[Asianspirit]

Why are you so nitpicky? I bet there are hundreds of artists that lipsync parts or the entire song

whether i am nitpicky or not thats how i felt towards seeya the artist that i have supported and respected from the beginning because of their clean image and singing live, if they have debutted with sexy image, slutty dancing and lipsync i dun even want to listen to them or be their fan and supported them by buying their cd....yes there are hundreds of artist who lipsync and thats what sets them apart from true singers where when you are singers you are expected to sing live and respect your profession as a singer...and personally i dun give crap to artist who lipsync and i am only fans to singers who REALLY SINGS when they are on stage.....

i am just voicing out my dissappointment in Seeya ....so whoever feel offended then its too bad..

[Chopstickx]

i really think the dancing was the reason they were lipsyncing. they put so much energy into it that i doubt they can sing and dance at the same time, plus im sure they have not practiced that and not ready for it. before someone bashes me on saying how many other artists sing live and dance, just take into account that when artists do that, they rarely sing the whole song live, they usually have the chorus being played and they just sing the "oohhh" parts that follow and of course the singing doesnt sound as nice when you are tired and dancing. but really i dont think they were ready to dance and sing (especially what they were dancing) and if they were to dance again, they could tone down the dancing and sing live too. but i think this was a one time thing, it sure looked like it with their dancing solos. so i think, i hope, that they return to showing off their awesome voices.

p.s. i noticed that when they sang their songs in the past, i sounded like they were lipsyncing only because when they sing it sounds so similar to or exactly like the song (im not saying that they did lipsync). if it was all live, then i have even more impressed that they are consistant and did not use any technology in the recording studio.

no i'm not trying to start a war or provoke you but when i read that part i had to comment. those "oohh parts" that you call them are what makes the song... if you pay attention to most songs it's when the singer shows off their vocals at the end with the last chorus. why would you wanna sing with the chorus? it'll just make the song bland. imo, the ending choruses of songs are what shows if someone can sing or not. look at yeonji's singing part at their kudu performances and tell me how different the song would be if yeonji was just singing along with the chorus and not doing the "oohhh" thing. or take out jinho's oohhhs of sg wannabe's songs.
and no it wasn't live this time...

[tomahn]

disapppointed? disappointed that they probably trained many years in order to debut. disappointed that their hard, long training probably included learning how to dance. disappointed that they want to be able to use the skills that they have learned over the past years. the fact that you're a "fan" who cannot support a musical group in the choices that they make disappoints me. if you actually listened to their whole ablum you would know that they have ballads along with some more upbeat songs. they are simply trying perform the different songs on their album.

we all know they can sing. now we know they can dance. we should be appreciative in a group that can do both.

Boram and Haha should be the next best couple on x-man. it would be great.

[KCFan]

i would so rather see them standing in one spot singing their heart out and seeing their passion when they sing. we have other groups to look at for dancing ._. ...

I completely agree with that. There's an American artist I truly admire because she always sings live (even when she's sick), and the focal point of her performances is always her voice.

i dunno, i think you guys are being too hard on them. everyone makes mistakes, so lets give them the benefit of the doubt. i say lets wait until their next performances and see if they make the same mistake, then it will definitely be a problem. maybe they didnt sing live because one of their throats was sore or some problem, or it was inki gayo, or they had to dance and a lot of people lip sync because they have to dance. i dunno, we'll see how they do later.

i really think the dancing was the reason they were lipsyncing.

Like I said before, I love SeeYa, and this is not going to make me like them any less. I don't think that the backlash is against SeeYa as a group (at least I hope that it's not). Personally, I always try to remember that singers are real people, and I highly doubt that Yeon-ji, Gyu Ri, and Bo Ram have completely changed personalities from the people whom we came to respect and become fans of. I think what people are upset at is the management—for doing what we feel is a stunt, "gimmicky" and untrue to SeeYa's image and to the essence of the group. I understand that people say it's difficult to sing and dance at the same time, but my take on it has always been that if you're a singer, singing is the most important aspect of the performance. Singers don't need to be able to dance, and SeeYa has been successful and popular without having to before.

p.s. i noticed that when they sang their songs in the past, i sounded like they were lipsyncing only because when they sing it sounds so similar to or exactly like the song (im not saying that they did lipsync). if it was all live, then i have even more impressed that they are consistant and did not use any technology in the recording studio.

