[BAZINGA!]

Argh, I just can't explain it. Maybe if you saw my pic then you'd know what I mean.

Haha, I'm sure your fine, if anything it's just chub?

[Mr. Chan]

Haha, I'm sure your fine, if anything it's just chub?

It's blasphemous.

[BAZINGA!]

It's blasphemous.

ROFL. Okay. IFFFF you say you're fat, then I guess you are!

[Mr. Chan]

Yes. And I do apologize for clustering this thread up with nonsense.

[kerupi]

Despite the numbers, I'm actually quite fat.

Also, I think if we motivate each other, perhaps we can improve on cutting some pounds?

Mr Chan - I was bloody cracking up once I did the conversion, err yeah yeah you just earnt your nickname from me Mr Chanonsense (I think you may need toning by the sounds of it )

Anyways, erure how old are ya? Must be over 20 aye cause of this thread?

I'm fat and I don't know... It's hard to change your lifestyle, even though logically, losing weight is really the only option. I don't expect kindness from people anymore because I'm fat, and I'm almost always walking around with my eyes staring at the ground, hoping that I'm invisible (but probably failing at it).

eure, just because you're fat doesn't make you any less of a person nor should it make you feel like an outcast I don't know your lifestyle but you don't have to make big changes, just little ones to start will do and also, fark what other people think

You know, just because a person is fat does not necessarily mean they lack self confidence I use to swim against this tall, big dude at my last apartment complex - what you mean he was an arrogant pr1ck

nadishnoon - I love swimming, what sort of swimming workouts do you do?

eure - I have a fitness program, walk/jog/run if you are interested, it is good and works

hax, triple & Chan - how come you 3 been here a while and don't have many posts? are these your alternative accounts

[Tuffcore]

We should have a Soompi's Biggest Loser for the 20+ forum...

[Yubumsuk]

The whole 'can they help it?' debate is one that just makes no sence genetically. Look at Americans two generations ago and look at them now. Something's sure changed but it's not their natural bodies. If fat Americans went back to the lands of their ancestors they sure wouldn't find that many overweight people. Why? Because it's not genetic - it's lifestyle.

Every autumn I go to a large conference in Seoul, attended by about 1,200 people. Of the attendees, it's more or less 49% whites, 49% Asians, and maybe 2% other. Seeing white-Asian-white-Asian-white-white-Asian-Asian sitting in a row I'm suddenly reminded of how bloody fat white people have got. At the conference some of the white people can't even fit into the desks (designed for Sookmyung Women's University students) and have to sit at a chair or stand at the back. Seriously, it's like half of all westerners have ceased being anatomically normal anymore.

I'm sure there are a huge number of reasons behind this, and no doubt other parts of the world are quickly catching up, but I'm positive lifestyle choice is the biggest factor. American PC idiots and Christians preach about why others shouldn't smoke and drink while shovelling deep-fried fast food into mouths after a day of avoiding any physical strain whatsoever. I'm sure that just eating non-processed foods and having to walk 30 minutes to work or school every day would lower the average weight by a good ten pounds in a matter of months.

[Hax]

hax, triple & Chan - how come you 3 been here a while and don't have many posts? are these your alternative accounts

Doesn't it make more sense for YOU to have the alternative account? Who posts over 700 times as an ALTERNATIVE account? o_o.

[~Sw33tz~]

No I haven't been against fat people. I have met some of the nicest people of all different shapes and sizes, and I never discriminate against them. Only, when they themselves are just horrible people. But then horrible people also come in a variety of shapes and sizes too.

But generally, no. I do sometimes wonder about how they complain that they can't lose weight, when they are not physically active because their heart is not healthy enough, and still eats a lot of junk food. I have found that cutting junk food does make a huge difference for a lot of people. I hardly eat junk food, only once in a while, and after cutting out a lot, the weight does go down. I haven't been a thin person, nor have I been obese.

