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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE(willenette @ Sep 18 2006, 09:52 PM) View Post

Thanks for sharing here the story of your encounter with him in the airport. Just wondering why is he there at the departure area, is he leaving for where? And I think this encounter is recent since it's mentioned that his hair is short & with strands of color blonde. I enjoy reading this kind of story, got to learn more about RAIN. Just wondering what music is he listening at that moment that made him dance just like that. I just can imagine he looks so cute doing that gesture and at the escalator, with many people can see him.


This encounter happened recently on Sept 15th when Bi was leaving for US from Seoul tongue.gif

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9.19【申江导报】韩国嘻哈教父朴震荣访谈
Rain就这样被冷酷调教

前言
在雪碧我型我SHOW比赛后台,抓到一张熟悉的面孔--刘维。高了,壮了,头发长了,也更帅了。
跟他开玩笑:你是不是又偷偷发育了一次?
他说:保证纯天然,没整容!
去年夺冠时那个黄毛小子,经过半年的韩国集训,还真披了一身明星味学成归来。
这次同来的,还有韩国老师,魔鬼教头朴震荣。
身为Rain的恩师兼经纪人,韩国嘻哈教父,朴老师一到,刘维马上毕恭毕敬地鞠躬敬礼。
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3年半,Rain像在少林寺苦刑。--Rain的眼神写满饥渴

《申》:我看过Rain出道前的照片,其貌不扬,您怎么会相中这么一个毛头小子?
朴:1999年,在韩国有一个唱片公司内部举办的、类似于我型我SHOW的选秀比赛,当时我是评委。在一群选得上,选不上,都无所谓的选手中间,我看到一个与众不同的男生,眼神里写满了饥渴,好像万一选不上,一生就要结束的样子。听说他的家境很贫困,妈妈已到糖尿病晚期,生活难以为继。没人相信他能成为歌手,因为他唱得实在太烂了!但是我对那双眼神印象太深刻了,我发现他虽然不会唱歌,但嗓音条件其实不差,舞蹈基础也好,好好调教,绝对能成功。
《申》:Rain也不敢相信,您会选他吧?
朴:他问我,我会红么?我说,你离成名还很遥远,所以一切从头开始。我带着他,开始了为期3年半,像在少林寺苦行一样得训练。
《申》:都说韩式造星很残酷,看来不假?
朴:(笑)没那么夸张啦。给你们学的,都是我自己编的教材。和Rain同期的,还有另外两批学员,包括GOD组合、朴志胤。平时我自己也有演出,所以不可能把所有时间耗在一个人身上。我一个星期给他们上3次课,每次2小时,其余时间,他们自学,然后交作业给我检查,不合格的重来。
《申》:具体学些什么呢?
朴:别的歌手,一上来就学技巧,但是我要让他们先认识自己的声音。Rain一直以为自己只能唱到高音mi,我就慢慢帮他调音,调到了高音la。有一次练唱,在他不知情的情况下,我慢慢把原调提了几个音,他居然能唱下来。唱完我告诉他,他几乎不敢相信。
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第一年,我没有表扬过他一次--Rain一路哭了4小时
《申》:在少林寺里,Rain是刻苦的学生么?
朴:他至今都是最认真的,从来不偷懒。但是第一年,我没有表扬过他一次。
《申》:故意的吧?
朴:是的,我常常表扬别的男孩子,唯独对他永远是批评。我就是要看看他的承受力到底有多强?其实我心里想的是,他一定会成功的。那时候,Rain一直觉得,朴震荣不喜欢我!甚至在1年半左右,他灰心丧气得都要放弃了。我问他为什么要走?他说自己实力不够。我脸一板,说,你到那边去,给我跪下!我还没放弃你,你凭什么放弃自己?
《申》:为什么采用如此冷酷教学法?
朴:我始终相信,一个艺人真正的激情,不经过磨难,是爆发不出来的。
《申》:Rain被您训哭过么?
朴:让我想想......记得有两次吧。一次是他的生日,正好离他的首次登台不远。我告诉他们,训练期间,忘记自己的生日吧,不要去想这些东西。他的同伴悄悄给他办了生日会,想给他个惊喜,就打电话叫他去。他想顶多1个小时就回来,结果偏偏出门时被我抓住。到时候在台上出丑,看你还过什么生日!我训了他一顿,毕竟还是小孩子,心里想着蛋糕,肯定很委屈,结果痛哭流涕;还有一次,是培训快结束时,已经积累了一些舞台经验,而且陆续有歌迷给他写信。我感觉这小子开始打飘了。有一次从首尔到其他地方演出,有差不多5小时的车程,他作业没完成,我当着一车人的面批评他。他积蓄已久的愤怒一下子爆发了。我当作没看见,假装睡觉。而他呢,一路哭过去,大概哭了4个小时。
《申》:您什么时候觉得,是时候了,放心让他登台了?
朴:2002年有一次演出,在后台,他说,让我自己试试看吧。我问他,真的不需要我帮忙?真的可以?他点点头。结果他征服了全场。那一刻,我很自豪。
《申》:您觉得Rain的最大魅力是什么?
朴:有时是值得信赖的男子汉,有时又是不懂事的大男孩。
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在刘维的眼神里,我看到了当年Rain的影子。--在中国打造新的Rain
《申》:刘维算是您的第一个中国作品?
朴:的确,但遗憾的是,时间太短,只有半年不到。我还记得第一次碰面,在刘维的眼神里,我看到了当年Rain的影子,好像在说,请千万接受我。他的热情感到了我,我决定塑造他,只要他能忍受孤独、苦难和眼泪。
《申》:刘维一直说自己要成为中国的Rain,您觉得可能么?
朴:留在我身边3年半吧!
《申》:除了刘维,您还有其他中国造星计划么?
朴:我一直相信,下一位世界巨星,一定诞生在中国。我的造星计划分三步走,第一阶段,我自己要在美国成为一名成功的作曲人,我在美国生活了2年多,已经制作了3张专辑,打入Billboard前十。第二阶段,我要找到既会中文,又会英文的歌手,因为中国。美国是最大的音乐市场。为什么李玫没有成功?只有亚洲人给他做音乐,才是出路。你用美国人的音乐,去攻打美国市场,美式的包装、造型,还不是淹没在一堆美国歌手中间?最后一步,当然就是中国歌手,打到美国去。


