on the clutch so the engine wouldn't shut off..
that's what my instructor's been telling me whenever it'll die down..
i had the same problem, you just gotta practice controlling the clutch..
hope i was able to help..
when you feel like it's going to die down, press on the clutch so the engine wouldn't shut off..
that's what my instructor's been telling me whenever it'll die down..
i had the same problem, you just gotta practice controlling the clutch..
hope i was able to help..
Hey you're from the Philippines too. which driving school are you enrolled to.?
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 07:57 AM
Manual? Don't worry, we were all newbies when we started.
Does this happen when you start your car moving in 1st, or when you stop your car?
Try practicing yourself or with a sibling. Try finding where the "engagement point" is, where as you let go of the clutch, the engine begins to pull back with the transmission. Find an empty parking place or a street where there is little traffic. Put it into first gear, and slowly let go of the clutch without applying gas. (i'm been told this method doesn't work for all cars, but it works on mine, and this is how I learned.) When you feel the car move, push in the clutch and stop the car with your brakes and put it into neutral. Then try it again but add some bit of gas, When you feel the engagement point, and the car moves, add some gas.
When you stop, Do NOT downshift to make your car stop. I don't know why people like this method.
Just push in the clutch and put the Gear in to Neutral and stop the car with your brakes. Or you can push the breaks and then, before the cars stops, push in the clutch and put the gear into neutral.
Simple. Plus, brakes cost less to service than your Transmission.
Does this happen when you start your car moving in 1st, or when you stop your car?
Try practicing yourself or with a sibling. Try finding where the "engagement point" is, where as you let go of the clutch, the engine begins to pull back with the transmission. Find an empty parking place or a street where there is little traffic. Put it into first gear, and slowly let go of the clutch without applying gas. (i'm been told this method doesn't work for all cars, but it works on mine, and this is how I learned.) When you feel the car move, push in the clutch and stop the car with your brakes and put it into neutral. Then try it again but add some bit of gas, When you feel the engagement point, and the car moves, add some gas.
When you stop, Do NOT downshift to make your car stop. I don't know why people like this method.
Just push in the clutch and put the Gear in to Neutral and stop the car with your brakes. Or you can push the breaks and then, before the cars stops, push in the clutch and put the gear into neutral.
Simple. Plus, brakes cost less to service than your Transmission.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 08:12 AM
lol i learned how to drive in a manual too. it's annoying at first, but once you get used to it, it's more exciting than driving an automatic.
it could be because you're releasing the clutch far too quickly. release it slower.
or it could be you're not pressing on the gas enough or pressing on it too much. practice and you will eventually get used to the "perfect" amount.
those were the mistakes i made when i first started driving a manual.
it could be because you're releasing the clutch far too quickly. release it slower.
or it could be you're not pressing on the gas enough or pressing on it too much. practice and you will eventually get used to the "perfect" amount.
those were the mistakes i made when i first started driving a manual.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 11:10 AM
The biggest tip I can offer is that you need to watch your tachometer as much, if not more so, than your speedometer. It's important to monitor your engine rpm's because each gear has a minimum rpm it must be over until the engine stalls, as well as optimizing fuel consumption, among other things. The rpm minimum gets higher with each gear and differs from car to car. Usually the rpm minimum is something like:
1st: 600rpm
2nd: 800rpm
3rd: 1,000 rpm
4th: 1,200 rpm
5th: 1,400 rpm
You'll know you're at the minimum rpm when the car starts to shake and you can hear the engine struggle to maintain itself, at which point you either need to apply more gas to get the rpm up (if accelerating) or downshift (if decelerating).
Also, a lot of people like to put the car in neutral when at a stop light. Me personally, I like to leave it in gear just in case an emergency comes up and I need to get out of the way quickly.