Sizes don't change people. Some larger people have a lot more self confidence than me. I refuse to wear sleeve-less tops unless it is just deadly hot, as I think my arms are not thin enough. Whilst some other person's arm is twice my size and they proudly show them off. That is actually hot, when someone has self confidence, it is just amazing. She is the most gorgeous and most down to earth girl I know, she is sexy in her own way and you breeze past her overweight-ness and just find her beautiful.

I think I should go and get my thyroids checked hehe. I swear my metabolism is slow... and I take after my grandmother who just plateaus at a weight. I have hit that plateau and I hate it. But I do think eating less works, it shows, but somehow my scales refuses to budge. I don't get it, my clothes are looser, but scales are same. Unless I over-stretched my clothes so they are all now big....... *sigh* the pain of not being slim...

[kerupi]

Doesn't it make more sense for YOU to have the alternative account? Who posts over 700 times as an ALTERNATIVE account? o_o.

it would do but I'm spanking new

I'm use to seeing post counts over 1k from users with membership lengths such as yours

[aznfury]

You inspire me.
The ajhusshi comments were ===>
Good luck !!

Aww, thank you ^^ I've never inspired anyone before haha
I didn't take the ajeosshi's comments as harsh since he was just curious though it did question why I let myself go
If I can lose 75 lbs/34 kg, anyone can with just pure determination.

[[HyuNi]]

ORLY.
LOL. I'm not a chubby chaser per say... but hugging someone with a little meat on them is better than a cardboard. Although a guy with a nice body is damn hot to look at. SUCH DILEMMA. HAHA.

hahaha that made me

hax, triple & Chan - how come you 3 been here a while and don't have many posts? are these your alternative accounts

Hmm... I've had this account for 4 years and just this the 1k mark this year.
I've been a lurker for quite some time

-

I don't treat obese people differently than I do anyone else, but like Lie said, I don't feel an attraction towards women who are obese.

Weight loss is actually a very simple concept.
Calorie intake > Calories burned = weight gain
Calorie intake < Calories burned = weight loss
The DIFFICULT part of the equation is that everyone's bodies are different and there's people who normally eat more than others and even worse, have a low metabolism. Sure, life isn't fair... but everyone should live within their means, kinda like a financial budget. If you know you have a slow metabolism, and you want to lose weight, you'll have to eat less than someone who has a fast metabolism.

Back when I was studying for my masters, I got up to 195 lbs. For a 5'11" guy who has a relatively 'normal' body frame, I was overweight. I was lethargic, habitually ate more, stopped working out, and just felt crappy.
After I graduated, realizing how I'd let myself go and the mental and physical constraints I experienced, I decided to change my attitude and lifestyle. Fast forward a year and half later and I lost 30 lbs. Through proper diet, exercise, constistent active routine and overall healthy lifestyle, I was able to shed the pounds and keep them off.

The really positive aspect of exercising is that it gives me a sense of accomplishment. It pushes you to do better, work harder, and last longer. It's such a confidence booster knowing that I can break through my limits. After a good work-out, I feel like I can do anything!
I thought about it and realized that I'm actually lifting over 10,000 lbs in just one weight training session! (i.e. bench 135lbs 12x - 155lbs 10x - 175lbs 8x = 4,570lbs) Couple that with the rest of the weight's I lift and that's well over 10,000 in a span of an hour or two!

The results accurately represent the amount of time and effort you put into it.

[Mr. Chan]

hax, triple & Chan - how come you 3 been here a while and don't have many posts? are these your alternative accounts

I'm usually lurking, but I'm starting to post more often.

[dancingbymyself]

Honestly.. I do have a prejudice about fat people. They can have great personalities,
and I have a few friends who are overweight. But I still make fun of them, and tell them to lose weight.
And they are not the ones who always diet, they have my same diet about... If I know someone who is seriously
trying to lose weight, i'll cheer them on, but if it's a fat person who complains about being fat, without doing anything...
I really hate that.