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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE(suwan @ Sep 18 2006, 02:30 PM) View Post

Hey I live in Montreal too !!!!! tongue.gif But I don't mind going to LV to see him <33 I'm crazy indeed. biggrin.gif
biggrin.gif I'm Xuan (pronounce like 'Suwan') So it's pretty much the same thing. So I'll come very early to Caesars Palace, then I'll wait for you with a big cardboard that will say : "Suwan is looking for Tiffany !" phew.gif blush.gif haha. oukie ?

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we'll decide on stuff after we buy the tickets i guess. HEEH.

omgod. that girl who saw him at the airport. HAHA he started dancing on the escalator?! Cutieee (:


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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:33 PM

【RAIN】9.19【申江导报】韩国嘻哈教父朴震荣访谈
Rain就这样被冷酷调教

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3年半,Rain像在少林寺苦刑。--Rain的眼神写满饥渴

《申》:我看过Rain出道前的照片,其貌不扬,您怎么会相中这么一个毛头小子?
朴:1999年,在韩国有一个唱片公司内部举办的、类似于我型我SHOW的选秀比赛,当时我是评委。在一群选得上,选不上,都无所谓的选手中间,我看到一个与众不同的男生,眼神里写满了饥渴,好像万一选不上,一生就要结束的样子。听说他的家境很贫困,妈妈已到糖尿病晚期,生活难以为继。没人相信他能成为歌手,因为他唱得实在太烂了!但是我对那双眼神印象太深刻了,我发现他虽然不会唱歌,但嗓音条件其实不差,舞蹈基础也好,好好调教,绝对能成功。
《申》:Rain也不敢相信,您会选他吧?
朴:他问我,我会红么?我说,你离成名还很遥远,所以一切从头开始。我带着他,开始了为期3年半,像在少林寺苦行一样得训练。
《申》:都说韩式造星很残酷,看来不假?
朴:(笑)没那么夸张啦。给你们学的,都是我自己编的教材。和Rain同期的,还有另外两批学员,包括GOD组合、朴志胤。平时我自己也有演出,所以不可能把所有时间耗在一个人身上。我一个星期给他们上3次课,每次2小时,其余时间,他们自学,然后交作业给我检查,不合格的重来。
《申》:具体学些什么呢?
朴:别的歌手,一上来就学技巧,但是我要让他们先认识自己的声音。Rain一直以为自己只能唱到高音mi,我就慢慢帮他调音,调到了高音la。有一次练唱,在他不知情的情况下,我慢慢把原调提了几个音,他居然能唱下来。唱完我告诉他,他几乎不敢相信。
===============================