SeeYa always sang live in the past. That's one of the reasons why I respect them; they're so consistently good live. If you compare the performances, you can notice slight differences in the singing of all of them, and often in live performances, the assignment of parts is different. They try to make the parts more "equal" in their live performances than in the studio, so sometimes the girl who is singing a part of the song live is not the same one who sang it in the studio version.

yes there are hundreds of artist who lipsync and thats what sets them apart from true singers where when you are singers you are expected to sing live and respect your profession as a singer... i am only fans to singers who REALLY SINGS when they are on stage.....

I agree. Of course other people lipsync, but I honestly think SeeYa's too talented to do that.

I know that maybe they were "trying something new," but SeeYa sang "Shoes" for weeks on end (and their other songs) in the original fashion, and they've only been singing "Crazy Love Song" for two weeks before deciding to change it up. The song is gorgeous the way it is originally.

Speaking for myself, I will continue to support SeeYa. The SeeYa girls are people first and artists second, and I'm not going to turn my backs on them for one incident. I still think it's a misstep, though, and I hope that SeeYa returns to what they were doing previously, but I don't fault them for this performance. I wouldn't be surprised if this performance eventually faded away from memory. To be honest, what bothers me is not the performance itself but the intangible implications of it. What I really want is for the SeeYa girls to be true to themselves, and I don't feel that this performance was. I may be wrong; maybe they all secretly love dancing too or something, but deep down, I don't really think so.

[Chopstickx]

^i like how you worded your opinion KCFan...

disapppointed? disappointed that they probably trained many years in order to debut. disappointed that their hard, long training probably included learning how to dance. disappointed that they want to be able to use the skills that they have learned over the past years. the fact that you're a "fan" who cannot support a musical group in the choices that they make disappoints me. if you actually listened to their whole ablum you would know that they have ballads along with some more upbeat songs. they are simply trying perform the different songs on their album.

then does being a "fan" mean not having an opinion of your own? even if you disagree with something they do, do you still make good comments? please remember that this is an entertainment world, fans and idols are not family members. and i hope i'm not offending anyone when i say that...i'll reword it if it does. nothing's wrong with disagreeing with something one of your favorite groups does every now and then.

[tomahn]

How can you be disappointed in a group simply because they performed one of their more upbeat songs. And what does being a family member have anything to do with disagreeing or agreeing with a person's actions? If anything, family members are more disappointed with an artists decisions than fans. If you're going to make an agrument, please make it valid.

You mention disagreeing with "one of your favorite groups" now and then is ok, and I agree with that. But if SeeYa was really one of your favorite groups, wouldn't you have listened to their album and realized that not all their songs are slow?

[ohmyshawty]

i just watch the most recent performance. i must say, wow can seeya dance. never knew that before. i'm sure lipsyncing wasnt their choice, but to do such a fast dance routine and also to sing like the way they sing, they sorta gotta have to lipsync. because their songs alone is already hard to sing, adding to the dance routine that they had, i dont really care if they lipsync on this performance. i think the reason why SG WannBe (their mentors) never lipsync, is becuz they never "dance". most of sg's songs are ballad, so there's no movement needed. however, seeya did a "remix" of the songs, dancing is unavoidable. i feel its unfair to compare seeya dance performance to sg wannabe ballad one. i think this performance just prove to all SeeYa fans that not only do these girls can sing extremely well, they can also dance really well. the girls are multi-talented. i agree w/ someone above that even former girls group w/ the like of S.E.S and FIN.K.L have lipsync before, but look at how famous they still are. i take back what i said before watching the performance. this wasnt a mistake at all, i think it just show what abilities SeeYa have. i support them no matter what they do. SEEYA FIGHTING!!!