I wouldn't date a fat person either. It seems weird to date a girl that's "bigger" then me.
And I just don't find that attractive. If a girl isn't skinny I probably wouldn't date her.
I'd say... anyone size 4 and above is out.

FAT PEOPLE ARE JOLLY

The media should stop portraying fat as "big and beautiful". Fat is fat, and moreover, it's unhealthy. And no, it's not your genes, it's those burgers you keep shoving down your fat face.

Amen! I mean if you want to have conficence in yourself that's fine. But at 5'2" 200pound woman walking down the street,
in skinny jeans and a halter, with her fat hanging over everywhere... not so beautiful.Cellulite = Not Beautiful. Monique is a good example of a big woman who wears her clothes well. Everything is slimming, and she acually stays in shape even though she's big, so she's not jiggly.

[joogrlpekaun]

The whole 'can they help it?' debate is one that just makes no sence genetically. Look at Americans two generations ago and look at them now. Something's sure changed but it's not their natural bodies. If fat Americans went back to the lands of their ancestors they sure wouldn't find that many overweight people. Why? Because it's not genetic - it's lifestyle.

Every autumn I go to a large conference in Seoul, attended by about 1,200 people. Of the attendees, it's more or less 49% whites, 49% Asians, and maybe 2% other. Seeing white-Asian-white-Asian-white-white-Asian-Asian sitting in a row I'm suddenly reminded of how bloody fat white people have got. At the conference some of the white people can't even fit into the desks (designed for Sookmyung Women's University students) and have to sit at a chair or stand at the back. Seriously, it's like half of all westerners have ceased being anatomically normal anymore.

I'm sure there are a huge number of reasons behind this, and no doubt other parts of the world are quickly catching up, but I'm positive lifestyle choice is the biggest factor. American PC idiots and Christians preach about why others shouldn't smoke and drink while shovelling deep-fried fast food into mouths after a day of avoiding any physical strain whatsoever. I'm sure that just eating non-processed foods and having to walk 30 minutes to work or school every day would lower the average weight by a good ten pounds in a matter of months.

Sure, it is lifestyle and diet in the vast majority of cases. I would argue with you that for a lot of people they are never going to be thin due to genetics, like myself, but that doesn't mean we can't help becoming downright fat if we work hard at it. You know what would honestly help, if you want to compare people in the U.S. and Canada to people in a lot of Europe? Our culture here is totally workaholic in an exhausting way and has been for some time now, but it doesn't involve a lot of physical exertion for most people anymore like it did in the past.

Not everyone's life is like this, but a lot of people have the same experience as my parents: by the time they finish working ten hours a day or more (even just the more usual eight is tiring) and taking care of household chores and taking care of kids, they're already exhausted, and exercising now has become its own sort of work that you have to cram into your day somehow by either staying up later than you want to finish everything after exercising or getting up earlier than you want. Some people, like one of my co-workers, manage to play team sports while working, so they get lots of exercise and have fun doing it, but she can only even do it by working only part-time and leaving work often to play matches or practice. She only works about 25 hours a week. If you suggested joining any more than a weekend league for anything to most Americans, they'd look at you like "With what spare time?" Weekend leagues are nice, but not enough to keep a person with a slow metabolism slim. Some people actually enjoy just going to the gym and working out for exercise's own sake or jogging around the neighborhood, but for a lot of people, it's just one more thing to do and it's their last priority after work, bills, chores, and kids. It's even worse for my parents now that they're two divorced single parents, because there's no one else to take care of my younger brother or other chores so they have more time to exercise; I think that type of situation is quite common.