第一年,我没有表扬过他一次--Rain一路哭了4小时
《申》:在少林寺里,Rain是刻苦的学生么?
朴:他至今都是最认真的,从来不偷懒。但是第一年,我没有表扬过他一次。
《申》:故意的吧?
朴:是的,我常常表扬别的男孩子,唯独对他永远是批评。我就是要看看他的承受力到底有多强?其实我心里想的是,他一定会成功的。那时候,Rain一直觉得,朴震荣不喜欢我!甚至在1年半左右,他灰心丧气得都要放弃了。我问他为什么要走?他说自己实力不够。我脸一板,说,你到那边去,给我跪下!我还没放弃你,你凭什么放弃自己?
《申》:为什么采用如此冷酷教学法?
朴:我始终相信,一个艺人真正的激情,不经过磨难,是爆发不出来的。
《申》:Rain被您训哭过么?
朴:让我想想......记得有两次吧。一次是他的生日,正好离他的首次登台不远。我告诉他们,训练期间,忘记自己的生日吧,不要去想这些东西。他的同伴悄悄给他办了生日会,想给他个惊喜,就打电话叫他去。他想顶多1个小时就回来,结果偏偏出门时被我抓住。到时候在台上出丑,看你还过什么生日!我训了他一顿,毕竟还是小孩子,心里想着蛋糕,肯定很委屈,结果痛哭流涕;还有一次,是培训快结束时,已经积累了一些舞台经验,而且陆续有歌迷给他写信。我感觉这小子开始打飘了。有一次从首尔到其他地方演出,有差不多5小时的车程,他作业没完成,我当着一车人的面批评他。他积蓄已久的愤怒一下子爆发了。我当作没看见,假装睡觉。而他呢,一路哭过去,大概哭了4个小时。
《申》:您什么时候觉得,是时候了,放心让他登台了?
朴:2002年有一次演出,在后台,他说,让我自己试试看吧。我问他,真的不需要我帮忙?真的可以?他点点头。结果他征服了全场。那一刻,我很自豪。
《申》:您觉得Rain的最大魅力是什么?
朴:有时是值得信赖的男子汉,有时又是不懂事的大男孩。
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I only quoted and translated the part with Rain...I guess thats what u guys are interested in rite tongue.gif

Original post : rainsh.com
From : Baidu Rain
Posted in Baidu Rain by : nicole506 2006-9-19 10:12

[Rain] 9.19 [Shen Jiang News] Korea ""Hip Hop Priest" Park Jin Young Interview

Rain was "brutally" trained

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"For 3.5 years, Rain was like being tortured in Shaolin Temple" -- Rain's eyes were filled with "hunger"

Shen : I've seen Rain's pics before his debut, his looks don't stand out, why did you pick out such a rookie at that time?

Park : In the year 1999, a records company in Korea held a talent competition, similar to that of "My Style My Show". At that time, I was one of the judges. In a group of "possibilities - can or cannot be chosen" competitors, I saw this unique boy, his eyes were filled with "hunger", like should he not be chosen, his whole life is going to end. I heard that his family is very poor, his mother is in a critical stage due to diabetes, life is hard to substain. No one believes that he can be a singer, because he sang real badly! But at that time, I was struck by the expression in his eyes, it left such a deep impression. I found that although he didn't know how to sing, his vocals aren't bad, his dance foundation is good too. With proper training, he will definitely be successful.

Shen : Rain himself couldn't believe that you will choose him right?

Park : He asked me, "Will I be famous?". I said, "You still have a long way to go before reaching fame, so you have to start from the beginning." I lead him, the training lasted 3 and a half years. He was trained brutally like being trained in the Shaolin Temple.

Shen : I heard that Korean stars' were cruelly trained, it seems true then?

Park : (laughing) Not that exaggerating. I designed all the teaching materials that is to be learned. In the same batch as Rain, there were two other groups of students, including GOD, Park Zhi Yin. Normally, I have my own perfomances, so I cannot spend all my time on one person. I gave them lessons 3 times a week, 2 hours per lesson. For the rest of the time, they have to learn on their own, then hand in the homework for me to check. If you don't pass, you have to re-do.