Downshifting to slow down a car is known as engine braking. Aggressive engine braking does increase wear and tear on the transmission, however it's also dangerous to just use only the brakes when trying to slow down going downhill or any sort of extended braking. The braking system is not meant to be used alone in slowing down a car, it's meant to be used alongside moderate engine braking. That's because when using only the brake system alone, it's possible to overheat the brakes... which is a bad thing, because it's dangerous. One thing that's been known to happen to people extensively using the brakes to slow down while in neutral is that the brake fluid overheats and comes to a boil. When that happens, all of a sudden the brake pedal hits the floor and feels really light, but there's no braking power at all. Especially bad when going downhill because then there's no other means to slow down the car other than engine braking.
Instead, it's best to just leave the car in gear (downshifting only when at the current gear's minimum rpm before stalling the engine) and use the brakes to slow down. This provides adequate engine braking without providing the additional wear and tear on the transmission.
Aggressive engine braking (downshifting at high rpm's, rather than at the gear's minimum rpm) should only be used in emergencies to increase overall deceleration and only by trained drivers that know how to use it. That's because the higher the rpm when downshifting, the greater the engine braking effect... if the rpm's are too high the wheels will lock (known as shift lock).
You'll also hear people talk about shifting into neutral when going downhill because it saves gas. On modern cars, that's not true because of a thing called Deceleration Fuel Cut-Off... basically it cut's off the fuel when you take your foot off the gas pedal while in gear and the wheels are still turning.
1st: 600rpm
2nd: 800rpm
3rd: 1,000 rpm
4th: 1,200 rpm
5th: 1,400 rpm
You'll know you're at the minimum rpm when the car starts to shake and you can hear the engine struggle to maintain itself, at which point you either need to apply more gas to get the rpm up (if accelerating) or downshift (if decelerating).
Also, a lot of people like to put the car in neutral when at a stop light. Me personally, I like to leave it in gear just in case an emergency comes up and I need to get out of the way quickly.
QUOTE (DarkMagician @ Sep 8 2009, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When you stop, Do NOT downshift to make your car stop. I don't know why people like this method.
Just push in the clutch and put the Gear in to Neutral and stop the car with your brakes. Or you can push the breaks and then, before the cars stops, push in the clutch and put the gear into neutral.
Simple. Plus, brakes cost less to service than your Transmission.
Just push in the clutch and put the Gear in to Neutral and stop the car with your brakes. Or you can push the breaks and then, before the cars stops, push in the clutch and put the gear into neutral.
Simple. Plus, brakes cost less to service than your Transmission.
Downshifting to slow down a car is known as engine braking. Aggressive engine braking does increase wear and tear on the transmission, however it's also dangerous to just use only the brakes when trying to slow down going downhill or any sort of extended braking. The braking system is not meant to be used alone in slowing down a car, it's meant to be used alongside moderate engine braking. That's because when using only the brake system alone, it's possible to overheat the brakes... which is a bad thing, because it's dangerous. One thing that's been known to happen to people extensively using the brakes to slow down while in neutral is that the brake fluid overheats and comes to a boil. When that happens, all of a sudden the brake pedal hits the floor and feels really light, but there's no braking power at all. Especially bad when going downhill because then there's no other means to slow down the car other than engine braking.
Instead, it's best to just leave the car in gear (downshifting only when at the current gear's minimum rpm before stalling the engine) and use the brakes to slow down. This provides adequate engine braking without providing the additional wear and tear on the transmission.
Aggressive engine braking (downshifting at high rpm's, rather than at the gear's minimum rpm) should only be used in emergencies to increase overall deceleration and only by trained drivers that know how to use it. That's because the higher the rpm when downshifting, the greater the engine braking effect... if the rpm's are too high the wheels will lock (known as shift lock).
You'll also hear people talk about shifting into neutral when going downhill because it saves gas. On modern cars, that's not true because of a thing called Deceleration Fuel Cut-Off... basically it cut's off the fuel when you take your foot off the gas pedal while in gear and the wheels are still turning.
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