I don't remember who it was, but one European once told me that they say Europeans work to live while Americans live to work. I still remember how absolutely horrified one of my family's exchange students from Austria was when he saw how late I got home from school (5 PM normally or later if I had some sort of after-school activity) and how much homework I had. In contrast, he had a maximum of two hours of homework even in his third year of an academic high school, got home earlier, and had plenty of time to go play sports casually with his friends, who weren't all running driving around trying to rack up formal extracurricular activities like my friends and I were in high school. For him, exercising was easy to fit into the day, informal, and fun. For me it was something I had to cram into my day forcefully and sometimes cut out entirely, formal, and just another type of work I had to do. His parents were also consistently done with work by the end of normal business hours and never took work home to finish, and they would take leisurely bicycle rides.

I wouldn't wonder that suburbinazation has played a part, too, because so many Americans and Canadians now live in suburbs where walking to places like the grocery store or work is neither routine nor often even practical. I believe suburbanization has not been as widespread in Europe and much of the world? It's not even a very old phenomenon here in North America. I definitely enjoy and take full advantage of living in the city when I'm at school in Toronto because I have no car here and can walk everywhere without the problems that suburbs can present. Back in high school I did walk 30 minutes to catch the bus to school and 30 minutes home after, plus about an hour of walking my dog, but it was nowhere near enough for me to maintain a good weight.

P.S. Isn't it interesting that even after Australia was recently named the country with the highest obesity rate among adults, it's still always Americans who are held up as the fattest people in the world? Not that we're not still way fatter than we should be, but I've never actually seen or heard anyone use "Australians" in the same sentence as a virtual synonym for "fat lazy idiots" the way "Americans" often is. Then again, I spend eight months of the year in Canada and Canadians seem to love being experts on all things American and ridiculing American culture, never mind that Canadians and Americans are more similar than they are different and many of them have never actually been to the States (Buffalo shopping trips don't count!). I love this place, but I've heard some weird things that people think about life in the USA. It must be even worse working in Korea where some of the worst of many English-speaking countries go to teach English when they don't know what the hell else to do with themselves. (Obviously not all, but I've heard that the Americans teaching English in Korea are not a flattering cross-section of Americans as a whole.)

[shotamerican]

to respond to the OP, i have no problem with fat people whatsoever, except when they complain about being fat and then gorge a bunch of bad food into their mouths continuously.

i like people who are happy with the way they are! happy fat people are awesome. hehe!
love yourself! as long as you are comfortable and it's the lifestyle you prefer, you know?
and then if you don't, if you're doing something about it, then it's all good.
generally weight doesn't make me feel awkward untill the other person brings it up first (i'm a pretty slim person). for example, 'gosh you're so skinny! i could never be like that, *pout*'

errrrrr?


the only type of people i judge are unsanitary people. that is all.
ugh. uuuugggghhh.

[baboxxyun]

personally i dont have any problems with people being obese. some of my best friends are obese, and i love them xD
but i do agree that the vast majority of them (in the united states at least) are obese because of STUPID choices. fast food + no activity guarantees obesity.
its really not that hard to spare 30 minutes for a jog, or switch out fast food/ fattening foods for healthier alternatives. but in cases where work consumes someone's life, that can be understood.

[mekka]

Okay, being fat has its draw back, plus being too skinny, there is plus and minuses in both, think of heath reasons, such as thyroid problem, diabetis, etc, on the thin side poor eating habits you hair looks dry and like straw, your skin is palor and grey, your teeth ruts, and ulcers from eating the wrong foods and poorly. Plus, the toilet bowl dance that all of us do to maintain a rail stick figure, so who are we to criticize anyone for their weight? Asians are the worst, I can lament on things they should do before criticizing anyone but i will refrain. Alot of people love being plump or curvy those who love looking anorecise (sp) that's your choice, so before you open your trap think how the person you are about to hurt may feel.

[Pogichinoy]

I'm almost always walking around with my eyes staring at the ground, hoping that I'm invisible (but probably failing at it).

There is no need for this, you don't have to hide.

[BAZINGA!]

hahaha that made me

LOL. Can't deny a guy with a sexy body.