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#1 User is offline   unholydaemon 

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 08:56 PM

So I recently stumbled upon this sleeping schedule, that will let you survive off of TWO hours of sleep / day. Yeah, I know crazy, but I read into it and it actually made sense. So when you sleep, in the 6-9 hours you normally get, 1.5 hours is REM sleep which is the sleep that refreshes your body. REM sleep is what you need, it's where you dream and also where you 'recover' your body for the next day in a sense.

What Uberman does is it forces you to take control of REM and get rid of the excess sleep. You do this by forcing yourself to stay awake for TEN days. By doing so, you force your body to follow you schedule. So after ten days, you'll be in deep need of sleep, and the moment you sleep, you'll hit REM sleep right away since your body has to take advantage of the times you actually are asleep. So you sleep and hit REM right away, 30 mins later, you HAVE to wake up. Every 4 hours you take a 30 minute nap. That's a total of 2 hours of REM sleep/day. You wake up remembering exactly how your dream was, which many people said was very intense and vivid, as well as feeling extremely refreshed during the next 4 hours.

There's a lot of blogs of people who did it online, and the most famous being a person who did for a year and had no health drawbacks. Some drawbacks other then health: messes up your daily schedule, must sleep every 4 hours or your body will crash, you become a lot hungrier, and it's permanent...sort of. The guy who did it for a year switched back to regular 8 hours of sleep/day, but once he slept, he'd wake up 30 mins refreshed and fell asleep again to get into his regular 8 hours.

Anyways, I hope this in the right section. Found it pretty interesting, might try it during winter break xD What do you guys think? Has anyone done this before?


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Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:32 PM

wow... that sounds intense, i'd never be able to stay up 10 days straight

but what's the point of doing this though? is there suppose to be some sort of health benefits related to this?
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (fionarhz @ Oct 22 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow... that sounds intense, i'd never be able to stay up 10 days straight

but what's the point of doing this though? is there suppose to be some sort of health benefits related to this?


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Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (fionarhz @ Oct 22 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow... that sounds intense, i'd never be able to stay up 10 days straight

but what's the point of doing this though? is there suppose to be some sort of health benefits related to this?


If anything, the net hours of sleep would be hell for you. You're missing like 80 hours of necessary sleep to get onto a schedule that reduces it even more.

When you reduce your REM and SWS sleep time, your body builds up more and more need for it, which explains the body skipping stages 1-4 to get into REM. However, if you're getting REM for 2 hours a day, what would you do about your SWS? It's 0 minutes of SWS. Both REM and SWS are involved in memory consolidation...

Although, it'd seem like a nice thing to try...the first 10 days...lol
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:20 PM

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Found it pretty interesting, might try it during winter break xD What do you guys think?

laugh.gif I bet you $50 you won't make it past 48 hours (straight i.e. no naps/dozing/microsleeps).
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:46 PM

Having to take a nap every 4 hours won't be very convenient for me lol.
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:58 PM

Nah, I wouldn't want to try this. 22 hours being awake everyday? I wouldn't know what to do with all that extra time. Maybe when I get a busier schedule.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 12:11 AM

I was going to try this but I found an easier one called the "Everyman" sleep schedule haha. It's less intense with three hours of core sleep and three/four 20-minute naps throughout the day. Also, I don't think this one requires you to stay awake for TEN DAYS hahaha

But I did hear that the adjustment period (first two weeks) is HELL.

I planned on starting during summer but I have no idea what happened, got lazy or something? (Although, I did have summer school.) Haha. Anyhow, it's a bit difficult trying to plan times to sleep with classes and all ): But, I really want to try this because I don't get a lot of sleep and I'm ALWAYS tired. Maybe during Christmas break when it won't matter if I'm tired at certain times haha

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 09:52 AM

QUOTE (cubecul @ Oct 23 2009, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If anything, the net hours of sleep would be hell for you. You're missing like 80 hours of necessary sleep to get onto a schedule that reduces it even more.