[twothree]

i think my opinion of the dancing might have changed if the dancing wasn't, as Asianspirit put it, "slutty." Did you see how "black" the dancing was? haha. I was cracking up the second time i watched it and it reminded me of "Back That Thing Up." I think fans already knew that SeeYa can dance because...they danced when they debuted...this recent performance just shows that they can dance like a "black" person o.o as i said before, there wasn't even special about the dancing

[Chopstickx]

How can you be disappointed in a group simply because they performed one of their more upbeat songs. And what does being a family member have anything to do with disagreeing or agreeing with a person's actions? If anything, family members are more disappointed with an artists decisions than fans. If you're going to make an agrument, please make it valid.

You mention disagreeing with "one of your favorite groups" now and then is ok, and I agree with that. But if SeeYa was really one of your favorite groups, wouldn't you have listened to their album and realized that not all their songs are slow?

not from what i noticed. families usually support their artists, regardless decisions as you mentioned it. and i have listened to their whole album...more time times than i can count. but what's the tempo or beat of the song have to do with any of this?

and dude, why are you attacking me? all i said was that i would rather see them singing without dancing anyday, that i was disappointed, and that i respected them a lot for singing live and wanted them to stay like that. did any of that provoke you at all? i didn't say anything like 'omg they're sluts! they're not even good dancers! i hate them for this'. i'm not taking back my opinion of not really liking their action but if any of my words got you aggravated then i'm sry, i apologize. i didn't think the way i expressed my words would aggravate anyone. did saying i was disappointed really get you that mad? if so then i'm sry. if i knew people would get mad then i would've gotten prepared for the consequences. geez -_- now watch me get banned for all this, heh.

[smileyface(:]

why are you guys fighting over this? Yeah they lipsynched and they didn't in the past. Things happen, and it's not their choice so i don't know why you're all arguing and stuff=\
I know my favorite group lipsyched when they first debuted, but i still like them because they have beautiful voices ^__^
Just give them a break... let's see what happens next week like someone said

[cmank]

it was something new and fresh. i don't mind it when they lipsync as long as they don't lose they're vocal talents. its definately unexpected of to see them dance. i think they're great tho. the standing in one place and singing got a lil old for me. even jinho has his own "choreography" lol

[KCFan]

*tries to lighten the mood*

I was randomly browsing Google Images, and I found these older pictures of SeeYa (from an article dated from April). I scanned through the earlier part of the thread and didn't see these pictures, so enjoy! Sometimes it's nice to look at oldies anyway.





credits :: khan.co.kr

Bo Ram's hair is actually down in this one! I noticed that in the photoshoots posted earlier, her hair was almost always up, and when she performs, her hair is usually at least partially up/back. They're all so lovely! I particularly like these shots of Yeon-ji. She's so talented, but I think she's also very pretty.

[tomahn]

They probably thought that their fans would appreciate the fact that they are showcasing they many talents. Instead we labeled them as a "live only" group and are disappointed at the fact that they attempt to sing live while moving all around the stage.

You make it sound like lipsyncing was a crime. They didnt lipsync for their fans, they danced for them Let's not be so narrowminded as to think that their main focus was to lipsync and get away with it. Their main focus was probably to perform their choreography they best they could.

[Ella_Kwan]

Hey guys, a little off subject but please help me. thank you.
Does any1 kow where i can get Seeya lyrics?
Like any sites?
please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you soooo much!!!!!!!!!!

[stellabella]

try aheeyah.com

they've got everything.