Shen : On the whole, what do they learn?

Park : For the other singers, they start with learning singing techniques. But I wanted them to know their own voices first. Rain always thought he can only reach "mi" as his highest pitch. So, slowly, I helped him to pitch his tone, to reach the high note "la". During one training session, without his knowledge, I slowly raised the original pitch by a few keys, and he actually reached them. After he finished singing, I told him what happened, he could hardly believed it.
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"During the first year, I did not once praise him" -- Rain cried for 4 hours.

Shen : In "Shaolin Temple", Rain is the most hardworking student?

Park : Until now, he is still the most hardworking student, he never slackens down. But in the first year, I did not once praise him.

Shen : U did it deliberately?

Park : Yes, I always praised the others, only him, I constantly criticised. I just wanted to see how much his endurance level is. Actually, in my heart, I knew he would succeed. At that time, Rain was thinking, "Park Jin Young doesn't like me!". In actual fact, he comtemplated giving up after about one and a half years. He was that disheartened. I asked him for the reason for leaving. He told me he felt that he does not have what it takes to be successful. I told him sternly, "Go over there and kneel down! I have not gave up on you, how dare you give up on yourself?"

Shen : Why did u use such "cruel training methods"?

Park : I always believe, an artiste's real passion, without tough training, will not be able to be fully released.

Shen : Did Rain ever cried due to your tough training?

Park : Let me recall...I remember there were 2 times. Once was on his birthday, which was also not far from his debut performance. I told him, during the training period, forget about your birthday, don't think of such things. He friends had secretly planned a birthday party for him, thinking of giving him a surprise, and called him out. He was thinking of just going off for an hour, but I caught him on his way out! "If you disgrace yourself on stage, see whether you still want to celebrate your birthday!". I gave him a dressing down, after all, he was still a kid, still yearned of birthday cake and all that. He must have felt much grievance, for he started crying sadly. Another time, was after training. He had some stage experiences, even received some fan letters. I was thinking, this kid is started to take off. Once, on his way from Seoul to another performance location, about 5 hours of travelling time, as he did not complete his homework, I gave him a dressing down in front of everyone in the car. Those frustrations and grievances that he has pented up for so long erupted in one go. I pretended not to notice, pretended to sleep. And him...he cried all the way to the location, about 4 hours I think.

Shen : When did you decide, that its time that he is able to debut on stage?

Park : 2002, during one perfomance, at the backstage, he said, "Let me try." I asked him, "You really don't need my help? Really can do it?" He nodded. In the end, he took the stage down. At that moment, I was so proud.

Shen : What do you think was Rain's biggest attraction?

Park : Sometimes, he seems like a reliable man, sometimes like an ignorant boy.
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P.S.: Sorry for the poor translation...hope u guys understand it. and Sorry for any mistakes. blush.gif








 
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 08:09 PM

Thanks for the translation spymm, I strongly believe that those hard years of training did him good. He's outlook on his career is very different from other singers and his passion for work can be viewed through his projects.
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 08:21 PM

wow!!...what a hardtime he had gone through before his debut... ohmy.gif

but everything have being paid off now...

WELL DONE BI!!

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE(suwan @ Sep 19 2006, 06:28 AM) View Post

biggrin.gif Haha, I guess my name (Xuan) tells my country of origin blush.gif Yes I'm Vietnamese but I don't live in the US. I live in Canada, Montreal. rolleyes.gif Are you vietnamese too ? tongue.gif


^^,I think so sweatingbullets.gif I'm chinese but I live in Viet Nam rolleyes.gif So I'm VietNamese sweatingbullets.gif
And my VietNamese name is Ngoc blush.gif .Nice to meet you,Xuan laugh.gif
Thanks God for letting me have a chance to be:
A Gureum living in Rain's World,
A Goguma living in YongSeo's Go-Chun.

Thanks 정지훈 for letting me be able to meet such many great friends.Clouds always be with Rain
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 09:03 PM

do you guys know what they'll sell at the concert in Las Vegas? (:
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE(PaNin @ Sep 17 2006, 09:24 PM) View Post

dear stena

This Feb, many ppl from Montreal visited Bkk for Bi's Rainyday concert.
Why don't U try join just one, or U have to do a hard work, making a big fanclub there ... then Bi will visit Montreal so soon.