When you reduce your REM and SWS sleep time, your body builds up more and more need for it, which explains the body skipping stages 1-4 to get into REM. However, if you're getting REM for 2 hours a day, what would you do about your SWS? It's 0 minutes of SWS. Both REM and SWS are involved in memory consolidation...

Although, it'd seem like a nice thing to try...the first 10 days...lol


I dunno about SWS, but the guy did it for a year and reported nothing wrong.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 10:10 AM

I'm not a doctor but that doesn't seem like a good idea...
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 02:56 PM

^ Yeah missing out on sleep messes you up a bit.

QUOTE (unholydaemon @ Oct 24 2009, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guess you owe me $50 tongue.gif I've done 72 straight

That's why it's a fair bet for you... but I don't owe you yet - you can't have slept 72 hours between yesterday and today!

I've worked in a sleep investigation lab at uni for three years so I know a fair amount about sleep medicine and related research. Between around 16 and 48 hours of sleep depriviation, a normal person under normal conditions will have a series of microsleeps that they won't remember. They actually don't believe they've had any microsleeps, only a sense of time passing more quickly than usual.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:11 PM

I've tried 72 hours and I felt like a zombie.

I afraid to try that. I'll get badass zits.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:34 PM

Er I won't try this.
I'll fall asleep in class from trying to stay awake 10 days..
And school last for about 6-7 hours so I can't fall asleep every 4 hours.
I don't want to be hungrier and I don't need a messed up schedule lol..
It's kind of funny, I was learning about sleeping in health class yesterday xD
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:44 PM

Is this not similar to power napping?

I still prefer lying in my comfy bed for 5~6 hours, so this really isn't an option and seeing as a school day lasts 6 hours 30 mins and I'm not allowed to sleep during class. Yea this is pretty much failure at it's best for me tongue.gif
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (unholydaemon @ Oct 22 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What Uberman does is it forces you to take control of REM and get rid of the excess sleep. You do this by forcing yourself to stay awake for TEN days. By doing so, you force your body to follow you schedule. So after ten days, you'll be in deep need of sleep, and the moment you sleep, you'll hit REM sleep right away since your body has to take advantage of the times you actually are asleep.


Did you even read what you 'stumbled upon'?

If you force yourself to stay awake for about 100 hours, you'll start getting hallucinations, 10 days is enough to kill a lot of people, if not give them negative long term health effects.

If you wiki it or anything, it tells you to sleep 2 hours a day for 10 days, not stay awake.


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Posted 23 October 2009 - 07:20 PM

It seems like it makes sense. But it'd be inconvenient for me. I dont think I'm willing to give up lunch so I can take a nap. Also, it takes me about half an hour to fall asleep. Naps just don't work out for me.

My friend has a weird sleep schedule too. I don't remember it exactly, but it's something like this:
7:00 am - 7:30 am Prepares for school
7:30 am - 4:00 pm School
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm Homework
5:00 pm - 8:00 pm Takes a nap
8:00 pm - 9:30 pm Dinner
9:30 pm - 4:00 am Homework
4:00 am - 7:00 am Sleep

I've never tried it, nor do I ever plan to.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 10:22 PM

^my sleep schedule is something like your friends

i feel like mini cooper sometimes but it gets me through heh and i try to get in some exercise here and there
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 11:20 PM

make sense? people can make sense out of anything just by including word like "scientific", "research" and "proven"..

if your life is busy to the point where you can only sleep for 2 hours, then there is something terribly wrong with it. i understand some people think sleeping is a waste of time but dam, give it a rest!


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Posted 07 November 2009 - 05:48 PM

:s thats abit extreme
we need slp for a reason~~
the bodi heals during slp..
i dont think much healing can be done in such a short amount of slp time..

n i duno how people stay awake for 10 days
2 days is hell for me let alone 10 days!
u possible cant function....

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 06:51 PM

too much work.
i can live with 4 hours of sleep.
i've gone 3 days without sleep/caffiene.
not the best idea. but yeah. lols.

and uh.. there would be drawbacks.
there's an experiment with a guy who stayed up for 11 days.
he started getting delusional and couldn't even get on the comptuer because he started to see fairies or something.


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