[LiLKrAzYb0i]

no i'm not trying to start a war or provoke you but when i read that part i had to comment. those "oohh parts" that you call them are what makes the song... if you pay attention to most songs it's when the singer shows off their vocals at the end with the last chorus. why would you wanna sing with the chorus? it'll just make the song bland. imo, the ending choruses of songs are what shows if someone can sing or not. look at yeonji's singing part at their kudu performances and tell me how different the song would be if yeonji was just singing along with the chorus and not doing the "oohhh" thing. or take out jinho's oohhhs of sg wannabe's songs.
and no it wasn't live this time...

hehehe, i wasnt trying to say that the "oohh" part was a bad thing. i was simply trying to say that its much easier to sing the "oohh" parts and have the chorus played than to sing the chorus and have the "oohh" (or even a line repeat) part played. sorry if this post is confusing, its hard to explain what exactly im trying to say without grammatical errors and more confusion.

lets look on the bright side...even if the lipsyncing and dancing was a bad thing for their career, its a good thing for this thread. after their last performance, there has been so many posts on this thread in a matter of a few days...most ever in such a short time. maybe SeeYa got the attention they were hoping for in doing that performance...hehehe

[Ella_Kwan]

try aheeyah.com

they've got everything.

thank you very much!!!!! now i gotta find 2nb lyrics, anyone??? lol

[stellabella]

Finally found a link for the performance everyone is talking about.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tNphJnckciE

IMO i thought it was just a regular old performance, without the "live" aspect. The dancing was ehh, but for SeeYa it was like WHOA because I was so surprised....

Just, i guess, not a big deal to me.

[Crispy]

Sorry... posting a little late.

But here's my take on it...
It's not like they were trying to hide the fact that they were lipsynching.
They were performing to a remix (with modified voices and everything), so it was sort of an unspoken heads-up that it would be lip-synched.
They were just showcasing their dance abilities, which they only get to do to a certain extent with their other songs (hence the dance section in the middle).
I mean, they were trained in both singing AND dancing, so why can't they show off their dancing skills every once in a while?

Besides, it's not like they're never performing the original version of Crazy Love Song again... it was just for the remix.

[Chopstickx]

hehehe, i wasnt trying to say that the "oohh" part was a bad thing. i was simply trying to say that its much easier to sing the "oohh" parts and have the chorus played than to sing the chorus and have the "oohh" (or even a line repeat) part played. sorry if this post is confusing, its hard to explain what exactly im trying to say without grammatical errors and more confusion.

lets look on the bright side...even if the lipsyncing and dancing was a bad thing for their career, its a good thing for this thread. after their last performance, there has been so many posts on this thread in a matter of a few days...most ever in such a short time. maybe SeeYa got the attention they were hoping for in doing that performance...hehehe

no problem. and i thought about that too, how this thread stayed on the first page and got so many posts quickly. then again would we really want seeya's thread to be bumped over debates? =\ *coughjessicaho'sthread* but let's move on shall we? -puts on a smile-

*tries to lighten the mood*

I was randomly browsing Google Images, and I found these older pictures of SeeYa (from an article dated from April). I scanned through the earlier part of the thread and didn't see these pictures, so enjoy! Sometimes it's nice to look at oldies anyway.

http://img.khan.co.kr/lady/200604/_2_seeya1.jpg

http://img.khan.co.kr/lady/200604/_1_seeya2.jpg

credits :: khan.co.kr

Bo Ram's hair is actually down in this one! I noticed that in the photoshoots posted earlier, her hair was almost always up, and when she performs, her hair is usually at least partially up/back. They're all so lovely! I particularly like these shots of Yeon-ji. She's so talented, but I think she's also very pretty.

yes thank you. they look really nice in those pics. i like it when their hair is down, makes them look more "classy" haha. i think yeonji is pretty too. others might think she's the least best-looking but i think she's really pretty...though her hairstyle affects the way she looks a lot lol. she has a cute smile too (as seen on xman), she needs to go on variety shows so we can see her laugh and smile more haha. and i think boram looks prettier without the bangs.

*pretends like nothing happened*...