What's is bkk??? I didn't go to the rainyday concert..why?....bcause..I didn't watch sangdoo yet( its the drama which makes me crazy about him )

oh..HI Suwan and Xiaoxiaoli! nice to know you are from Mtl and Ottawa. But there's not a lot of people from Montreal who are addicted to Rain (paying over 200$ to see his concert and go all the way to LV)
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 09:33 PM

can i ask why he went to the us last sept 15? is it to prepare for his concert in december?
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE(djoching @ Sep 19 2006, 12:33 AM) View Post

can i ask why he went to the us last sept 15? is it to prepare for his concert in december?

Rain went to US on Sept 15 to meet the director of the world concert tour..he will go
back to seoul on Sept 26-28th..
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 11:22 PM

^ yep. he's currently in LA right now and he's making his new music video! happy.gif
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 12:09 AM

^ do you know where in LA? biggrin.gif
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 01:28 AM

OMG I finally received eternal rain
man do I love that cd already, it is hot!

and I love the back of the T-shirt "Eternally Yours" blush.gif
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 03:30 AM

QUOTE(LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2006, 07:28 PM) View Post

OMG I finally received eternal rain
man do I love that cd already, it is hot!

and I love the back of the T-shirt "Eternally Yours" blush.gif


wow, lucky you! I want!! xD. Could you take some photos of what it looks like please? biggrin.gif!
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 03:56 AM

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 04:25 AM

Rain Sets Up Website for World Concert Tour
18th Sep 06, Chosun Sports
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Singer Rain is about to kick off his world concert tour, and has set up a website especially for it. He is the first singer in Korea to use a special website for his concert.

Setting up a special website for concert tours is a marketing gimmick commonly employed by top overseas singers like Madonna, US, The Rolling Stones. This is a testimonial that Rain's concert tour time is in a different league from that of the other Korean singers.

Look out for exclusive concert introduction, schedules, news behind-the scene and Rain's image cut on Rain's special concert website (www.rainworldtour.com). In addition, there are also detailed information on his first showcase performance before his world concert tour.

According to sources, this one-hour showcase preview will showcase the core concept of his world concert tour as well as the new songs found in his fourth Korean album, and has garnered much interest outside Korea.

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According to Star M, the special inverted "S" sign on his concert is derived from Rune words. In Rune words, "R" is also pronounced as "Raido", which represents the challenge, improvement and venture into an unknown world. This is exactly what Rain is feeling now, as he prepares for his biggest concert tour yet.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 06:06 AM

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(Rayndrop @ Sep 19 2006, 06:25 AM) View Post

Rain Sets Up Website for World Concert Tour
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According to Star M, the special inverted "S" sign on his concert is derived from Rune words. In Rune words, "R" is also pronounced as "Raido", which represents the challenge, improvement and venture into an unknown world. This is exactly what Rain is feeling now, as he prepares for his biggest concert tour yet.

Geez i only found and remember this "Rune" thing by playing Diablo ii & Warcraft. sweatingbullets.gif
Thank's for translating.
I wonder if Star M initiated that,like the "Dinner Package thing For BILLIONAIRES". laugh.gif

WoW w00t.gif Lee nayoung and Bi together.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 04:42 PM

KhanaKham, I always call your full name in case something is wrong..then read your post,
I think I did the right thing tongue.gif

QUOTE(nhinhanh00 @ Sep 19 2006, 03:10 PM) View Post

hello everyone,
I kept on reading about Bi was dancing on escalator or something like that, but I couldn't find the link to dl that clip. Would someone please post it again or send a link for me. I really loved to see it. thank you very much....
I am not complaining, but Bi's concert ticket in Vegas is really expensive. I meant they have to make money and paid for other stuff too. I guess only rich people could be his fans. Too bad for me....


I have the same thought too, if VIP ticket is 288$, then only rich people could be his fans,
and the concerts would shut most fans out of the door... sweatingbullets.gif
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 05:02 PM

I just bot the Eternal Rain cd and it comes with a plastic folder with two imprinted photos of Bi. I love the one where he was wearing a denim vest! Does someone have that photo that I can dl? I don't recall seeing this before but I'm sure it is somewhere in this treasure chest. Thanks! biggrin.gif
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